Speculation: Roster Building Thread: New Season Edition

[Synergy27]

This reminds me of apChem when I turned to the girl sitting next to me and asked “ What am I looking at?”.

We’re basically playing completely opposite to how we were playing last year at this same point in the season.

We were consistently getting caved in but scoring timely goals and getting crazy goaltending from Shesterkin.

This year we are caving the other team in, but the pucks are going into the net and our goaltending has been pretty bad.

It bodes well if you believe that “luck” evens out over the long term. Our luck never really evened out last year though, we kept getting lucky, so take whatever you want away from that.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

If we were to change our coach (not saying we should or we shouldn't) do you think a person like Torts would be good? Teach the team accountability, learn a real system etc.

I'm not sure this ''let the players run freely and work it all out'' is working.

Now that Shesty isn't playing like Hasek that is. And we can't expect him to be that good.

 

[IDvsEGO]

If we were to change our coach (not saying we should or we shouldn't) do you think a person like Torts would be good? Teach the team accountability, learn a real system etc.

I'm not sure this ''let the players run freely and work it all out'' is working.

Now that Shesty isn't playing like Hasek that is. And we can't expect him to be that good.

Tort would be a f***ing nightmare.
He’s hate Kakko, he’d absolutely run Laf out, and Kratsov would be on the first flight to Russia as soon as the rumors came out.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Tort would be a f***ing nightmare.
He’s hate Kakko, he’d absolutely run Laf out, and Kratsov would be on the first flight to Russia as soon as the rumors came out.

Not Torts, he's taken.

A coach like him. That teaches accountability and has a "system".

Tort would be a f***ing nightmare.
He’s hate Kakko, he’d absolutely run Laf out, and Kratsov would be on the first flight to Russia as soon as the rumors came out.

Kravtsov can f off haha

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Tort would be a f***ing nightmare.
He’s hate Kakko, he’d absolutely run Laf out, and Kratsov would be on the first flight to Russia as soon as the rumors came out.

I call bs.

Mehsoft maybe (and that's just trolling), but Laf and Kakko would have thrived under Torts.

 

[IDvsEGO]

I call bs.

Mehsoft maybe (and that's just trolling), but Laf and Kakko would have thrived under Torts.

Neither blocks shots. Laf throws big hits, but he also dangles the puck and holds on to it far too long for a torts system.

 

[Off Sides]

I guess the question are our eyes deceiving us or are these advances stats deceiving us?

Not sure either are, who on the Rangers is known to be able to score goals?

3 players, Zbad, Panarin, Kreider and most of them usually have around 30

To lesser extent Trocheck usually around 20, and Laff had 19

Other than them Goodrow had a career high of 13 last year. Kakko and maybe Chytil might eventually start to get more.

Lots of things in the goal scoring department went right last year, largely Kreider being able to beat his career norm by like 25-30 and the PP.

Blias, Carpenter, Reaves, Gauthier, Vesey, are not going to help much there.

As built the Rangers would probably be better off playing good 5on5 D than trying to score a lot, improve their PK or not take penalties, because they don't have the players to score a lot. They are 4th from last in the east in goals scored and I don't think that is really that far off.

 

[Avery16]

Tort would be a f***ing nightmare.
He’s hate Kakko, he’d absolutely run Laf out, and Kratsov would be on the first flight to Russia as soon as the rumors came out.

RIP Lindgren, we barely knew thee.

Premature retirements for Fox and Trouba too.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Neither blocks shots. Laf throws big hits, but he also dangles the puck and holds on to it far too long for a torts system.

They would have (learned) under Torts. lol

Idk about the leeway offensively, he didn't have a #1 and #2 ov pick to work with here. But I guess you're right, the six goalie system wouldn't have suited them well.

 

[MrAlmost]

Gallant teaches the same things Torts does. So did Quinn. This idea that Torts, or "Torts Style Coaches", are the only ones with "accountability" and "system" is silly. Torts is a bad coach. He hangs his players out and runs "his guys" into the ground. What is Philly showing us right now? How to score the 2nd least amount of goals in the league? They have a low goals against, but if we think the Rangers are going to average out based on numbers, then Philly will collapse. They get shelled every night. Probably worse than the Rangers last year.

Again, like last year when everyone was breaking down and saying Gallant doesn't play the right system, once we got actual personnel on the roster, we saw how fast and aggressive they played and it took them to the ECF.

Count me as someone that wants to turn some of our dead weight into some faster, more tenacious players. Blackwell, Kuraly, etc..

 

[Avery16]

Gallant teaches the same things Torts does. So did Quinn. This idea that Torts, or "Torts Style Coaches", are the only ones with "accountability" and "system" is silly. Torts is a bad coach. He hangs his players out and runs "his guys" into the ground. What is Philly showing us right now? How to score the 2nd least amount of goals in the league? They have a low goals against, but if we think the Rangers are going to average out based on numbers, then Philly will collapse. They get shelled every night. Probably worse than the Rangers last year.

Again, like last year when everyone was breaking down and saying Gallant doesn't play the right system, once we got actual personnel on the roster, we saw how fast and aggressive they played and it took them to the ECF.

Count me as someone that wants to turn some of our dead weight into some faster, more tenacious players. Blackwell, Kuraly, etc..

I'll never forget how quickly he would throw his players whether as individuals or as a group under the bus with the press. Really unprofessional and just gutless, embarrassing to watch as a fan. If it were up to Torts, Zuc would have never come back from Europe and Marchessault would still be in the AHL.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

If we were to change our coach (not saying we should or we shouldn't) do you think a person like Torts would be good? Teach the team accountability, learn a real system etc.

I'm not sure this ''let the players run freely and work it all out'' is working.

Now that Shesty isn't playing like Hasek that is. And we can't expect him to be that good.

Edit: read Trots instead of Torts.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Gallant teaches the same things Torts does. So did Quinn. This idea that Torts, or "Torts Style Coaches", are the only ones with "accountability" and "system" is silly. Torts is a bad coach. He hangs his players out and runs "his guys" into the ground. What is Philly showing us right now? How to score the 2nd least amount of goals in the league? They have a low goals against, but if we think the Rangers are going to average out based on numbers, then Philly will collapse. They get shelled every night. Probably worse than the Rangers last year.

Again, like last year when everyone was breaking down and saying Gallant doesn't play the right system, once we got actual personnel on the roster, we saw how fast and aggressive they played and it took them to the ECF.

Count me as someone that wants to turn some of our dead weight into some faster, more tenacious players. Blackwell, Kuraly, etc..

And then he coached the team to a loss in the ECF, after struggling to 7 game series to each one before that. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of his "system"

 

[IDvsEGO]

Edit: read Trots instead of Torts.

Trot until that one year in Washington was forever known as the guy who’d get you close, but never could win it.
Funny how that’s exactly what happened to the islanders too.
Dudes system works in the regular season, and then in the playoffs, if you can’t score because of the system, you don’t win.
Vegas was the perfect matchup for that because they fed into the system.

 

[pld459666]

My apologies if you guys are sick of getting bombarded with proposals for Laf and Kakko, but just out of curiosity what if anything would it take to snag one or if I’m being completely delusional both of them? Specifically from the Avs.

More than you are prepared to offer

 

[irishlaxburger2]

Tort would be a f***ing nightmare.
He’s hate Kakko, he’d absolutely run Laf out, and Kratsov would be on the first flight to Russia as soon as the rumors came out.

Kakko is defensively responsible and is hustling his butt off. He would love Kakko.

He would hate Panarin.

 

[Mandar]

If we were to change our coach (not saying we should or we shouldn't) do you think a person like Torts would be good? Teach the team accountability, learn a real system etc.

I'm not sure this ''let the players run freely and work it all out'' is working.

Now that Shesty isn't playing like Hasek that is. And we can't expect him to be that good.

There's always Iron Mike Keenan out there....

 

[Kords]

Kakko is defensively responsible and is hustling his butt off. He would love Kakko.

He would hate Panarin.

Torts coached him in Columbus. No clue how the relationship was but i'm sure some Blue Jacket fans might have some insight. Panarin's Ice time never took a hit though so there's that.

I agree he would love Kakko though and I think he would be a PERFECT coach for Laffy.

 

[CLW]

Kakko is defensively responsible and is hustling his butt off. He would love Kakko.

He would hate Panarin.

Panarin was hustling under CBJ Torts, those were the days. Tbf Panarin looks half the player now physically unfortunately.

 

[MrAlmost]

And then he coached the team to a loss in the ECF, after struggling to 7 game series to each one before that. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of his "system"

One could say he coached the team to 2 come-from-behind playoff series victories, while coming from behind in the games themselves, against 2 teams that everyone in the hockey world said were superior.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Kakko is defensively responsible and is hustling his butt off. He would love Kakko.

He would hate Panarin.

Lol what, he coached him (and called him the hardest working player in the league)

 

[TheBloodyNine]

One could say he coached the team to 2 come-from-behind playoff series victories, while coming from behind in the games themselves, against 2 teams that everyone in the hockey world said were superior.

Nobody said the Penguins were superior until they were down 3-1, but ok I'll give you Carolina. First series shouldn't have needed a 3-1 comeback and he blew a 2-0 series lead against Tampa with his personnel decisions. 2 out of the 3 series - not impressive.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

other than 4 forwards and 1 Dman the rest of the team is under 0.5 points per game. How long is this garbage going to continue? Embarrassing. total failure to develop top 10 draft picks into legit scorers.

 

[CLW]

One could say he coached the team to 2 come-from-behind playoff series victories, while coming from behind in the games themselves, against 2 teams that everyone in the hockey world said were superior.

The Rangers now find themselves in the other position. This team needs to learn to put away weaker opponents without giving them much of a chance.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Kakko is defensively responsible and is hustling his butt off. He would love Kakko.

He would hate Panarin.

Kakko is defensively responsible but also doesn't hit. He doesn't shy away from contact but he throws almost 0 body checks. Torts would hate him. He dislikes "soft" play.