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SA16 said:
The Rangers had one forward in the top 50 in 5v5 TOI/game in the league and two in the top hundred. I don't know why this narrative persists.

If you want to look at all strengths they had two in the top 50 and four in the top 150.

Colorado's top line ranked 6,9,17 in 5v5 TOI/game. How come they didn't get burned out? And they had two more in the top 100.
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While I understand that on the surface, 5v5 time doesn't look high for any 1 player, you need to look at our top 6 F and top 4 D unit breakdown to see how unique the Rangers have their ice-time allocated.

Z: Even1, PP1, PK1
Kreider: Even1, PP1, PK1
Panarin: Even1B, PP1
Trocheck: Even1B, PP2?, PK2
Laf: Even1, PP1?
Kakko: Even1B, PP2, PK2/3?

Fox: Even1, PP1, PK1
Lindgren: Even1, PK1
Miller: Even2, PK2
Trouba: Even2, PP2?, PK2

That is almost every player playing in all situations. Some of those minutes, such as PP2 for Trouba, and PK for Fox, would benefit the team if it were successfully moved down the lineup. The Rangers are a unique team where their top players are not just top offensive players, but are top all situations players. I think this could lead to some burnout/injuries if the team cant allocate some of that time elsewhere.
 
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MrAlmost said:
While I understand that on the surface, 5v5 time doesn't look high for any 1 player, you need to look at our top 6 F and top 4 D unit breakdown to see how unique the Rangers have their ice-time allocated.

Z: Even1, PP1, PK1
Kreider: Even1, PP1, PK1
Panarin: Even1B, PP1
Trocheck: Even1B, PP2?, PK2
Laf: Even1, PP1?
Kakko: Even1B, PP2, PK2/3?

Fox: Even1, PP1, PK1
Lindgren: Even1, PK1
Miller: Even2, PK2
Trouba: Even2, PP2?, PK2

That is almost every player playing in all situations. Some of those minutes, such as PP2 for Trouba, and PK for Fox, would benefit the team if it were successfully moved down the lineup. The Rangers are a unique team where their top players are not just top offensive players, but are top all situations players. I think this could lead to some burnout/injuries if the team cant allocate some of that time elsewhere.
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Yup.

PP2 for Jones (Trouba should be off entirely) and work Schneider into the PK rotation, with him eventually taking all of the minutes away from Fox.
 
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Who was burnt out??

Kreider scored at a 41 goal pace in the playoffs. Fox was incredible. Zibanejad was a Conn Smythe finalist if we beat Tampa. Panarin was mediocre but it's not like that was a letdown from his regular season.

The big guys were great except for Panarin who sucked the whole year.

We didn't lose because the top guys didn't perform. We lost mostly because Tampa is good and it didn't help that a guy who shouldn't have been on the ice (Rooney) probably cost us game 5.
 
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MrAlmost said:
While I understand that on the surface, 5v5 time doesn't look high for any 1 player, you need to look at our top 6 F and top 4 D unit breakdown to see how unique the Rangers have their ice-time allocated.

Z: Even1, PP1, PK1
Kreider: Even1, PP1, PK1
Panarin: Even1B, PP1
Trocheck: Even1B, PP2?, PK2
Laf: Even1, PP1?
Kakko: Even1B, PP2, PK2/3?

Fox: Even1, PP1, PK1
Lindgren: Even1, PK1
Miller: Even2, PK2
Trouba: Even2, PP2?, PK2

That is almost every player playing in all situations. Some of those minutes, such as PP2 for Trouba, and PK for Fox, would benefit the team if it were successfully moved down the lineup. The Rangers are a unique team where their top players are not just top offensive players, but are top all situations players. I think this could lead to some burnout/injuries if the team cant allocate some of that time elsewhere.
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How is that unique? All of these teams had at least two guys with more 4v5 PK TOI/game than Kreider (1:26/game). They also all play on the PP.

Boston - Marchand/Bergeron

Carolina - *Aho/Trocheck/Teravainen

Edm - *Nugent-Hopkins/Hyman

Fla - *Barkov/*Huberdeau

LA - Kopitar/Danault

PHI - *Couturier/Atkinson

SJ - *Couture/Hertl

STL - ROR/Buch/Thomas

VGK - Smith/Stephenson/Karlsson

* Indicates they also got more TOI than Zibanejad.
 
Machinehead said:
Who was burnt out??

Kreider scored at a 41 goal pace in the playoffs. Fox was incredible. Zibanejad was a Conn Smythe finalist if we beat Tampa. Panarin was mediocre but it's not like that was a letdown from his regular season.

The big guys were great except for Panarin who sucked the whole year.

We didn't lose because the top guys didn't perform. We lost mostly because Tampa is good and it didn't help that a guy who shouldn't have been on the ice (Rooney) probably cost us game 5.
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We ran into a team that was able to take away our strengths (the PP and attacking off the rush) and was our kryptonite to defend against (they created offense off the cycle and were more physical than us).

I still think we would have beaten anyone else in that division (Leafs, Bruins, Florida) if they were in front of us in a 7 game series.

Burn out wasn't the "issue" in that series but I'm sure playing 20 games in 39 days didn't help either.
 
Machinehead said:
Who was burnt out??

Kreider scored at a 41 goal pace in the playoffs. Fox was incredible. Zibanejad was a Conn Smythe finalist if we beat Tampa. Panarin was mediocre but it's not like that was a letdown from his regular season.

The big guys were great except for Panarin who sucked the whole year.

We didn't lose because the top guys didn't perform. We lost mostly because Tampa is good and it didn't help that a guy who shouldn't have been on the ice (Rooney) probably cost us game 5.
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we lost because Gallant leaned too heavily on our awful 2nd line where all 3 players were banged up and playing like shit and abandoned our 3rd line which was killing it.
 
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Vancouver apparently has interest in Lundkvist.



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Report: Canucks are “definitely interested” in RHD Nils Lundkvist and Ethan Bear

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The Vancouver Canucks are “definitely interested” in right-shot defencemen Nils Lundkvist and Ethan Bear, according to Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman.

In a Monday morning appearance on Donnie and Dhali – The Team, Friedman said the following:

“I do think the Canucks are interested in Bear,” said Friedman. “The one thing is, Lundkvist’s number is easier for them cap-wise than Bear’s is, so that’s one thing. The other thing is I think Bear is a guy who can probably help them more right away.
From what I’ve heard, Bear is a tougher deal to make in terms of their fit with Carolina and their cap implications than the Lundkvist one is and we’ll see if that turns out to be true or not.
Basically what I heard with Bear is they’re definitely interested, but I’m not sure that there’s a deal to be made there. Lundqvist they’re definitely interested, and I think there’s the possibility of a deal to be made there and I think it’s a little bit easier for them for cap reasons.
I just think that if this season is more meaningful to them, I think Bear gives them a better shot this year than Lundqvist does. He’s a talented young guy.”
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mas0764 said:
Handling of it post acquisition is also a big concern but given their on ice performance, we simply do not profile as a team with the elite talent to win like Chicago, Pittsburgh, Tampa, etc.
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I don’t agree with you here. Toews and Kane. Zibby and Panarin. Keith. Fox. Shesterkin is better than Crawford. Hossa. Kreider. On top of that, we have Trocheck, and all our top picks still developing. The Rangers have a ton of talent and if the younger players catch up soon, they will contend for the Cup.

This may be the most talented Rangers team I’ve ever seen. And guys are still on their way/developing.
 
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TheDirtyH said:
Hoglander for Nils would be a nice swap. Of course we probably have more wingers than we need right now, especially of the young, unproven variety.
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Daniel Brassard proposed that deal a few months ago.

Uninstaaled said:
Lundkvist for Hoglander would potentially be an all timer.

The latter with out a doubt has his warts but if he booms, hes a star which is why I can't see Vancouver doing it. Maybe under Benning, but now now.
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Boudreau isn't a big Hollander fan.
 
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TheDirtyH said:
Hoglander for Nils would be a nice swap. Of course we probably have more wingers than we need right now, especially of the young, unproven variety.
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RW depth can improve as much as center ice depth. Most of the wingers are LW. Hoglander is a RW most of the time I believe
 
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Kreider-Zibanejad-Kakko
Hoglander-Chytil-Kravtsov
Blais-Goodrow-Reeves
Hunt or Carpenter as 13th forward

Hoglander creates a logjam for ice time.
 
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Uninstaaled said:
Lundkvist for Hoglander
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a thought of mine for a while, similar age , pedigree, experience, etc

D.Hunt is a BC guy, package deal? maybe a 'nucks add longer-term prospect like Swede RD Jonathan Myrenberg

but if Hoglander comes, does Krav go for a young C?
only so much W ice-time ..
 
Hoglander and Kravtsov one the same line would be infuriating, hilarious and fun.

But who doesn't want to simultaneously throw their remote through the wall while while laughing and being thoroughly entertained?
 
Machinehead said:
Who was burnt out??

Kreider scored at a 41 goal pace in the playoffs. Fox was incredible. Zibanejad was a Conn Smythe finalist if we beat Tampa. Panarin was mediocre but it's not like that was a letdown from his regular season.

The big guys were great except for Panarin who sucked the whole year.

We didn't lose because the top guys didn't perform. We lost mostly because Tampa is good and it didn't help that a guy who shouldn't have been on the ice (Rooney) probably cost us game 5.
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And Strome playing at about 15% health didn’t help at all either.
 
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Riche16 said:
I'm lost also... to me it's someone who cuts pets' hair lol
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My wife is a dog groomer. We've had a home business for almost 20 years.
 

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That is a logjam. I'm sure the Rangers would have to add, but that's a trade I would love to see.
 
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