Speculation: Roster Building Thread: New Season Edition

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Chytil will score 20 goals this season.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Kakko isn’t untouchable by any means, but trading him for the sake of it because he hasn’t exploded, at what?, barely 22 at that point? Mistake. If you can get high value for him that’s one thing, if not just hold onto him and wait and see. At worst he’s a defensive ace that still gets 30-40 points per 80. You never want to be Ottawa in the Mika trade…

Lets also not forget that if Kakko is a late bloomer its going to be a huge benefit to the teams cap outlook. The timing is perfect.

Like you said, if he isnt lighting the world on fire, he will still be excelling on the defensive side, puck possession and providing solid minutes in a 3rd line role and you can pay him as such. Maybe even get a few extra years of term at a lower hit if Drury is smart.

There is talk of a big bump in the cap over the next 3 seasons, so now youll have more to spend to retain the Lafs, Millers, etc or even fill in some holes through trade/free agency, while extending a future breakout star at 23-24 years old.

If he comes around offensively then you are getting great all around production at a fraction of the cost. Its tough for people to remain patient. Its understandable given is draft position, but its not like he's hurting the team when hes out there.

The alternative would be to trade his potential just to bring in an older (possibly more expensive) player to likely supply the same amount of offense in that role and maybe less defense. Or just to clear space that will go to a scrub playing up in the lineup.

He is signed for 2 years at 2.1, so there would have to be a serious amount of patience, but I still think the jury would be out on his offensive prowess at 23. Thats right around where Mika exploded

 

[MrAlmost]

Is Kakko still in Finland or is he in New York, as well?

 

[McRanger92]

Chytil will score 20 goals this season.

Needs to stay healthy but yeah this is a distinct possibility with him getting softer 3rd line matchups

 

[IDvsEGO]

Is Kakko still in Finland or is he in New York, as well?

Camp is in a few days. I’d be very disappointed if he wasn’t here already.
Jet lag isn’t a good excuse to have a poor camp.

 

[Machinehead]

Chytil's not scoring 20 goals primarily at even strength

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

So - PP1 unit - Who takes Strome's spot?

My bet would be Trocheck, he is the best faceoff man on the team, slides into that RH bumper slot and can finish plays better than Strome.

We saw Chytil there when Strome was out in the playoffs. Would he be the next man up? OR would they give some time to Laf? A case could be made to put Kravstov there as well.

Lots of skilled guys who wont get top PP time. Oh, theyll get PP2 time but that wont be enough to even set up in the zone. That will hurt their numbers for sure.

 

[GAGLine]

Chytil's not scoring 20 goals primarily at even strength

He scored 7 in 20 games in the playoffs. Laf scored 19 in 79 games.

It's certainly possible. We'll see if he really has taken a step and what kind of opportunities he gets during the season. He probably won't get much PP time, if any, but he could easily find himself in the top 6 if there are injuries, particularly to Zib or Trocheck.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

So - PP1 unit - Who takes Strome's spot?

My bet would be Trocheck, he is the best faceoff man on the team, slides into that RH bumper slot and can finish plays better than Strome.

We saw Chytil there when Strome was out in the playoffs. Would he be the next man up? OR would they give some time to Laf? A case could be made to put Kravstov there as well.

Lots of skilled guys who wont get top PP time. Oh, theyll get PP2 time but that wont be enough to even set up in the zone. That will hurt their numbers for sure.

Should be Laf, will be Trochek

 

[zephyr]

Imo Chytil was absolute bomb at the end of last season and will be fine. I think he found his place and pace.

I hope people don't ignore the fact, that he was a playoff performer! He delivered big time, when it mattered.

But yeah, 40 games to show it wasn't a fluke, sure.

I think Kakko also played well in playoffs.....however, he needs to find a way to stay in the lineup more.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

First Nation New York Ranger Jim Neilson.

 

[Tob]

I think Kakko also played well in playoffs.....however, he needs to find a way to stay in the lineup more.

Kakko is going to be in the best shape of his life. He's been crushing tail all summer, full body works out, only stops to go to the gym to work the parts of body he doesn't use. No carbs, no sugar, all protein and cruciferous vegetables. Grip strength of 200 pounds.

 

[IDvsEGO]

So - PP1 unit - Who takes Strome's spot?

My bet would be Trocheck, he is the best faceoff man on the team, slides into that RH bumper slot and can finish plays better than Strome.

We saw Chytil there when Strome was out in the playoffs. Would he be the next man up? OR would they give some time to Laf? A case could be made to put Kravstov there as well.

Lots of skilled guys who wont get top PP time. Oh, theyll get PP2 time but that wont be enough to even set up in the zone. That will hurt their numbers for sure.

that spot needs to be laf's. He's far better puck handler, a better passer and probably far better finisher than anyone else on that list.
Trocheck should be Centering PP2, with Kakko/Kratsov on the wings, with Chytil and Jones.

He scored 7 in 20 games in the playoffs. Laf scored 19 in 79 games.

It's certainly possible. We'll see if he really has taken a step and what kind of opportunities he gets during the season. He probably won't get much PP time, if any, but he could easily find himself in the top 6 if there are injuries, particularly to Zib or Trocheck.

Laf also got moved up far more regularly.

 

[TominNC]

Nothing to do with age, only the media you consume.

I'm still lost and wondering why I shouldn't use a perfectly normal word.

 

[MrAlmost]

Putting Laf on PP1 is hopefully the route they go. I know he is a lefty and Trocheck is a righty, but I think it would benefit both players.

Laf gets more time in the offensive zone and more touches on the puck. Trocheck centers the PP2, which gets much less time, but gives that unit more impact with Kakko, Krav, Chytil and Jones. I think that PP2 unit could be the PP1 unit on a bad team.

Also, ice time needs to get spread a bit more. Can't run the top 6 forwards and top 4 D too much in all situations. They will burn out again by playoffs.

 

[cheech70]

 

[SA16]

Putting Laf on PP1 is hopefully the route they go. I know he is a lefty and Trocheck is a righty, but I think it would benefit both players.

Laf gets more time in the offensive zone and more touches on the puck. Trocheck centers the PP2, which gets much less time, but gives that unit more impact with Kakko, Krav, Chytil and Jones. I think that PP2 unit could be the PP1 unit on a bad team.

Also, ice time needs to get spread a bit more. Can't run the top 6 forwards and top 4 D too much in all situations. They will burn out again by playoffs.

The Rangers had one forward in the top 50 in 5v5 TOI/game in the league and two in the top hundred. I don't know why this narrative persists.

If you want to look at all strengths they had two in the top 50 and four in the top 150.

Colorado's top line ranked 6,9,17 in 5v5 TOI/game. How come they didn't get burned out? And they had two more in the top 100.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Putting Laf on PP1 is hopefully the route they go. I know he is a lefty and Trocheck is a righty, but I think it would benefit both players.

Laf gets more time in the offensive zone and more touches on the puck. Trocheck centers the PP2, which gets much less time, but gives that unit more impact with Kakko, Krav, Chytil and Jones. I think that PP2 unit could be the PP1 unit on a bad team.

Also, ice time needs to get spread a bit more. Can't run the top 6 forwards and top 4 D too much in all situations. They will burn out again by playoffs.

I love the way you think.

The Rangers had one forward in the top 50 in 5v5 TOI/game in the league and two in the top hundred. I don't know why this narrative persists.

If you want to look at all strengths they had two in the top 50 and four in the top 150.

Colorado's top line ranked 6,9,17 in 5v5 TOI/game. How come they didn't get burned out? And they had two more in the top 100.

Why did you filter out special teams there? Because ice time in terms of wearing a player out, also includes special teams.

 

[SA16]

Chytil would have to play almost 1600 minutes of 5v5 time to score 20 5v5 goals this year given his historical shooting percentage and last years shot rate (which was the highest shot rate of his career). The leading forward, McDavid, played 1327 minutes. How exactly is Chytil scoring 20 goals? He hasn't scored a PPG in over 2 years. The only way he is doing it is with insane shooting luck. Not impossible, of course, but it's an absurd thought to think he can score 20 goals very often in this role.

There have been 8 instances of a 20 goal season in under 13.2 mins/game since 2005. Two of those scored 20 at even strength. If we bump it up to 14 minutes, for some reason, you get 29 and 7. Good luck.

I love the way you think.


Why did you filter out special teams there? Because ice time in terms of wearing a player out, also includes special teams.

I didn't. There are two paragraphs. And it doesn't. 5v5 ice time is far more strenuous than PP ice time.

 

[Profet]

I'm somewhat hoping that Trochek lines up with PP2 as that squad DESPERATELY needs someone who can win a faceoff.

That being said, if his presence on PP1 leads to more PP goals, thats what you do. You always stack PP1 to give you the best chance of scoring even if it means making PP2 less effective. Teams that can consistently score PP goals are the teams that win games.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Chytil would have to play almost 1600 minutes of 5v5 time to score 20 5v5 goals this year given his historical shooting percentage and last years shot rate (which was the highest shot rate of his career). The leading forward, McDavid, played 1327 minutes. How exactly is Chytil scoring 20 goals? He hasn't scored a PPG in over 2 years. The only way he is doing it is with insane shooting luck. Not impossible, of course, but it's an absurd thought to think he can score 20 goals very often in this role.

There have been 8 instances of a 20 goal season in under 13.2 mins/game since 2005. Two of those scored 20 at even strength. If we bump it up to 14 minutes, for some reason, you get 29 and 7. Good luck.



I didn't. There are two paragraphs. And it doesn't. 5v5 ice time is far more strenuous than PP ice time.

But SH ice time is far more strenuous than 5v5 time.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I'm somewhat hoping that Trochek lines up with PP2 as that squad DESPERATELY needs someone who can win a faceoff.

That being said, if his presence on PP1 leads to more PP goals, thats what you do. You always stack PP1 to give you the best chance of scoring even if it means making PP2 less effective. Teams that can consistently score PP goals are the teams that win games.

And this is why he will be there to start the year, at the very least.

One of the reasons he was signed was to win face offs. He will be out there for the first PK and PP in zone draws and also late in the game in the defense zone.

Im not saying its the right move when it comes to Lafreniere, his development and the chance hes earned on the top unit, im just saying thats what I think will happen given the Rangers history.

Its kinda nuts that this franchise waited over a half century to finally land a first overall forward and they wont line him on the top PP unit 3 seasons into his career

 

[Circus86]

Chytil will score 20 goals this season.

 

[cheech70]

 

[bhamill]

I'm still lost and wondering why I shouldn't use a perfectly normal word.

“Grooming” has a pejorative meaning having to do with sexual exploitation. Especially of children. It has nothing to do with politics or what media you consume. Its been used for a LONG time that way but became more commonplace after the Epstein/Maxwell cases.
As is often the case, it all depends on the context it’s used in.