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irishlaxburger2 said:
The Bruins depth vs our depth was on serious display tonight, and it wasn’t pretty. The reality is in the NHL, there’s only so much room for big contracts. That means you need to make the bottom of your lineup as cost-effective as possible. We have the high priced guys. We have the guys on ELCs. We even have some great players on low cost second contracts.

The big issue is our low priced depth is absolute garbage against good teams. We desperately need a cheap, veteran defenseman to sure up our 7. Someone that can mentor the bottom pair and even push into the top 4 if someone isn’t playing well. Boston has Anton Stralman for $1m. We’ve made the idiotic decision to ride with Libor Hajek.

Goodrow, Blais, Carpenter, and Reaves are all replacement level players. The lack of cost efficiency when you sum up all those cap hits is egregious. You can’t build depth with so many bad low-priced contracts. Not to mention, their inconsistency requires us to carry an extra F most nights. Motte is literally what people thought Goodrow would be, except without the salary premium of a Cup winner. Rydahl could do exactly what Carpenter does and also is waivers exempt. Two really poor decisions there.

Drury did an incredible job at the deadline last year getting the most out of depth acquisitions to sure up holes. He was dreadful in attempting to do the same this off-season. A lack of cap space I guess can be blamed, but sometimes you need to make the tough decision to move contracts that need moving instead of just accepting them as requirements (ie. Reaves). In a flat cap world, the fringes of your lineup need to be close to perfect. Ours are really, really bad. It’s the difference between a good team and a great one, like Boston.
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Agreed. They completely messed up in the 4th line decisions. Carpenter had no business making this team and he contributes nothing. Reaves I kinda get but not really.

Rydahl, Gauthier, Vesey, Goodrow, Blais.

When Chytil is healthy I'd love to see the top line stacked. Bring up Rydahl, waive Carpenter.

Panarin - Zibanejad - Kreider
Kid Line (Lafreniere - Chytil - Kakko)
Blais - Trocheck - Gautheir
Goodrow - Rydahl - Vesey
 
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irishlaxburger2 said:
It's not just competing with Boston alone. Boston is simply a team that's on a hot streak currently that also happens to match our top end talent level *and* have much better depth.

Whether it's Boston or another team built similarly, we're going to run into someone like that come playoff time who also happens to be hot. And if those types of teams also have additional space at the deadline too, the gap widens further.

It's not about closing the gap with just Boston. It's about closing the gap with the true contenders because others will also exist elsewhere(see also - Tampa and Colorado last year). We're not built for it currently and we're also not accruing the cap space for it either. We're going to continue to be a middle of the road playoff team unless some restructuring takes place. And I don't think the restructuring needs to happen at the top of the lineup either. It's fixing the cheap areas.
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I agree. Too many players on this team that stink.

Reaves stinks. Blais stinks. Carpenter stinks. Gauthier stinks. Vesey stinks even though he started out well. Kravtsov has stunk when he's played. That's almost half the forward lineup giving you nothing any given night.

Cuylle, Othmann, and the Swede can't get here soon enough.
 
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GENESISPuck94 said:
Agreed. They completely messed up in the 4th line decisions. Carpenter had no business making this team and he contributes nothing. Reaves I kinda get but not really.

Rydahl, Gauthier, Vesey, Goodrow, Blais.

When Chytil is healthy I'd love to see the top line stacked. Bring up Rydahl, waive Carpenter.

Panarin - Zibanejad - Kreider
Kid Line (Lafreniere - Chytil - Kakko)
Blais - Trocheck - Gautheir
Goodrow - Rydahl - Vesey
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The same problems still exist plus Panarin and Zibanejad have never meshed for whatever reason. I'd probably just put Lafreniere back with Chytil in an ideal world but in reality this team is 1 top-9 RW short. Go back to the lines we had the first few games except replace Reaves with Gauthier is where they likely should go
 
hockeyplayer999 said:
Rangers will be sellers at the deadline. The east is to good this year and the rangers are not that good. Shesty looks terrible most games this year. He gets outplayed by most goalies. Our scoring is little to Kim existent. The defense looks lost. Halek, Blais, Reaves, carpenter and Vesey will all be gone. Everyone will get there wish. The young players from The pack will be up here.
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Calm down, chicken little. LOL
 
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GENESISPuck94 said:
Agreed. They completely messed up in the 4th line decisions. Carpenter had no business making this team and he contributes nothing. Reaves I kinda get but not really.

Rydahl, Gauthier, Vesey, Goodrow, Blais.

When Chytil is healthy I'd love to see the top line stacked. Bring up Rydahl, waive Carpenter.

Panarin - Zibanejad - Kreider
Kid Line (Lafreniere - Chytil - Kakko)
Blais - Trocheck - Gautheir
Goodrow - Rydahl - Vesey
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I like Tro too much to do that to him. Effort wise not sure how we can move Tro down and keep Kreider there.
 
GENESISPuck94 said:
Agreed. They completely messed up in the 4th line decisions. Carpenter had no business making this team and he contributes nothing. Reaves I kinda get but not really.

Rydahl, Gauthier, Vesey, Goodrow, Blais.

When Chytil is healthy I'd love to see the top line stacked. Bring up Rydahl, waive Carpenter.

Panarin - Zibanejad - Kreider
Kid Line (Lafreniere - Chytil - Kakko)
Blais - Trocheck - Gautheir
Goodrow - Rydahl - Vesey
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They need more depth and your proposal is to put their three best scorers on the same line such that ~65% of the time none of the them will be on the ice at 5v5?
 
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GENESISPuck94 said:
Agreed. They completely messed up in the 4th line decisions. Carpenter had no business making this team and he contributes nothing. Reaves I kinda get but not really.

Rydahl, Gauthier, Vesey, Goodrow, Blais.

When Chytil is healthy I'd love to see the top line stacked. Bring up Rydahl, waive Carpenter.

Panarin - Zibanejad - Kreider
Kid Line (Lafreniere - Chytil - Kakko)
Blais - Trocheck - Gautheir
Goodrow - Rydahl - Vesey
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Rather have:

Panarin - Zibanejad - Trochek (take all draws)
Kid Line (Lafreniere - Chytil - Kakko)
Blais - Goodrow - Kreider
Gautheir - Rydahl - Vesey

Trocheck has been 10x more effective than Kreider, keep him with Panrain.
 
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JimmyG89 said:
Krav to IR could let them exceed the cap. If he isn't really that close to being ready, we could use another body.
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that is just another move to put us in a worse position down the road this season. what a mess we have right now
 
Kreider is typically streaky. A lot of his career would either start cold and he gets hot in the 2nd half or he starts hot and cools off.

I expect him to pick it up as the season moves on. This isn't abnormal for him.
 
bleedblue94 said:
can we even afford a 1mil cap hit? ha
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Waive Blais. I can't believe this is the same player that was a wrecking ball for St. Louis during their Cup run. He lost at least two steps courtesy of PK Subban. He looks so slow out there. Looks cooked.
 
I Eat Crow said:
Waive Blais. I can't believe this is the same player that was a wrecking ball for St. Louis during their Cup run. He lost at least two steps courtesy of PK Subban. He looks so slow out there. Looks cooked.
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if you waive him that doesnt help much, and they wont trade him for pennies on the dollar since that was one of drury's first trades.
 
Rangers dont play again until Sunday. Demote Jones and Schneider on paper. Claim Aubel-Kubel, trade Krav and Carpenter for a bottom 6 guy with speed and tenacity and an extra year or 2 on the contract with retention. Win games. Stanley Cup. Haha
 
Blais shouldn’t even have been qualified. Brooks wrote a few days ago it usually takes a season coming back from his injury to get back to normal, so he will be gone anyways after this year.

It’s like when a baseball team signs a guy having Tommy John for two years so they get the one year when he’s back to normal at a cheap price.

For the Rangers, they won’t get anything.

He is the easiest guy to move at the deadline though, even a shitty team can just take him back as a body.
 
How done is Mike Hoffman?

Blais + Reaves for him @ 50% would help take one guy out of our logjam, clear about $1 million and potentially give us a little more RW depth.

Include a 4th or 5th for Pezzetta and you replace a bit of the sandpaper.

Granted, we'd have Hoffman through next year.

Panarin - Trocheck - Hoffman might be something.
 
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Charlie Conway said:
How done is Mike Hoffman?

Blais + Reaves for him @ 50% would help take one guy out of our logjam, clear about $1 million and potentially give us a little more RW depth.

Include a 4th or 5th for Pezzetta and you replace a bit of the sandpaper.

Granted, we'd have Hoffman through next year.

Panarin - Trocheck - Hoffman might be something.
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Hoffman's completely cooked
 
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