Speculation: Roster Building Thread: New Season Edition

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The Bruins depth vs our depth was on serious display tonight, and it wasn’t pretty. The reality is in the NHL, there’s only so much room for big contracts. That means you need to make the bottom of your lineup as cost-effective as possible. We have the high priced guys. We have the guys on ELCs. We even have some great players on low cost second contracts.

The big issue is our low priced depth is absolute garbage against good teams. We desperately need a cheap, veteran defenseman to sure up our 7. Someone that can mentor the bottom pair and even push into the top 4 if someone isn’t playing well. Boston has Anton Stralman for $1m. We’ve made the idiotic decision to ride with Libor Hajek.

Goodrow, Blais, Carpenter, and Reaves are all replacement level players. The lack of cost efficiency when you sum up all those cap hits is egregious. You can’t build depth with so many bad low-priced contracts. Not to mention, their inconsistency requires us to carry an extra F most nights. Motte is literally what people thought Goodrow would be, except without the salary premium of a Cup winner. Rydahl could do exactly what Carpenter does and also is waivers exempt. Two really poor decisions there.

Drury did an incredible job at the deadline last year getting the most out of depth acquisitions to sure up holes. He was dreadful in attempting to do the same this off-season. A lack of cap space I guess can be blamed, but sometimes you need to make the tough decision to move contracts that need moving instead of just accepting them as requirements (ie. Reaves). In a flat cap world, the fringes of your lineup need to be close to perfect. Ours are really, really bad. It’s the difference between a good team and a great one, like Boston.
Salary cap.

Drury had a boatload of accrued cap space at the deadline last March.

Drury had no money this summer.
 
We should have been in on Zacha when he was available. Would have looked good on the 3rd line with Chytil.
The Rangers had $3.5M this summer for Zacha?

The Rangers had no money. The Rangers still have no money. The Rangers are having issues with injuries. Kravtsov can't stay healthy. Sending him to the AHL on a conditioning assignment isn't alleviating the Rangers salary cap issues. Lindgren has an upper body injury. If he misses a few weeks, Hajek will play and the Rangers will be hoping they don't lose another D because they don't have space for a call up from the AHL.
 
The Rangers had $3.5M this summer for Zacha?

The Rangers had no money. The Rangers still have no money. The Rangers are having issues with injuries. Kravtsov can't stay healthy. Sending him to the AHL on a conditioning assignment isn't alleviating the Rangers salary cap issues. Lindgren has an upper body injury. If he misses a few weeks, Hajek will play and the Rangers will be hoping they don't lose another D because they don't have space for a call up from the AHL.
I take your point, but Jersey took back Haula for Zacha. A deal for Zacha could have been structured to work with our cap constraints.
 
Salary cap.

Drury had a boatload of accrued cap space at the deadline last March.

Drury had no money this summer.
He’s also doing himself no favors in trying to increase cap space.

Get rid of Reaves, Goodrow, Blais, or Hajek? Nope!

Play Rydahl - who you can paper transact at no cost to him and no waivers - instead of Carpenter? Nope!

There are fairly small yet important decisions that could open up space without making our team worse that Drury isn’t even trying.
 
If we had the cap space we should be giving Cuylle a look on the 4th line in place of Reaves. We need more movement on that 4th line right now. Reaves should be playing sparingly
 
He’s also doing himself no favors in trying to increase cap space.

Get rid of Reaves, Goodrow, Blais, or Hajek? Nope!

Play Rydahl - who you can paper transact at no cost to him and no waivers - instead of Carpenter? Nope!

There are fairly small yet important decisions that could open up space without making our team worse that Drury isn’t even trying.
Who is taking those players? The Rangers need to have more 6 D on the roster. Hajek makes $50,000 more than the NHL minimum.

Teams needed to attach assets to move players.
 
Why don’t we call up Dominique and send down Halek. That will give us some cap space. Carpenter send down he is useless then bring up someone that can be a paper transaction. I really doubt Halek gets picked up. What team wants a goalie at 1.5 million who is terrible and can’t be trusted to play bottom teams like Arizona. Dominique will give us a better effort than Halek.
 
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Who is taking those players? The Rangers need to have more 6 D on the roster. Hajek makes $50,000 more than the NHL minimum.

Teams needed to attach assets to move players.
Hajek can be waived and we can find someone better at the same salary.

Carpenter can be waived and Rydahl can be called up (and also "sent down" on off days).

I wouldn't hate attaching a Draft pick to drop Goodrow on someone. Even late 2nd round picks have less than a 25% of becoming NHLers. That's not a big price to pay to open up that amount of salary. Same could be said for Blais.

There are far cheaper alternatives out there that can actually improve this roster *and* increase our cap space pretty considerably.

This team has a 3 year window while Shesterkin still has a relatively low % of overall cap hit. The fact we're just wasting salary at the bottom of the lineup while many other contenders have $5M+ projected for the deadline means we're just making non-competitive decisions along the fringes. All because making these moves would necessitate Chris Drury to actually fall on the sword and admit these were bad acquisitions in the first place.

It's one thing to make bad acquisitions. It's quite another to hold them longer than needed simply out of spite. He needs to learn to cut his losses and face the music.
 
Why don’t we call up Dominique and send down Halek. That will give us some cap space. Carpenter send down he is useless then bring up someone that can be a paper transaction. I really doubt Halek gets picked up. What team wants a goalie at 1.5 million who is terrible and can’t be trusted to play bottom teams like Arizona. Dominique will give us a better effort than Halek.
Halak has a NMC. If you think Domingue is better than Halak I have a 50 foot wrister with 5 minutes left in a tied game to show you.

Halak is so terrible yet the Rangers could never score on him...Ullmark must be bad too.
 
I wouldn't hate attaching a Draft pick to drop Goodrow on someone. Even late 2nd round picks have less than a 25% of becoming NHLers. That's not a big price to pay to open up that amount of salary.

It cost us 2 picks (a 2nd in 2025 and Arizona's choice of a 3rd in 2024 or a 2nd in 2026) to dump 2 years of Nemeth @ 2.5 mil.

Goodrow has actual value, but that doesn't mean other teams are looking to take on his contract for the next 4 1/2 years. He also has a 15 team NTC, so he could block a trade to any team that actually has cap space.

Next summer we have options, especially if the cap goes up significantly.
 
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An upgrade for the 3rd pair is the most pressing need on this team right now. We all want to love Jones but he really hasn't been good. Schneider has struggled as well and Hajek is Hajek.

I think we need to add a veteran who can anchor that pair and then rotate the kids in. I just don't know who or how we add anyone who would fit the mould considering the cap situation.

It's a shame Giordano signed his cheap deal in Toronto, he would've been perfect.
 
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Boston isn't as good as their first 10 games have shown. They've started out hot and have a great top 6.

Their team is old. I just don't see them keeping this up through March and April of next year.

Florida may miss this year if your Atlantic teams are Boston, Toronto, Buffalo, and Tampa.
 
An upgrade for the 3rd pair is the most pressing need on this team right now. We all want to love Jones but he really hasn't been good. Schneider has struggled as well and Hajek is Hajek.

I think we need to add a veteran who can anchor that pair and then rotate the kids in. I just don't know who or how we add anyone who would fit the mould considering the cap situation.

It's a shame Giordano signed his cheap deal in Toronto, he would've been perfect.
It doesn't necessarily have to be because of Jones or Schneider's poor play either. A dependable veteran 7th defenseman can help mentor them and also provides depth for a potential injury somewhere (ie. Lindgren). It also holds the top 4 accountable because that player could ideally slot in if one of them has a rough stretch.

It's what we need for multiple reasons, not just because of potential Schneider/Jones development lapses.
 
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Boston isn't as good as their first 10 games have shown. They've started out hot and have a great top 6.

Their team is old. I just don't see them keeping this up through March and April of next year.

Florida may miss this year if your Atlantic teams are Boston, Toronto, Buffalo, and Tampa.
It's not just competing with Boston alone. Boston is simply a team that's on a hot streak currently that also happens to match our top end talent level *and* have much better depth.

Whether it's Boston or another team built similarly, we're going to run into someone like that come playoff time who also happens to be hot. And if those types of teams also have additional space at the deadline too, the gap widens further.

It's not about closing the gap with just Boston. It's about closing the gap with the true contenders because others will also exist elsewhere(see also - Tampa and Colorado last year). We're not built for it currently and we're also not accruing the cap space for it either. We're going to continue to be a middle of the road playoff team unless some restructuring takes place. And I don't think the restructuring needs to happen at the top of the lineup either. It's fixing the cheap areas.
 
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An upgrade for the 3rd pair is the most pressing need on this team right now. We all want to love Jones but he really hasn't been good. Schneider has struggled as well and Hajek is Hajek.

I think we need to add a veteran who can anchor that pair and then rotate the kids in. I just don't know who or how we add anyone who would fit the mould considering the cap situation.

It's a shame Giordano signed his cheap deal in Toronto, he would've been perfect.
And we are screwed if Lindgren is out for an extended period. Hopefully he's ok.
 
Boston isn't as good as their first 10 games have shown. They've started out hot and have a great top 6.

Their team is old. I just don't see them keeping this up through March and April of next year.

Florida may miss this year if your Atlantic teams are Boston, Toronto, Buffalo, and Tampa.
Boston has great depth though.up front and on the back end.great special teams too. If they get average goaltending in the playoffs,they will be a tough out for anyone
 
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It doesn't necessarily have to be because of Jones or Schneider's poor play either. A dependable veteran 7th defenseman can help mentor them and also provides depth for a potential injury somewhere (ie. Lindgren). It also holds the top 4 accountable because that player could ideally slot in if one of them has a rough stretch.

It's what we need for multiple reasons, not just because of potential Schneider/Jones development lapses.
Agreed.

I just wonder who the potential target could even be. I wonder if they could trade Hajek and a low pick for someone.
 
They should just have signed Hakanpaa, then UFA, instead of Nemeth as I suggested back then...
 
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the problem is that the bottom 6, especially without Chytil, are literally incapable of scoring.

At a minimum Reaves and Carpenter and probably Blais too have to be upgraded to useful players. Reaves is useless. Carpenter isn't as bad and I'd probably keep him as a 13F. Blais f***ing sucks. Both sides of the ice he has absolutely no ability. I'm sure he's still trying to recover from not playing for almost a year but holy shit he adds NOTHING. No skill, no puck control, sucks ass on the boards, doesn't shoot, all he does is hit. And he's on a line full of players that are just as bad at those things.
 
the problem is that the bottom 6, especially without Chytil, are literally incapable of scoring.

At a minimum Reaves and Carpenter and probably Blais too have to be upgraded to useful players. Reaves is useless. Carpenter isn't as bad and I'd probably keep him as a 13F. Blais f***ing sucks. Both sides of the ice he has absolutely no ability. I'm sure he's still trying to recover from not playing for almost a year but holy shit he adds NOTHING. No skill, no puck control, sucks ass on the boards, doesn't shoot, all he does is hit. And he's on a line full of players that are just as bad at those things.
Reaves is tied for 11th in hits league-wide this season, is 6th in hits/60.
 
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