Just my opinion, but I think Drury would be fine with Goodrow at 3C come playoff time.
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I think the copp trade and vatrano trade last year says opposite.
He pushed goodrow down to the fourth, and we thrived.
Drury seems to have a good sense of where goodrow should play.
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I'm not sure I buy those trades were because of Goodrow but I do know what Drury paid for his services and that's not reflective of a 4th line player. In a perfect world, Kakko and Laff play well enough where they don't need to land a big prize at the deadline. I'm just saying I don't think Chytil will hold up Drury going after someone he wants. I love Chytil, but he can't seem to stay healthy. Hopefully he grows out of it but at some point you aren't evaluating the ideal player, you're evaluating the actual player.
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Which would be a terrible mistake but I don't agree that he would be ok with it.
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Krav and Carp for an upgrade in the bottom 6 seems like an obvious move right now. Likely a player with another year or 2 on their contract. Time to find value adds.
If you think he's paying him 3.6m per year to play on the 4th line, I don't know what to tell you.
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I think he's getting paid 3.6 mil a year to play a specific role, not be the 3C. Gallant prefers him at wing if hes playing in the top 9, we saw it all last year.
I'm not advocating for it, but if adding a player like Kane to the top 6 means having Goodrow play 3C, I don't think Gallant or Drury will lose any sleep over it.
I don't think a Kane trade makes a lot of sense.
1) We can't fit him under the cap. Without something changing that enables us to do that, there is a 0% chance of it happening.
2) Kane is not a fit for us because he adds a lot of his value on the power play and we couldn't use him there, at least not without wasting someone else. 70% of his points this season have come on the power play. The two years before that, it was over 30%.
He plays the same position on the power play as Panarin. Does it make us better if we have to take Panarin off the power play to make room for him? Or if we have to move Panarin and take Mika off the power play? If Kane is not playing on our power play, where a huge chunk of his points come, is he worth giving up that much for?
He is a very good player, but I'm not sure it is going to make a lot of sense to trade for a guy who 1) we can't trade for 2) wouldn't fit on our roster and 3) would cost a ton.
1) We can't fit him under the cap. Without something changing that enables us to do that, there is a 0% chance of it happening.
2) Kane is not a fit for us because he adds a lot of his value on the power play and we couldn't use him there, at least not without wasting someone else. 70% of his points this season have come on the power play. The two years before that, it was over 30%.
He plays the same position on the power play as Panarin. Does it make us better if we have to take Panarin off the power play to make room for him? Or if we have to move Panarin and take Mika off the power play? If Kane is not playing on our power play, where a huge chunk of his points come, is he worth giving up that much for?
He is a very good player, but I'm not sure it is going to make a lot of sense to trade for a guy who 1) we can't trade for 2) wouldn't fit on our roster and 3) would cost a ton.
He was on our 4th line when the playoffs started (before he broke his ankle.)
Thats a ton of money to have on your 4th line but if you have the depth to deploy him there, its a good thing.
Like aside from the fact that Kane is a stupid idea that makes no sense for this team, it seems like Drury is more than comfortable putting Goodrow on the 4th line (if it not being his preference since this would mean that the team has 9 players better than him playing on the top 3 lines.)
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1. The cap stuff is irrelevant. If they want to make it work they will find a way whether it's to run a short roster, trade out salary, have the deal retained (twice?).
2. That is the case for the majority of top players and not just Kane. Of the top 50 scorers since 2020, 33 of them have at least 30% of their points on the power. 45 of them have at least 25%. The lowest is 22%.
3. He would have to be PP2 here. Really no other choice. Based on everything they said I think they actually would put him there rather than make changes (provided the PP is performing well at that point of course). Still good insurance to have for injury.
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Yeah if the Rangers want Kane, theyll get him. Teams always figure out the cap to get what they want at the deadline. Plus we've got more assets to trade than most other contenders.
My opinion, Kane is as square peg for this team. They don't need more elite top end scoring, they need a matchup center so Mika doesn't need to do it. O'Reilly is the dream, but there's a long way to go before that can become a reality.
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what's stopping us from going into the playoffs with
Krei-Zib-Kakk
Laf-Troch-Pan
Vesey-Chytil-TDL Acquisition
Blais-Goodrow-Gauthier
that would be a really strong 4th line
Goodrow at 3C is inexcusable.
Krei-Zib-Kakk
Laf-Troch-Pan
Vesey-Chytil-TDL Acquisition
Blais-Goodrow-Gauthier
that would be a really strong 4th line
then he's fine with a first round exit
Goodrow at 3C is inexcusable.
he just did in the playoffs
Oscar Lindberg
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Goodrow f***ing blows at face offs and is a 4th line player in general. Rangers ain’t winning shit with him at 3C
Oscar Lindberg
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It would be a Rangers move to trade Chytil, the only top 9 player they’ve developed in the last 5 years, right he’s about to break out for 2 months of Patrick Kane
Who would in a likely hood go through an incredible cold streak or get injured and not even get their moneys worth out of him
Who would in a likely hood go through an incredible cold streak or get injured and not even get their moneys worth out of him
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Agree with you, but not sure what kind of a return you would get for those two.
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I would honestly prefer a couple of guys like Motte and Paul to someone like Kane.
The good news is that if Gauthier continues playing pretty well, he can either supplant himself on the roster alleviating the need for one of those guys or be used as a piece to bring in a more veteran depth player at the deadline. Same goes for Hajek on defense.
The good news is that if Gauthier continues playing pretty well, he can either supplant himself on the roster alleviating the need for one of those guys or be used as a piece to bring in a more veteran depth player at the deadline. Same goes for Hajek on defense.
Oscar Lindberg
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This is what the Rangers need. They have the top end talent on lock.
Get bottom 6 players that improve depth so Ryan Reaves and Carpenter aren’t playing crucial minutes come April
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Think what you want of Kakko and Laf but at this point in time they are both playing at a 3rd line level at minimum.
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A bunch of self-loathing people who revel in failure. They'd rather bitch about "their" team than enjoy any success. For some reason, if it's not done exactly as THEY would have done it, it's a failure. All coaches suck and they'd do better. Same with the GM. I do hope all these people are as perfect in their daily lives as their think these other humans called coaches, GMs or players must be.
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I would think, knowing Drury's style since he took over, the players they might be looking at are the likes of Barabanov, Dickenson, Kuraly, Eric Robinson, Tanev, Geekie. Big splash type might be a Sissons or a Garland. However, these moves would be frugal and smart. Things the Rangers just dont do.
I used to be the guy who said this...
Then Motte and Vatrano happened. I don't think its going to be their main focus (they've star chased their nuts off no matter who has been at the head of the FO) but at least Drury and staff have identified and added these kinds of guys.
Dickenson is terrible though. I would hope that they dont go after him.
Domi to NYR could be a thing. His dad was a fan favorite here. Provides some skill with a nastiness in his game. Can play center and wing. Is a huge upgrade over anyone on the bottom 6.
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True. I have said it multiple times when people on here were losing their heads about Drury. The team has made very shrewd, un-OldTimeRangers type moves since he took over and I like that. Those are the moves that pay off.
Also, I understand with Dickinson. He was solid in Dallas but had a down year in Van. Has started strong in Chicago though.
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