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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: New Season Edition

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HockeyBasedNYC said:
Same goes for Kane. As great as he is and the thought of adding him to PP1 is thirst-worthy, there wont be enough of the puck to go around for all 5 on the ice.

If they continue to roll this way we are looking at a top 3 PP in the league, if not the best. Why mess with that and actually pay a ton to change it
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I’m actually out on Kane for now anyway. He’s not the player they need if Kakko and Lafreniere can stay on top six. I do think they need to beef up that Chytil line though. Chytil looks sharp but he needs some help there.
 
GENESISPuck94 said:
No it isn't.

It's pointing out how stupid this franchise is. Having two stud superstar caliber forwards in their early 20s being denied special teams play. It's idiotic.

Trocheck should be playing most of his time 5v5 and that's it.

Lafreniere and Kakko determine if this team wins a Cup or not. Make no mistake about it.
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They want a right-handed shot in bumper position so Panarin can feed one-timers to the bumper and Zibanejad. Strome was right-handed. Trocheck is right-handed. Laf is left-handed. Kakko is left-handed. They have spoken publicly about this. If it wasn't working I would complain about it but PP1 is having all-time success.
 
Do you want ants said:
What’s too big brain is you thinking we need mess with our elite PP. The kids are getting plenty of time to start the season. If someone gets hurt or it goes cold for an extended period, they’ll get their chance.
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The PP beat up on a pee wee league Ducks team.

And again, it's not "messing with the PP" to put one of two players that are already better players than Trocheck.
 
They've now committed to Trotchek on that PP, and unless the PP starts having issues he's going to stay there. What maybe should've been done is tell him on the day he was signing that there probably wouldn't be PP time available, so if you want that you can look for it somewhere else.

It's a frustrating situation, but there's no easy fix for it. In the end, it will mostly just hurt their scoring, which
- Actually helps to keep the Laf contract more reasonable bridge
- Provides some ammunition for fans of other teams who want to mock Kakko and Laf. And who gives a flying f*** what they think?
 
Crease said:
They want a right-handed shot in bumper position so Panarin can feed one-timers to the bumper and Zibanejad. Strome was right-handed. Trocheck is right-handed. Laf is left-handed. Kakko is left-handed. They have spoken publicly about this.
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So Lafreniere and Kakko won't get PP1 time for the next several years based on that. Which is stupid.

You think Laf and Kakko can't shoot off a pass because they're lefty?
 
Savant said:
I’m actually out on Kane for now anyway. He’s not the player they need if Kakko and Lafreniere can stay on top six. I do think they need to beef up that Chytil line though. Chytil looks sharp but he needs some help there.
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Someone that has always produced on good teams is Evgeni Dadonov. Think he would love a 1 way ticket out of Montreal and they would oblige to get more assets for their rebuild. Get them to retain 50%, you can still get your veteran D.
 
Savant said:
I’m actually out on Kane for now anyway. He’s not the player they need if Kakko and Lafreniere can stay on top six. I do think they need to beef up that Chytil line though. Chytil looks sharp but he needs some help there.
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Could get a very effective 3rd liner with good metrics who can shoot the puck for less than a 1st
 
JimmyG89 said:
Someone that has always produced on good teams is Evgeni Dadonov. Think he would love a 1 way ticket out of Montreal and they would oblige to get more assets for their rebuild. Get them to retain 50%, you can still get your veteran D.
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Wouldn’t be the guy I would go after but maybe?

I’d like a guy like Donato and/or Erne. Prob wouldn’t have to worry as much with retention either. And both Seattle and Detroit would have some rental dmen too that would be useful in Soucy and Maatta

HockeyBasedNYC said:
Could get a very effective 3rd liner with good metrics who can shoot the puck for less than a 1st
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Yup. That’s my thinking. Or you find a team like Seattle and Detroit that can plug two holes in one deal.
 
GENESISPuck94 said:
The PP beat up on a pee wee league Ducks team.

And again, it's not "messing with the PP" to put one of two players that are already better players than Trocheck.
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It is messing with the PP. It’s been explained multiple times what the idea and system is. If you want to continue to ignore how good our PP is and has been with this system that’s on you.
 
Savant said:
Wouldn’t be the guy I would go after but maybe?

I’d like a guy like Donato and/or Erne. Prob wouldn’t have to worry as much with retention either. And both Seattle and Detroit would have some rental dmen too that would be useful in Soucy and Maatta
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I like Soucy in a reduced role. I think Seattle plays him too much.

Dadonov can play up and down the lineup. Offensive punch on the 3rd line or support role in the top 6. I wouldn't want to get a clear cut 3rd/4th liner because injuries always happen. Give me the middle 6 winger that could jump on the 2nd line if needed.
 
GENESISPuck94 said:
So Lafreniere and Kakko won't get PP1 time for the next several years based on that. Which is stupid.

You think Laf and Kakko can't shoot off a pass because they're lefty?
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You don't try to fix what isn't broken.its not hard to understand..or so I figured.
 
GENESISPuck94 said:
The PP beat up on a pee wee league Ducks team.

And again, it's not "messing with the PP" to put one of two players that are already better players than Trocheck.
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What are the benefits? How much better would they be? It's seems like it's more about our top kids lighting up the score sheet...

The negatives? Laffy and Kakko become very expensive next contract.

They will get their turn eventually. Whether it's a year or two, their time will come.
 
Hire Sather said:
Why is it stupid? It's probably the best power play in the league
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Because Lafreniere and Kakko are 1 and 2 overall picks still being denied situations that just about every other 1st and 2nd overall pick is put in. And they're better players than the guy being put in the spot they should be in.
 
GENESISPuck94 said:
No it isn't.

It's pointing out how stupid this franchise is. Having two stud superstar caliber forwards in their early 20s being denied special teams play. It's idiotic.

Trocheck should be playing most of his time 5v5 and that's it.

Lafreniere and Kakko determine if this team wins a Cup or not. Make no mistake about it.
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The team's weakness has always been its 5 on 5 play. Kakko & Laf are both top 5 in 5v5 ice time, and thriving. Maybe the team sees them as the solution to a longtime problem. Doesn't seem very stupid to me.
 
duhmetreE said:
What are the benefits? How much better would they be? It's seems like it's more about our top kids lighting up the score sheet...

The negatives? Laffy and Kakko become very expensive next contract.

They will get their turn eventually. Whether it's a year or two, their time will come.
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You think their negotiations will matter if they're getting PP1 time or not? They're not stupid. Everyone who watches them play knows what they're capable of, and so does their agents. I'd be more concerned with them holding out or looking to move on to a place where they're not actively denied more playing time because of the coach's preference for an inferior player.
 
GENESISPuck94 said:
Because Lafreniere and Kakko are 1 and 2 overall picks still being denied situations that just about every other 1st and 2nd overall pick is put in. And they're better players than the guy being put in the spot they should be in.
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We ALL WANT Kakko and Laffy light it up and be 90pts players

For as great as that would be, it would tear the team apart with the type of contracts they would warrant. Laffy next season and Kakko in the one following.

GENESISPuck94 said:
You think their negotiations will matter if they're getting PP1 time or not? They're not stupid. Everyone who watches them play knows what they're capable of, and so does their agents. I'd be more concerned with them holding out or looking to move on to a place where they're not actively denied more playing time because of the coach's preference for an inferior player.
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100% yes.

You do not think adding anywhere from 15-30pts, to their totals , will affect their future contracts/salary?
 
McRanger92 said:
The team's weakness has always been its 5 on 5 play. Kakko & Laf are both top 5 in 5v5 ice time, and thriving. Maybe the team sees them as the solution to a longtime problem. Doesn't seem very stupid to me.
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They should be getting the 5v5 time they're getting. They should also be getting special teams time.

The Rangers will not win a Cup without Laf and Kakko being the players they can be in all situations. It's not going to happen before then.

The other issue is them sitting for extended periods of time during games because of special teams. That shouldn't happen.
 
duhmetreE said:
We ALL WANT Kakko and Laffy light it up and be 90pts players

For as great as that would be, it would tear the team apart with the type of contracts they would warrant. Laffy next season and Kakko in the one following.


100% yes.

You do not think adding anywhere from 15-30pts, to their totals , will affect their future contracts/salary?
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I think Laf and Kakko are 60 point players right now.

I can't believe I even have to argue the importance of Lafreniere and Kakko vs Vincent fkn Trocheck. But here we are.

I'm never going to support prioritizing inferior players. But that's me. Let's hope it works out.
 
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