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The Gretzky Years and what we learned
The 1996/97 season was a transition year for the New York Ranger. Three years removed from their Stanley Cup win and after a disappointing second round loss in the 1995/96 playoff the Rangers were informed that The Great One, Wayne Gretzky wished to sign with the club.
The Ranger had no former connection to Wayne yet they felt obligated to grant his wish of playing in New York City and being reunited with his friend and former team-mate Mark Messier and so it was decided to kick the rebuild/retool can down the road and attempt a win now mode.
In 1996/97 despite having a top 5 forward group of Messier, Gretzky, Graves, Robitaille and Alexi Kovalev the Rangers finished four games above .500 and lost in the conference finals to the Philadelphia Flyers.
The following season despite there being no salary cap in the NHL the club let Mark Messier walk. It was reported then that President Dave Checketts said he wasn’t going to keep paying Messier for the cup win back in 94.
It was determined that the reason they had lost to the Flyers and failed to make It to the cup finals that year was because the team lacked the role/trench players the grit/sandpaper players that are required to go all the way. So that is exactly what they did, signing former captains from other teams Brian Skrudland and Mike Keane, adding Tim Sweeny, Kevin Stevens, Mike Eastwood and to replace the void Messier had left the organization the club attempted and failed offer sheet to sign Colorado Avalanche Joe Sakic (Colorado matched) leading to the infamous “Plan B” signing of concussion prone Pat LaFontaine.
The plan was a total failure, Skrudland, Keane and Eastwood were gone by the deadline and the Rangers finished out of the playoffs with a record of 25-39-18.
What we learned and lost
It was determined by the front office staff after that failed year that you can’t buy or trade for established role/grit players. That they had to be developed as prospects within the organization that these players would have to be drafted or acquired prior to them becoming major leaguers with years of experience on other clubs. That these in house system players will grow with each other and show more of a willingness to sacrifice themselves, more loyal and stand up for themselves and their team-mates. To be willing to do the dirty work that is required to win in the NHL. To be proud to be New York Rangers.
Wayne Gretzky played one more year with the Rangers and it became a farewell tour throughout the NHL with the team once again missing the playoffs.
Neil Smith was fired after Gretzky retired and the plan was laid to rest; to be forgotten. Glen Sather took control and had a different approach and who wanted to oppose a man that had constructed teams that won five Stanley Cups much to the dismay of the fanbase.
An Anecdotical Story and the Tale of Two Brandons
I will end with an anecdotical story. There was a game being played by the Rangers during the Glen Sather Rangers G.M. years. Brandon Prust was on the ice as well as Brandon Dubinsky. Dubinsky was involved with a much larger known enforcer from the opposing team. Prust could have stepped in before it escalated but chose not to. Prust was miked up at the time and was heard to say he didn’t wish to help Dubinsky for fear of being suspended by the league just before the Winter Classic that the Rangers were scheduled to play in. The altercation led to a fight in which Dubinsky showed poorly. Anyone who has been following this team for sometime knows that if Brandon Dubinsky was on ice and a team-mate was being placed in a harmful situation, he would not have wasted a second to come to that players aid, regardless of the outcome to his own safety or loss of a prize. What was the difference between the two Brandon’s, one was a home grown within the organization and the other was a player that had bounced around between Calgary and Phoenix then back to Calgary before being acquired by the Rangers via trade.
 
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My best guess is it’s a shot to the league. This franchise is an economic engine of the league. It publicly saying that it thinks DOPS is run poorly and is not fulfilling its purpose is a pretty big deal front office to front office. As a fan I honestly don’t love it, but I think it probabaly makes sense strategically. Panarin is a huge asset for this team and he was close to being very, very injured. I don’t love hypothetical comparisons either but if that were Crosby, McDavid, etc Wilson would not be playing tonight

While I get what your are saying, and I am not disagreeing with what the Rangers said, more so I don't see how this delivery of their message garners any support among the other organizations, and certainly not with the league. A shot at the league is basically a shot at the other owners, the NHLPA, and everything that goes along with that including the DOPS.
 
Yep, this move is political. The NYR is taking the issue out of the boardrooms and into the public eye. By highlighting the NHLs/DoPS double standards and hypocrisy they set the narrative for future events like this one. Next time that ape Wilson, or another knuckledragger, assaults another player, the NYR and the victim team(s) will get more more ammo for their case and it will keep building until the breaking point.

The NYR is not just any franchise. If it was say Arizona Bettman could do whatever he wanted, but the NYR is a big market corner stone franchise and disrespecting it openly would come at a cost, even to Bettman.

It doesn't take a galaxy brain to realize having a goon like Parros in charge of the DoPS is a political play. Parros came in and the big move was to instruct refs to clamp down on slashings to the hands... yet this clown completely ignores Wilson going apeshit banging players heads' against the ice, and several other situations where players were concussed. Now Parros tried to ignore Panarin being assaulted because he was afraid of suspending Wilson going into the playoffs, which he would have had to after fining him 5k for attacking Buch, a pathetic and cowardly move which justifies the Rangers' complaint.

Problem is, Bettman have two issues. (a) getting support for his vision from the owners and (b) the weakest organization that constantly are on the verge of folding. We is no priority in these areas.

I don't mind the PM. BUT, we must back it up on the ice. We can't be the team that is super weak and runs to hide between the league whenever something happens.
 
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I feel like Sakic gets a lot of props around here for his building of the Avs. We just have to stress patience as seen in Colorado. They let their prospects develop, figure it out, and grow. No artificial timelines. They went through a lot of growing pains and it seemed like they weren't built for post season success.

The bulk of that roster is draftees and players that developed in the organization, if acquired from trades. No panic moves. They augmented the roster with minor moves, and then they traded a glut defender for Kadri who brought a new dimension to that roster. Their team is poised. They took their lumps and took steps forward. Sakic intervened when it was clear an answer wasn't from within.

I want that. I don't want to be the flyers. Hire a rebuild/patience guy and then go off the rails because of division in the organization. Hextall tried to being Hart along slowly. He wanted to trim away more of the aging core and acquire assets a bit longer.

Philly couldn't stick to the plan and it is a disaster now. Hart has no confidence. AV may get fired. They have to get rid of JVR again. Their core players can't carry the load for the youth. I think they bailed a little too soon on what was shaping into a strong prospect pool. You have to have faith in your plan, otherwise you have no plan.
 
What I want to know is if a tougher F is signed well who comes out of the lineup ?

no obvious pick and I don’t see many changes with all the kids
 
What I want to know is if a tougher F is signed well who comes out of the lineup ?

no obvious pick and I don’t see many changes with all the kids

Somebody will be taken by expansion team.

Strome, Howden, Blackwell, Gauthier and Rooney can be traded. DiGi is a UFA.
 
Holy fook. Dolan put the whiskey down and said wtffff when Gary said 500k on my desk by Friday yo.
 
While I get what your are saying, and I am not disagreeing with what the Rangers said, more so I don't see how this delivery of their message garners any support among the other organizations, and certainly not with the league. A shot at the league is basically a shot at the other owners, the NHLPA, and everything that goes along with that including the DOPS.
It’s not to garner support I don’t think - more to exert pressure
 
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