Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXI: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[AlaBlueShirt]

Zib was soft as shit during that wilson episode. Man didn’t even drop his stick.

 

[cheech70]

Though, why would Dolan want Eichel? He hasn’t done anything in Buffalo. It’s hardly like wanting like LeBrown James. Thinks can’t be more clear that Eichel will give you absolutely nothing unless you have a very strong team around him.

I hope Sabres hire Gorts then maybe Dolan won't deal with Buffalo for Eichel

 

[Ola]

Eichel would have Panarin, Laf, Buch, Kreider, Fox, Lindgren, Igor, Trouba, Miller, etc etc to work with versus what he had in Buffalo which was. . . ? Dahlin and Reinhart? Like gimme a break lmao.

Didn’t change much in Buffalo when they got Hall to play with Eichel. OK if they wasn’t a contender, but they were basically the worst team in the league.

I can guarantee that even if we got Eichel and a couple of tougher players (with something going out at least, say Ziba) it doesn’t change a thing, probably makes us worse the first quarter of next season because Eichel don’t have chemistry with anyone. This is a team game and we haven’t been built properly the last years.

The only thing that will improve us if we start to focus on the right things, are prepared all across the board, no oversights, and get everyone on board with the right mindset. Getting a big name won’t change a thing by itself.

 

[Ola]

I still worry more about the speed of the group (probably "playing fast" more than skating, but both) than I do about physicality.

And I mean, the two definitely 100% goes hand in hand. Having tough players has nothing to do with being a hard team to play against. EDM went out and got Lucic, Kassian, Maroon and co, they were never hard to play against. If Islanders get any of those three, they would be pain.

What enables a team to be able to make use of their physical players and be hard to play against? It’s just ability to take the play to the other team. These guys are super ineffective when they are forced to chase the puck up and down the ice. They are instantly exposed.

Ultimately it’s all about balance, you got players that enables the tough guys as well as the tough guys. This balance is really hard to reach, but you don’t got much room for players that don’t fit into either cathegory above. We have too many of that type.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Eichel would have Panarin, Laf, Buch, Kreider, Fox, Lindgren, Igor, Trouba, Miller, etc etc to work with versus what he had in Buffalo which was. . . ? Dahlin and Reinhart? Like gimme a break lmao.

Its unlikely we keep all those pieces if we trade for Eichel. One will def go to Buffalo as part of the trade and another one will be a cap casualty at minimum.

 

[rangersfansince08]

I don't think the Rangers will go full Defcon 1 and trade everyone for Eichel. Drury is still here. I got a lot of texts about that today.

There will be some changes and vets with playoff experience brought in. I think Buch, Strome, and possibly Mika and Chytil will be moved.

Some of the LHD prospects like Robertson and Reunnenan will not be back.

We are going to trade away out top 3 centers?

 

[Vitto79]

How did Hajek get drafted in the 2nd round? And what the hell did our scouts like so much about him when they traded for him?

Howden was 1st round so think about that one !

Hopefully Lundkvist saves that deal

I could see both Hajek and Howden gone next year

 

[Vitto79]

I would very seriously try to move the Kreider contract this summer. Buch can stay if that happens. I’m fine with moving Chytil to address a need. If Kreider can’t be moved, I’d see what a package of Chytil + Buch + Jones can get you.

Jones has been nice but our blue line would be pretty small with Fox, Lundkvist and Jones. I’d wager on Lundkvist being the superior all around player and puck mover so I’d make Jones available after his show case. Unless they move Lundkvist and feel Schneider is ready-ish.

Gauthier just isn’t going to be given a chance here. Howden’s time is up. The Blackwell experiment should be over. Thank you for your service, honestly, great year but I’m not pencilling him into a full time slot. Rooney can stay or be 13th forward.

One of Kreider/Buch (and I’d keep Buch 100/100 times) has to go and someone with a hard nosed energetic game has to come in. Doesn’t have to be hit machine, but hard nosed, hard driving. Strome has earned his spot but if we can upgrade from a 60-70 point Strome to a 55+ point defensive responsible, more versatile center, I’d like to.

I think we see a major move

Chytil , Strome , Jones , 1st rounder all on the table

guys like Hajek , Howden , Gauthier likely move on

they need a top C, vet LD and now some grit apparently

 

[duhmetreE]

Does this mean ADA might be back next season? With JD, Gorts and Quinn gone?

My mind cant comprehend any of this

 

[haohmaru]

I've been watching the Rangers since the late 70's and yesterday is certainly the weirdest day that I've ever seen.

It's concerning that Dolan isn't looking for a President - Drury is a "rookie" GM - he doesn't need both jobs to start out and is going to need a buffer and someone to bounce things off of. You have to think, too, that Dolan is putting his hands in the pot and likelihood of an Eichel deal just went up. A lot.

 

[rangersfansince08]

I've been watching the Rangers since the late 70's and yesterday is certainly the weirdest day that I've ever seen.

It's concerning that Dolan isn't looking for a President - Drury is a "rookie" GM - he doesn't need both jobs to start out and is going to need a buffer and someone to bounce things off of. You have to think, too, that Dolan is putting his hands in the pot and likelihood of an Eichel deal just went up. A lot.

Kakko, Fox, Laf, Panarin and Igor are the only untouchables to me.

 

[duhmetreE]

My Bern inspired fire round

Zibs to FLA for Lundell and maybe Bennett
Buch to EDM for Holloway
Trade for Copp. Don’t know what it would take tbh
sign some vets who are winners and alphas

 

[East Coast Bias]

I never thought I would say this, but if his health issues aren’t serious and long term, I would be all over Toews. He’s exactly the type of player we need

 

[AlaBlueShirt]

I never thought I would say this, but if his health issues aren’t serious and long term, I would be all over Toews. He’s exactly the type of player we need

Need some winning veterans in the building. From what Ive heard that back in the day when Chicago was dominating coach Q literally was just hanging around there, the leadership was so strong.

 

[CLW]

My Bern inspired fire round

Zibs to FLA for Lundell and maybe Bennett
Buch to EDM for Holloway
Trade for Copp. Don’t know what it would take tbh
sign some vets who are winners and alphas

We just changed trade focus from the Lundells and Holloways to gritty vets. That's what the firing of Gorton means. The day of more kids are over. Win now started yesterday.

Forget about any careful long term plans. Immediate impact is imperative. People want to trade Zib, but his offensive production is not easily replaced. Eichel is younger but his injury concerns and contract are even bigger than Zibs. Strome has a weak two way game and doesn't really hit.

One or two of Kakko/Buch/Kravtsov will be dealt.

One or two of Miller/Lundkvist/Jones will be dealt.

One or two of Zib/Strome/Chytil will be dealt. Maybe all three over the next season or two.

There are young talented players out there that Drury can target but the price just went UP because Dolan meddled. Opposing GMs know Drury is in a squeeze with an impatient, volatile owner breathing whiskey fumes down his neck.

 

[leetch99]

OK....I am kind of past it now and calmed down a bit . Anyways....I don't think it is the time to make any foolish moves and trade some guys too soon before they are fully in bloom . KK-Kravs-Laf-Barron all will be better next season......Chytil ...who knows ? Buch....bye bye unless you find taker for CK . Miss Gauthier GONE....Strome or Chytil tough decisions ahead . Mika .....tough decision but I think it is best if he is gone . Great regular season guy but a wilting rose possibly in a hard fought playoff series if the last two games are an indicator .

I think we build on our wingers and maybe live with two B like Cmen unless the right deal appears . Move out PDG-Howden and add some muscle on that 4th line and retain Rooney and Blackwell as the muscle does not need to play every game if we have Chara on the backend as the 7th D and 2nd unit PP crease owner .

One more season...or at least half of it....keep the kids around for it and then make the moves. Get a new coach.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

My Bern inspired fire round

Zibs to FLA for Lundell and maybe Bennett
Buch to EDM for Holloway
Trade for Copp. Don’t know what it would take tbh
sign some vets who are winners and alphas

Going full bern

Zibanejad to VGS for Krebs+Nosek
Buchnevich to FLA to Lundell+Bennett
Chytil+Robertson+Miller+1st to BUF for Eichel
Sign Oleksiak

Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Lafrenière-Eichel-Kravtsov
Kreider-Lundell-Bennett
Barron-Rooney-Nosek

Lindgren-Fox
Oleksiak-Lundkvist
Jones-Trouba

 

[jay from jersey]

Its unlikely we keep all those pieces if we trade for Eichel. One will def go to Buffalo as part of the trade and another one will be a cap casualty at minimum.

It’s a moot point. No one dealing for Eichel until he proves he’s healed with no underlying factors. At least a year away imo.

I just keep thinking what if it was Torts behind the bench. He’s crazy enough he might have jumped out on the ice swinging a stick. The message is pretty clear right now. Teams can physically dominate our current team into submission and our coach is not very good at the moment. We should have traded for Bennett, they should sign Goodrow, he wins face offs and plays with edge. Our top 6 is already pretty full. So i would sign goodrow and start identifying youngsters to fill out the bottom 6 with the abrasive type element we’re lacking

 

[Ola]

OK....I am kind of past it now and calmed down a bit . Anyways....I don't think it is the time to make any foolish moves and trade some guys too soon before they are fully in bloom . KK-Kravs-Laf-Barron all will be better next season......Chytil ...who knows ? Buch....bye bye unless you find taker for CK . Miss Gauthier GONE....Strome or Chytil tough decisions ahead . Mika .....tough decision but I think it is best if he is gone . Great regular season guy but a wilting rose possibly in a hard fought playoff series if the last two games are an indicator .

I think we build on our wingers and maybe live with two B like Cmen unless the right deal appears . Move out PDG-Howden and add some muscle on that 4th line and retain Rooney and Blackwell as the muscle does not need to play every game if we have Chara on the backend as the 7th D and 2nd unit PP crease owner .

One more season...or at least half of it....keep the kids around for it and then make the moves. Get a new coach.

Great post, I agree basically all the way.

 

[Tob]

I don't think we're in that much danger of bad trades. Glen Sather is involved in the process to "guide" Drury. Glen is likely the voice in Dolan's ears in the last 2-3 years and will be able to handle Dolan. Glen isn't stupid enough to buy on crap. I think Drury has put in the work with the organization and has earned himself enough trust to be able to have the summer to find the pieces Dolan wants to LOOK like a bigger and more ready team. There's always throwing money at UFAs. Luckily the market should be cheap.

 

[Rangerboy030]

Going full bern

Zibanejad to VGS for Krebs+Nosek
Buchnevich to FLA to Lundell+Bennett
Chytil+Robertson+Miller+1st to BUF for Eichel
Sign Oleksiak

Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Lafrenière-Eichel-Kravtsov
Kreider-Lundell-Bennett
Barron-Rooney-Nosek

Lindgren-Fox
Oleksiak-Lundkvist
Jones-Trouba

I... don't hate it? Except for the Zibby trade - he should be worth more than that.

 

[dshea19]

Going full bern

Zibanejad to VGS for Krebs+Nosek
Buchnevich to FLA to Lundell+Bennett
Chytil+Robertson+Miller+1st to BUF for Eichel
Sign Oleksiak

Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Lafrenière-Eichel-Kravtsov
Kreider-Lundell-Bennett
Barron-Rooney-Nosek

Lindgren-Fox
Oleksiak-Lundkvist
Jones-Trouba

Probably one of the few scenarios I have read where I actually think to myself, "that could really work."

 

[NYSPORTS]

Going full bern

Zibanejad to VGS for Krebs+Nosek
Buchnevich to FLA to Lundell+Bennett
Chytil+Robertson+Miller+1st to BUF for Eichel
Sign Oleksiak

Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Lafrenière-Eichel-Kravtsov
Kreider-Lundell-Bennett
Barron-Rooney-Nosek

Lindgren-Fox
Oleksiak-Lundkvist
Jones-Trouba

lundell - shocker

 

[Doctyl]

The boner some people get for ADA is bizarre

 

[WojtekWolski86]

The thing that I fear the most...if it's true Dolan wanted better results then there is pressure on Drury, a young exec, to make moves. Our kids need another year to get their feet wet and I fear Amonte and Savard type trades because our owner wants to win now.