SingnBluesOnBroadway
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He’s had a change of scenery last year. Not sure there are teams lining up for him unless they can try to dump a contract on the Rangers.
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Sayba
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He played 5 games for the Hurricanes and was essentially a prospect included in a trade. I wouldn't consider that a change of scenery.
I’m with you on this one edge. If the kid has size, wheels, and talent and you gave up an damn good exp exempt asset to get him in Keane, wouldn’t they at least try to give him 10-15 game string at once with some talent around him to see what you have before potentially losing him for nothing?? I don’t think he’s horrible defensively and he’s shown progress in his offensive game in the limited time he’s had. I don’t like it one bit. Bad asset management
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egelband
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Yep. Unless they totally screwed the pooch in terms of evaluation, Gauthier is still the same guy they traded for. I can only hope they have a plan...
Shesterkybomb
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Im not sold on Gauthier really, i think there's a reason he got moved from Carolina after only playing 5 games for the big club. He's fast, big(doesn't really use it), doesn't pk, isn't good enough to pp, isn't defensively responsible for a bottom six role, isn't good enough offensively for a top 6 role. He's basically Boo Nieves without the pk ability. I said it early in the year that he needed to carve a niche for himself and abandon his hope of being a goal scorer in the nhl because he just isn't good enough. As much as people slack on Howden and Rooney they both had the brains to adapt to fill holes on the pk to keep themselves in the lineup. Julien needs to watch Kakko and how he plays and model his game after that defensively.
I saw some nice flashes from Gauthier. You can second guess his acquisition all day long but a lot sure has changed since he was acquired. He’s a solid prospect and I would guess that the Rangers will have a market to move him before the expansion draft.
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Save our assets for McDavid
81 points in 46 games is pretty good
81 points in 46 games is pretty good
Our message to Gauthier when we traded for him was to play big, use his size. He has started to drive to the net a bit more.
But I’ve said it before, I don’t quite buy the ‘excuse’ that someone like him ‘is not a physical player’. He just needs to be more aggressive on the ice and get more involved.
But I’ve said it before, I don’t quite buy the ‘excuse’ that someone like him ‘is not a physical player’. He just needs to be more aggressive on the ice and get more involved.
Pavel Buchnevich became a PKer, which I am sure no one saw coming, why can’t Gauthier?
In a developmental year I never saw him given the opportunity to he even show he was capable. I see these excuses that he doesn’t do this or doesn’t do that, which I don’t believe to be true, but yet Howden doesn’t do a ton of shit and he gets opportunity after opportunity. There is a clear double standard here. It is so hard for a player to do anything, show anything, get into a rhythm, when he is getting 8 minutes per night. Do you not realize how little of ice time that is in the grand scheme of a 60 minute game? Everything becomes magnified for you personally, you breathe wrong and you have had a bad game.
We have Howden belligerently making mistakes offensively and even defensively. We are trying to sort out what we have in our cupboard. Like @Edge said I have seen enough of Gauthier to want to see more. That should be enough to get back in the lineup. He plays with jump and energy that comes naturally with his skating ability. But the coach refuses to play him again.
In a developmental year I never saw him given the opportunity to he even show he was capable. I see these excuses that he doesn’t do this or doesn’t do that, which I don’t believe to be true, but yet Howden doesn’t do a ton of shit and he gets opportunity after opportunity. There is a clear double standard here. It is so hard for a player to do anything, show anything, get into a rhythm, when he is getting 8 minutes per night. Do you not realize how little of ice time that is in the grand scheme of a 60 minute game? Everything becomes magnified for you personally, you breathe wrong and you have had a bad game.
We have Howden belligerently making mistakes offensively and even defensively. We are trying to sort out what we have in our cupboard. Like @Edge said I have seen enough of Gauthier to want to see more. That should be enough to get back in the lineup. He plays with jump and energy that comes naturally with his skating ability. But the coach refuses to play him again.
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I really would like to see the discussion, if there was any transparency regarding the practice. What are they actually practicing?
FWIW in the Gauthier discussion, Joey Keane has regressed this season, so at least it doesn’t seem to have been a bad trade.
We all expect more from Gauthier than what he’s delivered. Maybe what we expect, he isn’t capable of.
So far, it reminds me of how McIlrath was handled. We all clamored for him getting more icetime, but once a team finally gave him that icetime we all realized why he wasn’t getting it here.
We all expect more from Gauthier than what he’s delivered. Maybe what we expect, he isn’t capable of.
So far, it reminds me of how McIlrath was handled. We all clamored for him getting more icetime, but once a team finally gave him that icetime we all realized why he wasn’t getting it here.
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Kocur Dill
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His skill set seems to me middle 6 or bust. He either can't process or refuses to play a style that is what NHL coaches want out of a forth line player. To that, if he were given the time and we didn't have Blackwell all season nor Kravtsov here now, Gooch looked to be progressing and possible fill in as a 3rw. Its just not in the cards for him hear IMO. Our Raw depth is stunted his career, and he isn't cut out for 4RW.
Time to cut bait.
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pld459666
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Therein lies the problem.
Either you are that type of player, or you are not.
Hes clearly NOT that type of player so its never going to be a consistent thing for him.
You can't coach guys into being physical players. They have to want to be that.
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Expansion Mock Draft on the Athletic:
Mock expansion draft 6.0: For the Seattle Kraken, now it’s getting real
There are actually 2 mocks here. The first was done by Eric Duhatschek (the writer of the article) and Ryan S. Clark, who reports on the Kraken for the Athletic.
Duhatschek's Ranger pick:
No mention of Gauthier, who will be exposed if Blackwell is protected. Also remember that if we protect Blackwell, we have to sign someone prior to the expansion draft to meet the exposure requirements. We have to expose 2 forwards who meet the games played criteria and are under contract for next year. Right now, only Strome, Blackwell and Rooney meet both requirements. PDG, Gauthier and Howden all meet the games played requirement, so if we re-sign any of them prior to the expansion draft, then we'll know that we are protecting Blackwell.
Clark's pick:
So they are both in agreement that Howden will be the pick.
If Gauthier is still around after the expansion draft, we will have the following winger options: Panarin, Kreider, Laf, Buch, Kakko, Kravtsov, Gauthier. Gauthier isn't a 4th liner, so again he will be without a role unless we move someone.
Mock expansion draft 6.0: For the Seattle Kraken, now it’s getting real
There are actually 2 mocks here. The first was done by Eric Duhatschek (the writer of the article) and Ryan S. Clark, who reports on the Kraken for the Athletic.
Duhatschek's Ranger pick:
No mention of Gauthier, who will be exposed if Blackwell is protected. Also remember that if we protect Blackwell, we have to sign someone prior to the expansion draft to meet the exposure requirements. We have to expose 2 forwards who meet the games played criteria and are under contract for next year. Right now, only Strome, Blackwell and Rooney meet both requirements. PDG, Gauthier and Howden all meet the games played requirement, so if we re-sign any of them prior to the expansion draft, then we'll know that we are protecting Blackwell.
Clark's pick:
So they are both in agreement that Howden will be the pick.
If Gauthier is still around after the expansion draft, we will have the following winger options: Panarin, Kreider, Laf, Buch, Kakko, Kravtsov, Gauthier. Gauthier isn't a 4th liner, so again he will be without a role unless we move someone.
Oscar Lindberg
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We would only be so lucky if the team A exposes Howden and B he gets chosen
Too bad that’s the right move plus Barron needs a shot
True, but looking at the other divisions we would have qualified so I believe that we are a bottom rung playoff team quality team now. Next year I think we can steal a round and at least look the part, and then The sky is the limit. I’m thinking that if we can’t solve that 2C puzzle and keep Mika at the same time then maybe having Strome as 2C on his next contract at 6-6.5 if not the worst thing in the world. Chytil hasn’t shown he’s ready to take over yet. Look at me I’m a RyanStrome apologist!
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No idea, but it isn't the end of the world if it works out that way. If Blackwell doesn't play, Kravtsov will likely start with Panarin and Strome and whoever fills in will be stapled to the 4th line.
bleedblue94
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Has anyone considered that part of why goat isn't playing right now is so they can try to sneak him through the ED? I mean we all say we saw signs of a potential player developing, is it possible NYR did as well and figure lets see if we can keep developing him in practice and such, sneak him through and plan to plug him in a regular 4 line role next year? I know it could be far fetched, but they have the depth right now to play games like that once everyone got healthy and VK came over. Keep showcasing Howden and get him out of here...
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I think the Strome Bad narrative needs to be over at this point. He's been legitimately good this year.
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I was actually thinking that earlier when I was posting about the mock draft. They could protect him if they wanted to though, so I'm not sure it's worth playing that game unless they firmly believe that Seattle will take Blackwell if they leave him exposed. Blackwell has been a good Fast replacement for us, and at a much cheaper price (relatively speaking).
At this point it isn’t a bad strome narrative, but a what does he want for his next contract because no one assumes he stays at 4.5m.
If he takes a small raise for 4-5 years, say closer to 5-6m then i don’t think anyone has a problem.
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