Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXX: Going 8-0 to close out might not be enough!

[smoneil]

Panarin and Strome should (and I think they are totally capable) be able to carry ANYONE as the other wing on their line. Anyone in the league, even Howden.

As a total dweeb outsider, I cannot fathom how Kravtsov or Kakko not moving up helps the team prepare better for next year. The Bruins need to have their entire top line get the long 'vid for the Rangers to have a real shot here, c'mon with this cute grinder crap on the 2nd line.

The issue is that Quinn has had it in his head since Fast walked that that line needs a garbageman to do the dirty work. That's why I've been a little indifferent on that spot--whoever plays there is going to be asked to play a limited game, a secondary role on the line in service to the other two guys. Panarin and Strome need to be split up. Put Chytil and Kakko with Panarin, and then put Strome between Kreider and Kravtsov. It makes those two middle six lines much more balanced.

 

[kovazub94]

Can't find myself irritated about Gauthier at this point, since it's pretty clear that he's on his way out.

Yup. And it’s not like the Rangers have a big need for a depth winger. Big adoo about nothing.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Funny to look back on before the season when I was even mildly concerned about which of Gauthier, Howden, or Hajek would be selected for expansion.

 

[Sayba]

Can't find myself irritated about Gauthier at this point, since it's pretty clear that he's on his way out.

He shouldn't be is the point. He can be an effective 3rd line / 4th line RW. The coach is like manager at work, they have something fixed in their mind and regardless of results they are going to what they have fixated on.

 

[rangers1314]

I can't imagine that Goats agent hasn't approach GMJG about a change of scenery for his client this summer.

 

[DialUp]

The issue is that Quinn has had it in his head since Fast walked that that line needs a garbageman to do the dirty work. That's why I've been a little indifferent on that spot--whoever plays there is going to be asked to play a limited game, a secondary role on the line in service to the other two guys. Panarin and Strome need to be split up. Put Chytil and Kakko with Panarin, and then put Strome between Kreider and Kravtsov. It makes those two middle six lines much more balanced.

If the team has plans on keeping Strome next year, yeah that sounds like something to try.

 

[Edge]

I can't imagine that Goats agent hasn't approach GMJG about a change of scenery for his client this summer.

It worked out well for Lemieux.

 

[rangers1314]

It worked out well from Lemieux.

haha well true, but Goats been in the press box for weeks.

 

[DutchShamrock]

That's what gets lost in the conversation with his contract. Two weeks after he signed, Bill Daly said the cap could potentially go to 88.2 million. Then two weeks later sports shuts down. It's insane to suggest that Gorts should have anticipated a unprecedented worldwide pandemic when considering Kreider's long term future with the team.

Covid was raging for months before the TDL. They buried their heads in the sand. No one should get fired for lack of foresight but it's not like the circumstances sprung up after the fact. Gorton spent money he didn't have yet ultimately.

 

[Edge]

My feelings on Blackwell are documented, so I won't beat a dead horse.

I would prefer to be taking a look at Gauthier in a bottom six role right now.

Gauthier could be the next Etem or Jensen. That's a distinct possibility.

But I feel like I've seen enough to at least want to see a bit more.

 

[True Blue]

Can't find myself irritated about Gauthier at this point, since it's pretty clear that he's on his way out.

I just think that when the musical chairs stop, he is going to be unable to find a seat. Would I rather see him than Howden? Yes. Is it really a big deal? Not even a little bit.

 

[jay from jersey]

I can't imagine that Goats agent hasn't approach GMJG about a change of scenery for his client this summer.

If I’m Gauthier I ask to be traded this offseason if he’s not picked by seattle. He’s not going to get top 9 ice time here for a meaningful clip of games strung together

 

[IDvsEGO]

If I’m Gauthier I ask to be traded this offseason if he’s not picked by seattle. He’s not going to get top 9 ice time here for a meaningful clip of games strung together

Injuries do happen, but I don’t disagree.

 

[Kaapo Bustfreniere]

Don't do that here man it'll completely derail this thread.

As if that poster has ever written something constructive

 

[BroadwayHustle]

My feelings on Blackwell are documented, so I won't beat a dead horse.

I would prefer to be taking a look at Gauthier in a bottom six role right now.

Gauthier could be the next Etem or Jensen. That's a distinct possibility.

But I feel like I've seen enough to at least want to see a bit more.

He absolutely should be getting time. The improvement from early in the season towards the end was tremendous. We saw a player start going to the net more often and finding some more space to get his shot off. He might not ever become a full time player, but we should absolutely be giving him a chance to be a solution here.

We could potentially have a 4th line next season with some combination of Rooney/Barron/Gauthier - big, strong 4th line with two centers and some skill. Blackwell has been a nice surprise, but if we got something in return for him I think everyone would be ecstatic.

 

[JohnC]

Covid was raging for months before the TDL. They buried their heads in the sand. No one should get fired for lack of foresight but it's not like the circumstances sprung up after the fact. Gorton spent money he didn't have yet ultimately.

I'd say this is a bit of revisionist history. The US hardly took the virus seriously until the NBA paused on 3/12, two weeks after the trade deadline.

If you thought the virus was going to put the world on hold the way it did on the February 24th trade deadline, I'd probably call you a liar.

 

[DutchShamrock]

I'd say this is a bit of revisionist history. The US hardly took the virus seriously until the NBA paused on 3/12, two weeks after the trade deadline.

If you thought the virus was going to put the world on hold the way it did on the February 24th trade deadline, I'd probably call you a liar.

I'm not suggesting I predicted the shut down. Europe was shutting down games, though, and I remember when Daly announced the projection I was hoping for the best.

But I do distinctly remember saying we shouldn't just spend to cap because it's there. I definitely used the phrase "save for a rainy day"and again, this is nitpicking minor points of my argument. The Kreider deal meant Buch was leaving sooner than later the day it was inked. It was discussed right after. Not a choice I would have made.

Too bad this site is falling apart or I could successfully search some of those threads.

 

[JohnC]

I'm not suggesting I predicted the shut down. Europe was shutting down games, though, and I remember when Daly announced the projection I was hoping for the best.

But I do distinctly remember saying we shouldn't just spend to cap because it's there. I definitely used the phrase "save for a rainy day"and again, this is nitpicking minor points of my argument. The Kreider deal meant Buch was leaving sooner than later the day it was inked. It was discussed right after. Not a choice I would have made.

Too bad this site is falling apart or I could successfully search some of those threads.

You won’t get any arguments from me, I wasn’t for extending Kreider even with a rising cap.

I don’t think Buch was in their equation at all when it came to making the decision though. Buch was 30 seconds away from being traded at the draft, months before Kreider was extended. Right or wrong, he clearly hasn’t been in the team’s long term plan.

 

[jay from jersey]

I'm not suggesting I predicted the shut down. Europe was shutting down games, though, and I remember when Daly announced the projection I was hoping for the best.

But I do distinctly remember saying we shouldn't just spend to cap because it's there. I definitely used the phrase "save for a rainy day"and again, this is nitpicking minor points of my argument. The Kreider deal meant Buch was leaving sooner than later the day it was inked. It was discussed right after. Not a choice I would have made.

Too bad this site is falling apart or I could successfully search some of those threads.

This if you all remember correctly kreids was TSN s number 1 trade target that year. Buch was like number 11. Kreids was playing the best hockey of his career until he hurt his ankle. Then when they came back he looked like ass like most of the team. Buch was offered in trades going up 2 years prior as well. One to Edmonton and one to try and get the Zergas pick. And that’s all we know of publicly right now. There could have been more

 

[duhmetreE]

Boston 9 games remaining; 4pts ahead
NYI 8 games remaining; 7pts ahead

NYR 7-0 | BOS 5-4 | NYI 3-5
NYR 6-1 | BOS 4-5 | NYI 2-6

Possible?

Obviously need to win our head 2 heads with them. Their makeup game on the 10th can be a deciding factor.

 

[Fitzy]

The remaining schedules for Boston and The Islanders are too easy for any hope at all. Too many games against NJD and Buffalo.

 

[pld459666]

Can't find myself irritated about Gauthier at this point, since it's pretty clear that he's on his way out.

I don't see much in him anyway.

 

[Chytilmania]

Boston 9 games remaining; 4pts ahead
NYI 8 games remaining; 7pts ahead

NYR 7-0 | BOS 5-4 | NYI 3-5
NYR 6-1 | BOS 4-5 | NYI 2-6

Possible?

Obviously need to win our head 2 heads with them. Their makeup game on the 10th can be a deciding factor.

Damn, that 6-1 L is killing us.

 

[DudMan28]

Even if we can't catch them, being within striking distance of Boston for those two games would be a hell of a learning experience for the kids.

You want to talk about a playoff type game? Doesn't get much closer than that in the regular season.

 

[egelband]

He absolutely should be getting time. The improvement from early in the season towards the end was tremendous. We saw a player start going to the net more often and finding some more space to get his shot off. He might not ever become a full time player, but we should absolutely be giving him a chance to be a solution here.

We could potentially have a 4th line next season with some combination of Rooney/Barron/Gauthier - big, strong 4th line with two centers and some skill. Blackwell has been a nice surprise, but if we got something in return for him I think everyone would be ecstatic.

Yep. There’s no rule that the fourth line can’t score. It’s just that in general there’s not that much talent to go around so you use the fourth line as a fixit kit. If you’ve got a fourth line that can score, they’ll hit some seriously juicy matchups regularly and be productive. If all your lines are better than all the opponents lines, you don’t really need defensive specialists.

(I appreciate that this is a broad and over-simplified statement, but I think you all understand what I mean).