Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXI

[Vitto79]

I hope Hank gets healthy ASAP but not gonna lie my first reaction was if he just retired all that lover would be off the cap. I’m a bad msn !

 

[leetch99]

I hope Hank gets healthy ASAP but not gonna lie my first reaction was if he just retired all that lover would be off the cap. I’m a bad msn !

Seriously doubt if he is having any kind of a heart issue and his age and type of work where his age is already a HUGE factor...that he ever dons an NHL jersey again . I won't say that is a lock but I think chances are his family will weigh in here and the Cap legacy will be ended...I'm not sure of what his problems are with his heart....but hopefully he gets his remedied and lives a normal life after...sometimes that does not always work out.....that I know first hand from my own personal experiences the last 3 years . The good news is that they are aware and are working on things. Break a leg King Henrik .

 

[Ola]

That Lundqvist news is brutal, couldn't he have found this out a couple months ago

It’s surely a change of doctor thing, our guys didn’t spot it while Washington’s did. Can’t imagine he “developed” a heart condition over the summer.

Second time our guys didn’t spot a heart condition...

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

It’s surely a change of doctor thing, our guys didn’t spot it while Washington’s did. Can’t imagine he “developed” a heart condition over the summer.

Second time our guys didn’t spot a heart condition...

Im sorry dude, but this is so f***ing stupid.


Heart conditions CAN develop on their own. We should just be glad that they caught it and are working towards doing something about it.

These guys get checked by people outside of the organization as well. Guess we should chastise them for missing it too.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Interesting to see how long it takes for Hàjek, Georgiev and Chytil to acquire a new work visa.

Hàjek and Chytil had a 3-year visa which expired before they hit RFA status due to the slide year.

 

[Ola]

Im sorry dude, but this is so f***ing stupid.

Heart conditions CAN develop on their own. We should just be glad that they caught it and are working towards doing something about it.

These guys get checked by people outside of the organization as well. Guess we should chastise them for missing it too.

Link? I’ve never heard of anyone that developed a heart condition over a summer. If it’s common knowledge that heart problems usually develop over a span of a few months when you are otherwise healthy, it’s news to me. To my knowledge it’s usually an existing underlying problem that deteriorate over time.

It “can” of course be anything, and it is of course dependent on what type of condition he got. But are you telling me that it’s 100% a coincidence that this was spotted once he changed doctors? I am not saying that it is or that it isn’t, but it doesn’t seem far fetched that isnt a coincidence.

 

[broadwayblue]

Link? I’ve never heard of anyone that developed a heart condition over a summer. If it’s common knowledge that heart problems usually develop over a span of a few months when you are otherwise healthy, it’s news to me. To my knowledge it’s usually an existing underlying problem that deteriorate over time.

It “can” of course be anything, and it is of course dependent on what type of condition he got. But are you telling me that it’s 100% a coincidence that this was spotted once he changed doctors? I am not saying that it is or that it isn’t, but it doesn’t seem far fetched that isnt a coincidence.

It's certainly possible. Even Covid can cause it.

More than half of patients studied who had COVID-19 were found to have ongoing cardiac inflammation. A growing number of studies suggest many COVID-19 survivors experience some type of heart damage, even if they didn't have underlying heart disease and weren't sick enough to be hospitalized.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Lafreniere still doesn't feel real, the guy is so good that in NHL 20 when I won the draft lottery I traded him away because I like keeping my team somewhat realistic to what our roster will look like, and he was just too good to be true

 

[huerter]

That nonsense was based around a series of months long conversations between two teams that ultimately got shelved for the time being due to league-wide (and global) uncertainty. But it also kept the door open for the draft day trade that saw the Rangers move up three spots.

What players were Washington and Calgary discussing that kept the door open for their draft day trade?

 

[huerter]

Link? I’ve never heard of anyone that developed a heart condition over a summer. If it’s common knowledge that heart problems usually develop over a span of a few months when you are otherwise healthy, it’s news to me. To my knowledge it’s usually an existing underlying problem that deteriorate over time.

It “can” of course be anything, and it is of course dependent on what type of condition he got. But are you telling me that it’s 100% a coincidence that this was spotted once he changed doctors? I am not saying that it is or that it isn’t, but it doesn’t seem far fetched that isnt a coincidence.

Same thing happened with Jaylen Brantley.

 

[RGY]

What players were Washington and Calgary discussing that kept the door open for their draft day trade?

What is the point of this nonsensical post?

 

[Kovalev27]

Im sorry dude, but this is so f***ing stupid.


Heart conditions CAN develop on their own. We should just be glad that they caught it and are working towards doing something about it.

These guys get checked by people outside of the organization as well. Guess we should chastise them for missing it too.

hanks been practicing for months

Link? I’ve never heard of anyone that developed a heart condition over a summer. If it’s common knowledge that heart problems usually develop over a span of a few months when you are otherwise healthy, it’s news to me. To my knowledge it’s usually an existing underlying problem that deteriorate over time.

It “can” of course be anything, and it is of course dependent on what type of condition he got. But are you telling me that it’s 100% a coincidence that this was spotted once he changed doctors? I am not saying that it is or that it isn’t, but it doesn’t seem far fetched that isnt a coincidence.

Ola these takes are just awful. Lol

 

[Edge]

What players were Washington and Calgary discussing that kept the door open for their draft day trade?

I have no idea, in this case I only know the Rangers end of Calgary's talks.

At various points, those conversations have included Skjei, Buchnevich, Andersson, picks, and ADA.

 

[huerter]

What is the point of this nonsensical post?

Calgary made two draft day trades to move down. With us and with Washington. Edge is leading us to believe that while our trade talks involving Monahan and Lindholm didn't come to fruition, the dialogue laid the groundwork for the Rangers and Flames to link up as the draft was unfolding. A reasonable leap from this logic would be that the Capitals and Flames also had prior dialogue in a grander sense (i.e. involving roster players) that kept both of their doors open as the draft was unfolding. If this was not the case, and the Caps and Flames just connected out of the blue at the 11th hour, then that lends credence to the idea that the Rangers and Flames could have done the same, meaning that they did not have any trade discussions involving the aforementioned roster players. Moreover, it could be that there were significant trade discussions but they were not essential to formulating a draft day trade.

So my question was - did Washington and Calgary have any material trade discussions leading up to the draft that opened their doors amid the draft?

Hope this helps.

 

[Ola]

Ola these takes are just awful. Lol

Nah, look, this is actually pretty common. You guys are just ignorant to this. One player plays at one place for a long time. The doctors and teams get to know him and listen to him more than performing top to bottom tests. Then the player changes teams and the new team perform a complete scan from top to bottom and spots something and boom the career is over. I know of many examples, players returning from NA to Europe and can’t get a green light. Soccer players changing teams. Acquiring team spots something and walks away from the acquisition.

Also, these things aren’t black and white. One example is Linus Hultstrom. He passed the tests in the SHL and could play. Signed with Florida and they wouldn’t let him on the ice. He returned and is still playing in Europe. I’ve heard his agent say that many NHL teams would let him play, but Florida wouldn’t “gamble” on it.

Odds are that it’s a classic ‘new doctor’ situation. It’s not surprising that something like this comes out of no where when a player changes teams. More in-depth tests are made to get to know the new guy and something is spotted that otherwise probably could have brewed under the surface for years.

 

[Levitate]

If you didnt' even know that myocarditis could be caused by viral infections and such then maybe stop talking out your ass

 

[Ola]

Same thing happened with Jaylen Brantley.

Yeah, there are a ton of examples. And another reason for it is just, four eyes will catch things two misses.

I think I phrased my first post a little poorly. But the ‘new doctor’ thing is something you hear about every now and then.

 

[Ola]

Would love to get Chara BTW. Would be a great mentor. Help Laf and Kakko, give them some comfort. Teach the younger Ds.

 

[Ola]

If you didnt' even know that myocarditis could be caused by viral infections and such then maybe stop talking out your ass

Lol, why are you attacking me? And just change tone, I don’t have to accept that kind of language.

I wrote “when you are otherwise healthy”. Can you have a viral infection that causes heart problems and still have been “healthy”? Sorry if that is the case, I’ve heard of people getting this when they were knocked out really bad. But just correct me, that a hole attitude is just so old.

It’s common on sports that things are spotted when players changes teams, there is an increased risk. Is it really that super controversial to point that out?

 

[jay from jersey]

I wouldn’t call the back half of the 3rd round a “top pick”. Duclair was playing well at the time and earned the opportunity. It was also good timing for a showcase.

He is just not interested in the defensive side of the game and doesn’t look like he cares to learn it either. No big loss. Shame cause the kid def has hands and wheels. It was a problem for him on the coyotes and a huge problem for torts and the jackets. He will forever be a guy that puts up pretty good O numbers on bad teams. No one in their right mind is going to win or be a winning team with him in a top 6 heavy duty role, and his talents offensively are better then a 3rd or 4th line player. His career will he stuck in that limbo for the foreseeable future and at his age I don’t think defense is just going to click for him. He’s a finished product, what you see is what you get.

 

[Edge]

Calgary made two draft day trades to move down. With us and with Washington. Edge is leading us to believe that while our trade talks involving Monahan and Lindholm didn't come to fruition, the dialogue laid the groundwork for the Rangers and Flames to link up as the draft was unfolding. A reasonable leap from this logic would be that the Capitals and Flames also had prior dialogue in a grander sense (i.e. involving roster players) that kept both of their doors open as the draft was unfolding. If this was not the case, and the Caps and Flames just connected out of the blue at the 11th hour, then that lends credence to the idea that the Rangers and Flames could have done the same, meaning that they did not have any trade discussions involving the aforementioned roster players. Moreover, it could be that there were significant trade discussions but they were not essential to formulating a draft day trade.

So my question was - did Washington and Calgary have any material trade discussions leading up to the draft that opened their doors amid the draft?

Hope this helps.

Not necessarily though.

Washington and Calgary could've been discussing a larger deal.

Or they could've touched based about draft positions prior to the draft.

Or they could've touched base after the initial trade, as part of Washington's due dilligence to see if they could land a player they identified.

How one discussion unfolds could be totally different than how others unfold --- both in motivation and in timing.

 

[Crease]

It’s surely a change of doctor thing, our guys didn’t spot it while Washington’s did. Can’t imagine he “developed” a heart condition over the summer.

Second time our guys didn’t spot a heart condition...

It could be as simple as Hank feeling unwell recently, and a battery of tests revealed a heart condition in its early stages. I don't know if NHL players get ultrasounds, cardiac CTs, or MRIs in the ordinary course. EKGs maybe once a year, but those don't reveal everything.

 

[Avery16]

Can I get (HF)board certified to be a roster building thread doctor like the rest of you all

 

[RGY]

Calgary made two draft day trades to move down. With us and with Washington. Edge is leading us to believe that while our trade talks involving Monahan and Lindholm didn't come to fruition, the dialogue laid the groundwork for the Rangers and Flames to link up as the draft was unfolding. A reasonable leap from this logic would be that the Capitals and Flames also had prior dialogue in a grander sense (i.e. involving roster players) that kept both of their doors open as the draft was unfolding. If this was not the case, and the Caps and Flames just connected out of the blue at the 11th hour, then that lends credence to the idea that the Rangers and Flames could have done the same, meaning that they did not have any trade discussions involving the aforementioned roster players. Moreover, it could be that there were significant trade discussions but they were not essential to formulating a draft day trade.

So my question was - did Washington and Calgary have any material trade discussions leading up to the draft that opened their doors amid the draft?

Hope this helps.

So through all of this continued nonsense from you, of which you are trying make some point that seems to be that you expect Edge to have info on discussions between the Caps/Flames when he very likely only has insight on things that surround the Rangers through his connections.

Is this your first time around these parts?

 

[Vitto79]

So taxi squad likely gonna be guys like DGP, Blackwell Reuananen or Hajek amd Kinkaid vs kids like Barron ?