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Speculation: Roster Building Thread LII: Countdown to Free Agency

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GeorgeKaplan said:
Why?
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Because at the end of the day it is still someone that is just a prospect (albeit a very good one) for an already established, young, good Top 6 center

I'm not even strongly advocating it, but I thought it was something that would be more intriguing than how so many people outright said no to it
 
Alluckks said:
I'm actually surprised at how many people wouldn't trade Miller for Nylander
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It's not that I think for a minute that Miller is more valuable than Nylander in a vacuum. It's that you're dealing the only prospect in the system who has real top-pairing potential for a guy who is most likely a winger for the rest of his NHL career. That's dealing from weakness to bolster a position that already looks like a strength.

I'd love to land Nylander but I just don't think moving Miller makes any sense at this time.
 
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NYRangers0723 said:
love miller. Think he is gonna be real good. I dont want to go back to trading our youth/prospects like we used to all the time
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I mean, Nylander isn't the same as getting 1.5 years of Yandle, 1.5 years of St. Louis, or 28 year old Rick Nash with 9 seasons already under his belt
 
bobbop said:
Protected firsts are not going away. No one ever wants to end up like Ottawa.

My solution is a backup exchange...if first is deferred, get a second from then that year and then repay them with a second when the first is conveyed.

I don’t want to wait forever for some return on a deal that important.
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I love this idea! Why do I get the feeling that practically no GM would go for that though? That does seem like a completely fair trade off too. Make the cost of business more. This needs to be a real thing.
 
ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
I don't even think they necessarily have to wait that long.

Contending teams with a tight cap and not a ton of options should be looking in our direction. Maybe it interferes with their plans on July 1, but Kreider @50% should have tremendous value.
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Well I expect the market to pick up after teams like Colorado and Arizona find out they're out on Panarin and Duchene.
 
Trxjw said:
It's not that I think for a minute that Miller is more valuable than Nylander in a vacuum. It's that you're dealing the only prospect in the system who has real top-pairing potential for a guy who is most likely a winger for the rest of his NHL career. That's dealing from weakness to bolster a position that already looks like a strength.

I'd love to land Nylander but I just don't think moving Miller makes any sense at this time.
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I guess I get it more if you truly believe he cements at Wing rather than Center
 
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Alluckks said:
Because at the end of the day it is still someone that is just a prospect (albeit a very good one) for an already established, young, good Top 6 center

I'm not even strongly advocating it, but I thought it was something that would be more intriguing than how so many people outright said no to it
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Even if he's just a prospect, he had an incredible season last year. Not to mention, he's something that this team doesn't have something similar in the system, and not many teams around the league have something similar (and that's even if he doesn't hit his ceiling, which is sky high).
 
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Alluckks said:
I'm actually surprised at how many people wouldn't trade Miller for Nylander
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People insanely overrate our own prospects. Nylander is a 1st line wing with a great contract signed long term. Miller could be anything ranging from a 1D to an AHL player. He's looking good so far but this is not Rasmus Dahlin we're talking about here.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
Who outside of Panarin will be a good get for us on July 1st?
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The homerun swing would be Pavelski. Veteran center, leader, top 6 goal scorer. Rangers have done well with old guys leading their younger teams. Not saying it would be a home hit.

Cap space would be very tight to make it work.

But the more realistic signings would be Bellmare, Acciari, Hathaway, Filpulla.

They want a veteran center on the roster. That's going to be a go-get.

Ancillary pieces for the 4th line that can PK will be a desired option, but they'd have to know that they can move out a Vesey & Names to make it happen.
 
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I'm perfectly fine if the team signed its RFAs to appropriate extensions and entered camp with the team they have now. Long run I really want to see what this team can pull off in 2020 with cap space and some seriously desperate teams more than I want to see them lock up Panarin to a 8 year, 100M deal.
 
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SnowblindNYR said:
Who outside of Panarin will be a good get for us on July 1st?
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I’m in the nobody camp but they will do something . Gonna guess Filpulla and AHL bodies

If they deal Vesey and/or Names it opens up more options . Assuming Kreider stays cause they need a descent first line
 
Mikos87 said:
The homerun swing would be Pavelski. Veteran center, leader, top 6 goal scorer. Rangers have done well with old guys leading their younger teams. Not saying it would be a home hit.

Cap space would be very tight to make it work.

But the more realistic signings would be Bellmare, Acciari, Hathaway, Filpulla.

They want a veteran center on the roster. That's going to be a go-get.

Ancillary pieces for the 4th line that can PK will be a desired option, but they'd have to know that they can move out a Vesey & Names to make it happen.
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I love Pavelski but don't wanna give him 3 years
 
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William Moneylander said:
Veteran 4C is pretty much a guarantee. I hope they get better vets for Hartford. Bigger players, maybe Gusev's rights would make sense, I'd like Simmonds on a show-me contract but if someone wants to give him 3-4 years forget about him.
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Why would we get a veteran 4C? Just to push Nieves and Andersson out of their natural position?
 
SA16 said:
People insanely overrate our own prospects. Nylander is a 1st line wing with a great contract signed long term. Miller could be anything ranging from a 1D to an AHL player. He's looking good so far but this is not Rasmus Dahlin we're talking about here.
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Don't confuse your risk aversion with realism.
 
Avery16 said:
Leaving alone the other problematic parts of this post, 7th Ds don’t get into many fights (at least on the ice. We should never dare Smith to get injured in a fight)
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Go ahead explain the “problematic” parts. Explain away. Would love to hear the over exaggeration if issues with the other players.
 
Vitto79 said:
I’m in the nobody camp but they will do something . Gonna guess Filpulla and AHL bodies

If they deal Vesey and/or Names it opens up more options . Assuming Kreider stays cause they need a descent first line
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Got a lot of NCAA kids signed to AHL contracts, along with our own prospects. I’d wager they don’t sign vets for down there until they hire a coach.
 
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