Speculation: Roster Building Thread LI: Something happen, please...

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There's always one or two. Always.

Doesn't matter if it's 1997, 2019, I accept it.

Legit not mad, I find it more amusing than anything else. Even if I do roll my eyes and think, "here we go again..."

The other alternative is to actually give flat out verified, non-vague intel and still get shit for it though. I know that you know who I am talking about, too. We've unfortunately seen a couple of legitimate Rangers insiders run off the board by the horde.
 
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I'm speaking it into existence.

We will trade for the 7th or 8th pick.

It's happening.

Come on, universe. Do your thing.
 
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Now we just need to stop being "linked" to these guys, and maybe start seeing some confirmed stickies.

That's the part that's a pain.

We can be correct on the players, and the deals, and still not see a damn thing. Because it's not our decision to make.

And this is why I will stay off the boards tonight (most likely). I enjoy waiting for Bettman to walk up to the podium with the "We have a trade to announce" and always sit with anticipation wondering if it is going to be the Rangers.
 
It looks like we are aiming for playoffs already next season so it should be an interesting training camp in October with or without Kreider - if we land another top 8-10th oa! :)
 
The other alternative is to actually give flat out verified, non-vague intel and still get **** for it though. I know that you know who I am talking about, too. We've unfortunately seen a couple of legitimate Rangers insiders run off the board by the horde.

And for the record I was told I could not name specific names yet.

I ask everyone to please try and remember, this information is coming from people who are friends and/or colleagues. I've been to their weddings, we do business together, I'd like to keep doing business with them and being friends with them --- I've kind of grown attached to them. :)

I legit try to wait until I am confident about something before I post it here. That's done to protect ALL of this for us.
 
Been busy for a while, but some general thoughts on what’s been going on:

1. The Trouba trade is good for us from a timing POV. A very big obstacle for rebuilding teams is that building a defense has a — totally — different time frame than what building a line-up has. There are exceptions, but if you look through 20 solid top 4 Ds, odds are that like 15 of them only really established themselves in that role when they were older than 23. And quite a few later than that too. This also applies to guys like Hedman. They just take time to first get into the league and once in the NHL to become solid and able to play long tough minutes.

Hence getting Trouba really helps us from that POV. Skjei, Trouba and TDA. The vets are history sooner rather than later. Our future on the blueline is a bit thin even Trouba. Remember that we haven’t had room to even start to brew any wild card and the likes. Fox should play. Hajak maybe got a little too much praise for his short stint, but hopefully he can ship in. K’Andre Miller is a project but has so much potential.

Then there are risks with Trouba. It’s not easy to play defense for a rebuilding team. You get exposed. This doesn’t change much just because we didn’t give up a ton to get him. But from a timing POV it’s a huge add.

2. Gorton has done a tremendous job working the phones to line us up for the moves we have made and hopefully will make. It’s such a hard league to get things done in, and almost exclusively the talks on these moves started years ago.

The flip side of this is that it’s time consuming. I am not sure how many hours there is left for Gorts to run our AHL franchise etc. Hold Drury’s hand. Implement an analytics section. I am not sure how ‘executive’ JD is, but hopefully he can chip in.

I’ve called out Gorts for a lot of things over the years, but he deserves a ton of credit for how he has gone about the trading part of his job.

3. There are a lot of buzz out there, but it’s important to not get too high expectations. Even if something is discussed, there will be 10 serious discussions — at least — for every deal that actually is made.

In addition, sometimes maybe stuff reported are portrayed as being more than it actually is. Some — like bbkers and bobob — do a great job just putting out there what they heard, others maybe pick up a tidbit or circumstance and make it out like it’s bigger than it is. We all know the type, all of a sudden they’ve heard everything and anything, often a few hours after someone like Dreger reported it, and it’s stuff that they only would have info on if they talked regularly with a bunch of GMs around the league that was spilling the beans to them; McKenzie and scouts and GMs and what not are calling them for advice and to compare notes etc etc etc.

To be clear, I don’t mind seeing any report, I can value it myself and if nothing else it gets the imagination going. It’s the opposite, I want to get them. But to get that, we need to be a bit sober and don’t run away with these things. Otherwise there will surely be a backlash because quite many can’t take seeing a report they don’t like or that doesn’t happen without bringing out the oil and feathers.

4. Expect lists to be upside down on draft day. I was listening to McKenzies podcast the other day. He talks to his old buddies. They are of course CHL oriented, that’s where McK got to know them. Why is Kravtsov what 60 at one point, then 10 at the draft? They aren’t supplying lists from the organizations finihsed products to McK, and even if someone do, it gets drowned by the others. Further more, McKenzie massages the list and he is just not in the know anymore. He says it himself, he don’t watch these kids. He said that he got a full time gig following the NHL and don’t have time for it. Listen to him talk about these kids, it’s all size, size and then some more size about the forwards. The NHL teams are going in the other direction, and look at the Wheeler redraft — the impact is huge. I wouldn’t say that it’s impossible for. Big forward to do well, but more often it’s the non-big guys that thrives. In addition, teams are all over the place it seems like this year.
 
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What's the 411 on the Breadman?

I was looking at what Gorton gave Chara in 2006... It was 17% cap hit, at the near potato age of 29... This board would have had an aneurysm
 
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And for the record I was told I could not name specific names yet.

I ask everyone to please try and remember, this information is coming from people who are friends and/or colleagues. I've been to their weddings, we do business together, I'd like to keep doing business with them and being friends with them --- I've kind of grown attached to them. :)

I legit try to wait until I am confident about something before I post it here. That's done to protect ALL of this for us.

Exactly. Well said, Edge.
 
And this is why I will stay off the boards tonight (most likely). I enjoy waiting for Bettman to walk up to the podium with the "We have a trade to announce" and always sit with anticipation wondering if it is going to be the Rangers.

That feeling when I knew the Rangers were picking first or second in this draft was unreal.

I still get a bolt of electricity and goose bumps when I think about it.
 
And for the record I was told I could not name specific names yet.

I ask everyone to please try and remember, this information is coming from people who are friends and/or colleagues. I've been to their weddings, we do business together, I'd like to keep doing business with them and being friends with them --- I've kind of grown attached to them. :)

I legit try to wait until I am confident about something before I post it here. That's done to protect ALL of this for us.

Is there anything imminent?
 
That feeling when I knew the Rangers were picking first or second in this draft was unreal.

I still get a bolt of electricity and goose bumps when I think about it.

It is the single best piece of draft luck this team has had since Lundqvist. And part of that was just good scouting. This was pure luck. This team doesn't get lucky. Ever.
 
At the end of the day, I think I still take comfort in knowing these guys are willing to be aggressive, willing to be bold, are doing a good job of identifying talent, and focused on truly building a complete team from top to bottom.

Oh yeah, and we'll draft a guy with legit potential to be a franchise player in the NHL.

A Big YES on that.

They've put their best foot forward. If the right deal happens fine, if not please don't chase it and overpay.

Draft Day is all about the sellers trying to get the buyers to way overpay. I'd rather we not be there today and wait for the TD and get a better deal.

My feeling is that as of now our first round at worst is Kakko/Hughes, Trouba, Fox.

I'm just fine with that....for now.
 
Ive been one of the more vocal proponents of JP as a reclamation project but I'd definitely favor Nylander. Absolutely loved him in his draft year and I think he showed quite well in the AHL last year despite the lack of Earth shattering numbers.

I like JP as a high end complimentary player. I still think Nylander has potential to be a driver on a very good second line. Similar skill set to Buch as well.
 
That feeling when I knew the Rangers were picking first or second in this draft was unreal.

I still get a bolt of electricity and goose bumps when I think about it.
We're reallllllyyyyyy luck to get the 2nd pick in THIS draft. Not very common you can get a legit 1st overall prospect in Kakko in many others drafts at the 2nd pick.
 
Maybe ADA is available, with Lundkvist, Keane, Smith and Shattenkirk ( assuming they keep him for now and Fox makes it )
 
It is the single best piece of draft luck this team has had since Lundqvist. And part of that was just good scouting. This was pure luck. This team doesn't get lucky. Ever.
We did that night!!!
That feeling when I knew the Rangers were picking first or second in this draft was unreal.

I still get a bolt of electricity and goose bumps when I think about it.

I still look at my calf and think about the dog bite that took a month and a half to heal :laugh:
 
This is why I need to PM you. I used to get some info from you back when we wrote on here. Now I am just a nothing. :(

I heard it's because you changed your username. He doesn't know who you are anymore.

What's the 411 on the Breadman?

I was looking at what he gave Chara in 2006... It was 17% cap hit, at the near potato age of 29... This board would have had an aneurysm

Chara was a top-3 dmen in the league coming off back to back 40+ point seasons. Panarin is a very good player, but he wasn't at the same level Chara was as a player.
 
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