Speculation: Roster Building Thread L "Please Do Not Pester the Vetted Posters"

[Don Chytil]

im loving trying to decipher your hints but i dont know enough of family connections in the nhl ex i just found out the hayes bros were related to the tkachuk bros

It’s the Nylander bros, Rangers like them both

And obviously we have the family connection with their dad

 

[DutchShamrock]

If you take the Buffalo deal, you get your center. If you go Edmonton, Buffalo has to take their winger, probably caulfield, and you get your center with the next pick anyway. Edmonton would have to send you salary back if they took a higher priced guy like Namestnikov.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Puljujarvi on the 2nd line eh.

I mean, ya, it’s not a perfect lineup, but that’s a team that could either potentially be a bubble team, or potentially be a lottery team, while also leaning heavily on younger players. So I think it’s a pretty ideal lineup for our goals next season (improve, but the expectation of improvement isn’t particularly high).

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Do you guys think Zegras or Cozens could make the jump this year?

No.

Zegras is a 1 and done guy though IMO.

 

[thethirdhockeyman91]

Modern isthe absolute best. And you haven't had Pepe's until you've tried the white clam. Personally think Sally's and Pepe's arent exceptional, but Pizza as we see is a fickle subject of expertise in the TriState area

Sally’s is numero uno IMO.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Not sure that I'm ready to trade Buch. Vesey can **** off and I understand not wanting to hang onto Kreider because of what Hayes just got. Buch took some strides towards the end of the year and I dont know if I would want to give that up to have a shot at drafting another player that could take the same amount of time to develop.

Gotta give to get. I understand the hesitation and wouldn’t do it in the teens (unless Newhook was still available), but for a top 10 pick, yeah. And I say that as a big Buch fan.

 

[NernieBichols]

Not sure that I'm ready to trade Buch. Vesey can **** off and I understand not wanting to hang onto Kreider because of what Hayes just got. Buch took some strides towards the end of the year and I dont know if I would want to give that up to have a shot at drafting another player that could take the same amount of time to develop.

All things go well. Buchnevich is a 3rd line in 2 years. And damn would he be a match up advantage there.

But if you got capable 3rd liners coming up and yoh got the top dogs above him. Using a 3rd line wing whonwould be making 4.4-5 a year to move up for 1C prospect is smart play

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Gotta give to get. I understand the hesitation and wouldn’t do it in the teens (unless Newhook was still available), but for a top 10 pick, yeah. And I say that as a bi Buch fan.

That's really none of our business.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

That's really none of our business.

NTTAWWT

 

[NernieBichols]

And sometimes teams also like players on a team who are related to players they like with other teams.

Vesey eichel
Kreider step

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

That's really none of our business.

Nice catch. Fixed it.

 

[MikeSteaks]

What the f*** is with all the silly trade rumors?? I thought this was the pizza thread?

 

[thethirdhockeyman91]

Kreider has a NTC right? If it’s Edmonton I can’t imagine kreider waiving to go there

 

[EdJovanovski]

Alex Nylander sucks
No idea why we'd move Buch for this

 

[kovazub94]

Doesn't necessarily have to the be the usual suspects. Just something to keep in mind. When you look at some of the teams being mentioned in this thread, consider guys who are still young but haven't met expectations.

TBH, I have a little anxiety that you might slip and say too much too early that you’d regret later. Just err on a side of a caution.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

7th or 8th overall is going to cost Kreider + a 2nd or something. Buch and Vesey get you nothing close to that. You ppl are way to optimistic.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

And sometimes teams also like players on a team who are related to players they like with other teams.

8 + Caleb Jones

 

[Tob]

Vesey, 3rd, and Claesson's RFA rights for A.Nylander.
Kreider @ 50%, Buchenvich @50%, Marleau's laundering service for W.Nylander
7th pick in 2029 to WSH for Michael Nylander's post retirement celebration and marketing rights
Free trip to NYC and a $10 Chase voucher to MSG food court for Peter Nylander and Thommy Nylander to attend the home opener.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

All things go well. Buchnevich is a 3rd line in 2 years. And damn would he be a match up advantage there.

But if you got capable 3rd liners coming up and yoh got the top dogs above him. Using a 3rd line wing whonwould be making 4.4-5 a year to move up for 1C prospect is smart play

What does that mean all things go well Buch is a 3rd line player?

All things go well and he maintains his production from the second half of last year and becomes a borderline first line player.

 

[I Eat Crow]

What the **** is with all the silly trade rumors?? I thought this was the pizza thread?

This thread is bullcrap until I know @Edge's preference for pizza

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I'd give both a year.

I would probably give Cozens 2 or even 3, tbh.

 

[Edge]

Since last night, the ball has tended to be in the other team's courts. Not to say negotiations can't/won't continue, but I feel like the Rangers have outlined some structures and expectations.

Remember, in every single instance, they're are the team giving up guys who have at least shown they are NHL players. We can talk about the value of high picks, or former high picks, or prospects until we're blue in the face. They're still unknown quantities.

When you start talking about combos of Buch and Names, you're still talking about 30 goals and 70 points combined. In the right environment and with room to grow, you're talking about sending another team 45 goals and 100 points.

Same with Buch and Vesey, a combo that's at roughly 40 goals/ 70 points right now, and maybe in the 50/100 range in the right setting elsewhere.

Then consider that while we all have our favorites for players we'd love to draft, you're most likely not getting that kind of production back straight-up --- now or five years from now. So while some will swear that their team "can't give up a high pick", there's often a little bit of overestimating on their part. That's why fans end up balking at the notion of a pick and a prospect. They assume the production of the pick is a given --- especially in the midst of draft fever as I like to call it.

 

[NernieBichols]

Doesn't necessarily have to the be the usual suspects. Just something to keep in mind. When you look at some of the teams being mentioned in this thread, consider guys who are still young but haven't met expectations.

Nurse
Risto
Gergonsins

 

[Edge]

This thread is bullcrap until I know @Edge's preference for pizza

A no frills NY style slice of pepperoni, extra crispy. I'll sprink oregano, cheese, garlic and crushed red pepper on that baby. I'm also someone who folds, much to my mom's dismay.

 

[Trxjw]

7th or 8th overall is going to cost Kreider + a 2nd or something. Buch and Vesey get you nothing close to that. You ppl are way to optimistic.

A week ago Trouba was going to cost us Buchnevich, Lundkvist and the 20th overall. All comes down to how much a GM values these players.

If you think Buch and Vesey are 25+ goal scorers in your top six then they're well worth that pick and then some.