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Roster Building Thread IV (2022-23): Luck of the Irish

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IDvsEGO said:
The window isn’t only this year. That’s the point. Kakko and Laf are the future. You let them walk for a quick shot you might as well rebuild again in 3 years.
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I didn’t say anything about Laf or letting either of them walk. We can worry about 3 years from now in 3 years. Because we’ll have plenty of cap flexibility then. We actually have a real chance to win a Cup now and the next few years. Not banking on hope like usual.

Keeping Kane & Tank on shorter term deals and moving Kakko, Goodrow or Lindgren for picks in a “generational” draft or ELC players seems like a pretty sustainable way to operate in my opinion. Othmann, Cuylle, Jones & Robertson are all on the door step of the NHL as well.
 
haohmaru said:
Well, he did "stock the cupboard" with an extra 1st by trading Lundkvist presumably so he would still have one after TDL. Mission accomplished. I think he's had consecutive very good/great TDL's which, historically, hasn't been a Rangers strong suit.
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To be fair, Lundkvist cost a first to begin with. So it’s a neutral move. Kicked the can down the road.
 
Oscar Lindberg said:
This is the squad gang, might want to strap in. Kane circus removed any chance of getting further depth
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Yep. I am excited to watch Kane but it was definitely a choice between getting Kane and getting a couple better grinder types. Again, it’s impossible to turn down Kane but it’s a wildcard type situation going forward.
 
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bhamill said:
Drury also had twice as much retained as the others and it was needed to get a player the stature of Patrick Kane. It’s also a pick two years from now which GMs give less value to. As far as this TDL’s prices, it’s right in line.
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Er, no. Kane was actually $60K less.

egelband said:
To be fair, Lundkvist cost a first to begin with. So it’s a neutral move. Kicked the can down the road.
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Yes, but I think skipping a 1st entirely in a draft year is more costly long term than dealing the lesser of two. There was no spot for Lundkvist here after Fox/Trouba.
 
Atax said:
It makes the league look like a joke. Stupid cap crap, useless department of player safety, awful marketing/ads. Just a joke.
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I’m starting to believe it’s NHL risk management ahead of the inevitable lawsuits. Plausible Deniability. “We are shocked! We truly didn’t think it was a bad hit…”
If they admit these hits are bad, any lawyer says “then why do you allow them to keep happening”. Case closed. It’s not just the Motte hit, it’s a pattern.
The league always downplays the severity to protect itself down the line. Not to mention outrage and blood sell… the players association is harder to understand tho.
 
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will1066 said:
With names like Cooper, Wyatt and Lockwood, 2023 is the year Drury starts building an American Old West lineup
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Glen Sathers Cigar said:
That's not how it's supposed to work though, you're not supposed to decide what's okay and what isn't based on how it feels.

There's a CBA. Per the CBA you're eligible for an emergency recall if you play 1 game dressing fewer than 18 skaters and 2 goalies as a result of not having the cap space to replace injured, sick or suspended players in the lineup and dress 18 available skaters. After one game you're supposed to be eligible for an emergency recall.

How you ended up not having the cap space to recall a player is irrelevant.

If the NHL said the reason the Rangers were not entitled to an emergency recall for last night's game was bc they technically made the Kane trade on Wednesday so they started that day with enough cap space to recall a player but then made the trade and took the cap space away making it their own fault -then fine that explanation makes sense for why they didn't get an emergency recall for last night's game.

But on Thursday they started the day without enough cap space to recall anyone so they player Thursday night with only 17 skaters dressed with the players who did not play being ineligibile due to injury/illness/suspension. Per the CBA they should be allowed an emergency recall of a player making 800k or less for tomorrow's game.
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But again they put themselves in that position because of the decisions that they made on their own to make a trade happen. It's apples and oranges. Teams get exemptions when they have extenuating circumstances that are beyond the basis of their control and most instances, NYR has completely created the situation because they wanted to make a trade that they didn't have the money to make. There's always me crap about the Rangers it's just getting so old. You really think that the league wants to target and penalize one of their marquee franchises?! Come on...
 
haohmaru said:
Er, no. Kane was actually $60K less.



Yes, but I think skipping a 1st entirely in a draft year is more costly long term than dealing the lesser of two. There was no spot for Lundkvist here after Fox/Trouba.
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According to what I read in that tweet comparing three retention deals O’Reiley, Orlov and Kane, Kane had twice as much retained. Maybe the other one, where MTL retained, was an outlier, or maybe retention prices are coming down now that the big names are off the board, but the Kane price was in line. Unless I read it wrong, which, honestly is entirely possible. Hahaha. Still, you can’t look at in in a vacuum. Teams knew that deal was dead without retention. It wasn’t for a depth piece, it was for a superstar.
Also I’m not sure why people talk about the actual dollars and not the cap hit. No one is trading for people to pay the player. They are trading for cap space.
 
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bleedblue94 said:
It wasn't a charge. It was an elbow and it was a penalty but based on the standard the DOPS has set I'm not surprised at all that he isn't suspended. In a more rational world with better precedent of discipline for head contact you'd see a suspension. It's not a charge. And don't for a second blame this on a DOPS, the PA is just as guilty bc they constantly whine about suspensions and taking money out of the pockets of players. Broken system
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It absolutely was a charge. He did a two foot vertical leap.
 
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