Roster Building Thread IV (2022-23): Luck of the Irish

[Shesterkybomb]

Panarin and Kane would be such a bad idea and it really bothers me that it's GG's first instinct.

It's going to enable Panarin to be the worst version of himself while completely killing the other top 6 line. Panarin's line was fine, if not very good with Tarasenko on it.

Plus if you want to get the most out of Kane, I'd think it'd probably be a good idea to throw him on a line with our top 2 goal scorers. JMO.

I dont think so, but Mika would have to center the line. Leaves you with
Panarin Mika Kane
Kreider Trochek Tarasenko
Laf chytil kakko
Vesey Goodrow Motte

 

[ohbaby]

Maybe we'll finally get some details today, but we can't make the cap work until Wednesday at the earliest. Unless most of the cap people out there are wrong, deal won't be finalized until then.

Wednesday, why? Know one says why.

 

[ohbaby]

I dont think so, but Mika would have to center the line. Leaves you with
Panarin Mika Kane
Kreider Trochek Tarasenko
Laf chytil kakko
Vesey Goodrow Motte

Boy is that top heavy. I hate to break up Kreids and Mika.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Wednesday, why? Know one says why.

Because they have to accrue cap space. The salary cap is a daily hit. They sent Schneider down so they will accrue cap space for every day he’s off the roster. That’s why they had to waive Leschyshyn by Saturday and traded Kravtsov early as well

 

[Leonardo87]

So are those Kane Rangers jerseys available yet? Asking for a friend.

 

[RGY]

So are those Kane Rangers jerseys available yet? Asking for a friend.

 

[Michal]

So…with Miller inevitably getting suspended, when is the earliest we can make the Kane trade? Still Wednesday?

Definitely the most important question for now. I'm not sure if it is still Wednesday. I think it is if Lindgren is able to play Wednesday, otherwise I don't know.

 

[Leonardo87]

That dude wasted no time, lol.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Boy is that top heavy. I hate to break up Kreids and Mika.

Kreider and Trochek looked good together too and i really think that's a hard line to play against.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I think today is the day it finally happens. The deal was delayed because they had to call up Carpenter in order to meet requirements of dressing a certain number of players for the LA game.

Now they can send him and Schneider back down for the cap space needed.

Can't wait. Looks like we are Cup contenders this year. Drury going all out.

Patrick Kane Geezes! Arguably better than Panarin and Zibad. And he comes in with 7 goals in his last 4 games.

I thought we were done with getting Tarasenko.

Still think it will be Weds

 

[leetch99]

I can’t believe the way some are you talking about the devils, it’s honestly pathetic.

I am going to chalk it up to most of you being teenagers

In all fairness there are many smart young and old posters in most forums . Age or length of time in a forum is a poor measuring stick I always figured and I moderate at a large & extremly popular 1970's hockey forum that has a large NHL/WHA alumni ......so I have an idea of what I speak of .

 

[The Gloaming]

Not sure if they can do it on Wednesday if they have to bring another defenseman up.

Unless they just get Kane and then play down a man because this time, they won't have the cap space to bring anyone else up. Then they can get an emergency call up for Thursday.

We're playing the Flyers and Senators ... they can certainly have a chance to win even with a shortened roster.

 

[bleedblue94]

You're shipping out Chytil for old man Stastny?

90s Rangers would be proud.

or typo?

Typo ha

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

It's interesting to see yet again Tampa pays a huge price to add a guy like Jeannot to their team. They've done this so many times and had so much success. Have they ever added a guy like Tarasenko or Kane at a deadline(aged/older guy who used to be really good)? Just seems like the wrong thought process for a playoff run. Many on here called for a move for Jeannot and I think it's a mistake the Rangers weren't in the mix for him.

 

[The Gloaming]

It's interesting to see yet again Tampa pays a huge price to add a guy like Jeannot to their team. They've done this so many times and had so much success. Have they ever added a guy like Tarasenko or Kane at a deadline(aged/older guy who used to be really good)? Just seems like the wrong though process for a playoff run. Many on here called for a move for Jeannot and I think it's a mistake the Rangers weren't in the mix for him.

The Rangers should not be giving up a whole draft board of picks for a bottom 6 player. That's just ridiculous.

Tampa wins because their core players show up every playoffs.

Without McDonagh, I am less worried about them now.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

The Rangers should not be giving up a whole draft board of picks for a bottom 6 player. That's just ridiculous.

Tampa wins because their core players show up every playoffs.

Without McDonagh, I am less worried about them now.

Right but you can't brush off the fact that they have, multiple times traded huge draft capital on these tough to play against grinders and you can't deny their success. I'm just saying on a high level, its working for them and theyve never added an aging veteran scorer at a deadline. You're 100% right about their core but I still think it's a bad sign for the Rangers strategy here.

 

[The Gloaming]

Right but you can't brush off the fact that they have, multiple times traded huge draft capital on these tough to play against grinders and you can't deny their success. I'm just saying on a high level, its working for them and theyve never added an aging veteran scorer at a deadline. You're 100% right about their core but I still think it's a bad sign for the Rangers strategy here.

They haven't had to plug the holes in their top 6 because they didn't have them to begin with. They always had a great forward core.

Rangers couldn't go into the playoffs with Goodrow and Vesey in the top 6.

And when arguably the best winger of his generation (and also plays the position your team is weakest in) only wants to come to your team, are you supposed to say no to that?

 

[DialUp]

They haven't had to plug the holes in their top 6 because they didn't have them to begin with. They always had a great forward core.

Rangers couldn't go into the playoffs with Goodrow and Vesey in the top 6.

And when arguably the best winger of his generation only wants to come to your team, are you supposed to say no to that?

This is kinda sorta reminding me (exactly) of the St Louis situation. We have a more talented team then 2014 though, I think we have a much worse shot then we did then at the cup.

 

[SA16]

Right but you can't brush off the fact that they have, multiple times traded huge draft capital on these tough to play against grinders and you can't deny their success. I'm just saying on a high level, its working for them and theyve never added an aging veteran scorer at a deadline. You're 100% right about their core but I still think it's a bad sign for the Rangers strategy here.

Their success is due to Kucherov, Point, Stamkos, Hedman, Vasilevskiy not whatever bottom six player they decide they have to trade their whole draft for each year.

 

[The Gloaming]

This is kinda sorta reminding me (exactly) of the St Louis situation. We have a more talented team then 2014 though, I think we have a much worse shot then we did then at the cup.

How do you figure? Because the East as a whole is better? Because this is also the most talented Rangers roster I've ever seen.

 

[MarkMessyay11]

Wednesday, why? Know one says why.

We won’t have enough cap space to fit him until then. Best way I can explain it is player cap hits and team cap space are prorated based on how many days are left in the season. Cap hits go down, cap space goes up. Based on all the roster jockeying we’ve done this past week (trading Kravstov, waiving Leschyshyn, benching Carpenter and Schneider, etc.), we’ll have accrued just enough cap space by Wednesday to fit Kane’s remaining cap hit…assuming Chicago retains 50% and a 3rd team retains another 50%.

 

[The Gloaming]

Now, I will say that Tampa's pro scouting is excellent and the trades they made to get Nick Paul and Hagel were very good - they lost a whole 3rd line and filled 2/3s of it long term.

 

[Savant]

So are those Kane Rangers jerseys available yet? Asking for a friend.

You know I’ve got a white Lindros jersey (don’t ask) that I never wore for obvious reasons. Would love to switch that nameplate off

 

[Avery16]

I wouldn't put Panarin with Kane, at least not right away. First I'd try:

Pan/Zib/Tar
Kre/Tro/Kan
Laf/Chy/Kak
Mot/Goo/Ves

 

[Deleted member 23124]

We won’t have enough cap space to fit him until then. Best way I can explain it is player cap hits and team cap space are prorated based on how many days are left in the season. Cap hits go down, cap space goes up. Based on all the roster jockeying we’ve done this past week (trading Kravstov, waiving Leschyshyn, benching Carpenter and Schneider, etc.), we’ll have accrued just enough cap space by Wednesday to fit Kane’s remaining cap hit…assuming Chicago retains 50% and a 3rd team retains another 50%.

3rd team would retain 25%.