Speculation: Roster Building Thread III (2021 Offseason) - “Simple Jack”, "Will over Skill", "Drury in a Hurry"?
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Yes, but that leaves a huge hole at 1C, which is by far the hardest position to fill. Even good 2Cs are hard to find. Strome is half of one, Chytil is a few years away from being a good 2C on a contender. Trading for one is costly and UFA is extremely competitive and availability varies year on year. Even the Rangers who objectively have three good centers are looking to upgrade for various reasons. Signing UFAs like Hertl and Danault just feels like stopgaps that creates more headaches down the road. At least Zib brings the potential of actual 1C capability.
Hertl has another year left on his contract. Danault’s a UFA.
We’re the youngest team in the league. Ownership wants a more competitive team. Drurys not going to look at trading for 19 and 20 year olds like KK.
95% of HF cares more about prospects than actual results. We don’t need to get younger. We have our young core and need to find veteran players that will compliment them.
I wish he had been mobile in the first two years of his deal but I guess there is still time.
And which veteran players would that be? Danault is decent on a tight checking team like the Habs, but would he be a good fit on the Rangers and at the cost he would command? Ideally he is a 3C yet he does nothing for grit and sandpaper, he throws a hissy fit any time he doesn't play with Gallagher (to help him boost his offensive numbers). Hard pass for me.
He makes 8 sheets. Of course we got worse when we were icing a team with 8 mil less in the lineup. Also, of course that money could be better spent.
You just hate trouba for whatever reason, that’s fine. You don’t have to like the guy. But no matter what you say he’s a good top 4 D. And at 6’4 over 200 pounds he gets around pretty well for a big man. I still take him over Pionk 10 outta 10 times.
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If Reinhart was better in the faceoff circle I'd be interested but he's just as bad as Chytil.
He's even spent substantial time on the wing it's been such an issue for him.
He's even spent substantial time on the wing it's been such an issue for him.
He also plays the exact type of game people have been whining about on this board for the past few weeks. He’s got the perfect mean streak for the playoffs.
Tell Brock Nelson he gets around pretty well.
Most outsiders would take Pionk, who also happens to make less than half.
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Again, that has to be answered, but giving players that type of money because we want to them to be that isn't the answer.
Eichel has an injury history, a very questionable attitude, and leans heavily on PP production as a RH shot which we have in spades. He just isn't a fit. We shouldn't shoehorn him in just because there isn't somebody else.
If they emptied the cupboard for Hertl and gave him a massive extension, I'd be behind that 100%. Hertl actually makes sense for this team beyond box scores.
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Hertl and Danault aren't stopgaps. They would be cheaper and straight-up more effective as your 1 and 2 C's.
This team needs CENTERS. Eichel and Zibanejad are just wingers who lose faceoffs.
Pionk does nothing to change the dynamic of this defense. And as of now hasn’t proved what trouba has. And I think Pionk is a pretty good little D. Definitely would not want him playing top 4 heavy minutes on my team in the playoffs though.
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I don't hate Trouba, yet that contract is going to suck.
He is just not the player who should take up ~10% of the cap.
Much like Kreider.
There are more efficient ways to add a 2nd pair defender and 2nd/3rd line wing. (I know the debates, yet that is how I have always seen them, no hindsight)
He is just not the player who should take up ~10% of the cap.
Much like Kreider.
There are more efficient ways to add a 2nd pair defender and 2nd/3rd line wing. (I know the debates, yet that is how I have always seen them, no hindsight)
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For a board that was really mad about Dolan apparently ending the rebuild to make the playoffs yesterday, everyone really wants to just do the flashiest move with the highest point totals on NHL.com.
You would think Dolan has more support.
You would think Dolan has more support.
You mention Eichel and injuries but ignore hertl? Eichel has head and neck issues, hertl has leg and knee issues, neither are good long term.
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Danault, be careful that it's him contributing the most, and not so much him and Gallagher Tatar as a line doing the happy metric stuff.
The place that was on a 24/7 Sundin watch for months isn't the most rational place?
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Anyways Tampa v Florida is about to start.Good chance to view Stamkos before he’s traded here
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True but Eichel is also a baby, doesn't care about defense, can't win a faceoff, and puts up half his points standing where Panarin does on the powerplay. We're gonna have Panarin there, see, that's the thing.
Good chance to view Stamkos before he’s traded here
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Both, but Danault if I had to pick one.
I think Zibanejad is fine on a run and gun line if he has the backup of an elite 5v5 center.
I would straight-up prefer Zibanejad to Eichel.
People are seriously underestimating what a festering cyst Eichel, Panarin, and Fox on the same powerplay is going to look like. 145 seconds of sustained control where the team killing the penalty somehow has more shots.
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