Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

[LORDE]

I don’t remember the exact numbers, but the NHL turned down a deal with ESPN originally worth somewhere around $1B. Versus offered more and they went with them.

You can’t convince me otherwise that the extra visibility ESPN would’ve offered the NHL wouldn’t have netted them more money in the long term. It’s a mistake the NHL is still paying for because they chose a channel whose next biggest draw was f***ing hunting and fishing competitions.

VS, formerly OLN "Outdoor Life Network" lol was owned by Comcast at that point if I'm correct... they changed the name to VS and then bought NBC/UNI as well, including all of their regionals & Golf Channel.

They combined the Comcast regionals with the NBC regional assets and rebranded everything under the NBC Sports brand. They then handed control of ALL of those entities to NBC Sports Management.

Whether that was in the works, hence the NHL getting on board at the time of VS, or not... the end result was a network deal giving us all the joy of watching Pierre stroke Crosby and the Pens for years.

 

[GAGLine]

Not having him at all saves the whole contract.

And then we would just sign someone else of similar quality, who will almost certainly cost more against the cap (NHL minimum is 775k next season and Leschyshyn has a 766,667 cap hit). It may only be 10k more, but still. When you're pinching pennies, ever penny counts.

Teams need depth and with the cap being so tight, they need cheap depth. Sometimes cheap trumps good. At least with Leschyshyn, his age suggests there is still a chance, however slim, that he can improve. More than likely, he'll end up in Hartford or some other team will claim him off waivers, if not this year, then next year.

 

[Machinehead]

And then we would just sign someone else of similar quality, who will almost certainly cost more against the cap (NHL minimum is 775k next season and Leschyshyn has a 766,667 cap hit). It may only be 10k more, but still. When you're pinching pennies, ever penny counts.

Teams need depth and with the cap being so tight, they need cheap depth. Sometimes cheap trumps good. At least with Leschyshyn, his age suggests there is still a chance, however slim, that he can improve. More than likely, he'll end up in Hartford or some other team will claim him off waivers, if not this year, then next year.

What was so horribly wrong with Brodzkinski that he had to be replaced?

Adding 100% of a plug's AAV to your books to bring in another plug who's much worse seems like exactly the move you don't make in a cap crunch.

 

[GAGLine]

What was so horribly wrong with Brodzkinski that he had to be replaced?

Adding 100% of a plug's AAV to your books to bring in another plug who's much worse seems like exactly the move you don't make in a cap crunch.

It wasn't about replacing Brodzinski. It was about adding more depth in addition to Brodzinski. It was a move made for next season, not this season.

They are both marginal players at best. Are we really losing anything by replacing Brodz with Lesch? Neither will be in the lineup come the playoffs, barring significant injuries.

You're making way too much out of something that is just a cheap depth add.

 

[McRanger92]

Said it yesterday but Kravtsov should swallow whatever pride he has left and do what Blais did in HFD for 2 weeks. He just got a 9 day vacation and now he is back to being a scratch, who is that helping? At least he could play top minutes in the AHL and get into game shape. At this point I see him more as a top 9 contributor next year, but it would be nice to have him game ready in case of injury later in the season.

Blais i dont expect will be here much longer. Gauthier & Cuylle are better than him at the things he once did well. I still envision him being a piece that makes the cap work in a deadline deal, and I think St. Louis would be interested in getting him back as a throw-in.

 

[Machinehead]

It wasn't about replacing Brodzinski. It was about adding more depth in addition to Brodzinski. It was a move made for next season, not this season.

They are both marginal players at best. Are we really losing anything by replacing Brodz with Lesch? Neither will be in the lineup come the playoffs, barring significant injuries.

You're making way too much out of something that is just a cheap depth add.

It just doesn't make sense.

"We added a $762k cap hit we absolutely didn't need to add because it's cheap."

If it's just for depth, they could put Brodzinski in. Hell, they could put Rydahl in. They both carry marginally lower hits. Ryan Carpenter carries a lower hit.

They lit money on fire and the justification you're giving me is that it wasn't that much money.

 

[McRanger92]

If Leschysyn had a less annoying name to spell, people wouldnt dislike him so much (myself included)

 

[GAGLine]

It just doesn't make sense.

"We added a $762k cap hit we absolutely didn't need to add because it's cheap."

If it's just for depth, they could put Brodzinski in. Hell, they could put Rydahl in. They both carry marginally lower hits. Ryan Carpenter carries a lower hit.

They lit money on fire and the justification you're giving me is that it wasn't that much money.

You understand that he can be placed in Hartford and cost us nothing, right?

If he wasn't on the roster right now, Brodzinski would be, and they cost basically the same thing. And like I said, this is a move for next season, to give us another cheap option as an injury replacement.

Leschyshyn costs 766,667. Brodz is 762,500. It's a difference of $4,167 over an entire season. That's what you are complaining about.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

If Leschysyn had a less annoying name to spell, people wouldnt dislike him so much (myself included)

I'd dislike him just as much if not more because I'd have an easier time complaining about him.

I don't really understand wtf Drury is doing with him + holding onto the other 3 deadweights on the roster.

 

[Machinehead]

If Leschysyn had a less annoying name to spell, people wouldnt dislike him so much (myself included)

It doesn't help!

Also you spelled it wrong.

It still doesn't get me past "hey we have absolutely no money, but here's $762k we're spending for literally no reason."

The Rangers have four better players than whatever his name is sitting in the minors. We didn't have a shortage of depth.

 

[leetch99]

If Lucic is dressed tonight....then Cuylee is in .

 

[Machinehead]

You understand that he can be placed in Hartford and cost us nothing, right?

Good! That's where I want him!

Somehow you took umbrage with that.

 

[Machinehead]

Gallant hockey

This looks amazing tbf

 

[McRanger92]

I'd dislike him just as much if not more because I'd have an easier time complaining about him.

I don't really understand wtf Drury is doing with him + holding onto the other 3 deadweights on the roster.

It is puzzling that he's here, especially when Jonny B is better and has more of a history with the team. I could be wrong but I feel like Lesch was claimed around the time Kreider was injured, maybe they wanted another "NHL" body and know Brodz will get claimed and Lesch wont? Still seems dumb. And i know people are calling for Rydahl but he has apparently been getting hurt once a week. 4C is probably an area we are going to see upgraded, because they clearly prefer Goodrow at wing.

If Lucic is dressed tonight....then Cuylee is in .

Happy 21st birthday Will! Your gift is a fight with Milan Lucic in your 3rd career NHL game, no pressure lol

 

[GAGLine]

Good! That's where I want him!

Somehow you took umbrage with that.

Lol. I never once stated that Leschyshyn should or shouldn't be in Hartford.

You asked why he was signed. I told you. You then responded by saying "Not having him at all saves the whole contract" and I explained to you why that wasn't true.

Whatever. You can keep being pissed off about a nothing move.

 

[Machinehead]

It is puzzling that he's here, especially when Jonny B is better and has more of a history with the team. I could be wrong but I feel like Lesch was claimed around the time Kreider was injured, maybe they wanted another "NHL" body and know Brodz will get claimed and Lesch wont? Still seems dumb. And i know people are calling for Rydahl but he has apparently been getting hurt once a week. 4C is probably an area we are going to see upgraded, because they clearly prefer Goodrow at wing.

One of the selling points on Goodrow was "this guy can play anywhere"

I guess f***in not.

 

[Lion Hound]

Why would they need to get to 22?

I was thinking they were over the roster limit but its 23.

 

[McRanger92]

One of the selling points on Goodrow was "this guy can play anywhere"

I guess f***in not.

I dont really mind him as a wing on the Kreider-Trocheck line tbh

 

[Machinehead]

Lol. I never once stated that Leschyshyn should or shouldn't be in Hartford.

You asked why he was signed. I told you. You then responded by saying "Not having him at all saves the whole contract" and I explained to you why that wasn't true.

Whatever. You can keep being pissed off about a nothing move.

I'm pissed off that he's playing games.

Having a body around in case Brodzinski, Rydahl, and Carpenter all perish in a horrible inferno -and ignoring that league minimum players aren't hard to find at all and 99% of them are better than Lescysysch- if I just pretend that's not true, then I kind of almost get that part.

The part I don't get is that he somehow moved to the top of that list despite being the worst player.

You can say it's nothing, but it wasn't nothing when Tampa scored in game 5 off of a Rooney turnover.

 

[Lion Hound]

I wonder if the Blues would see something like Tarasenko for Goodrow and Hajek as both a sell and a win now/soon. They aren't bringing Tarasenko back next season and Goodrow has manageable term the Blues can plan around.

Likewise, is St. Louis on Goodrow's 15-team no-trade list? I can think of 15 worse places to play.

I feel like the Blais is also going to end up back with the Blues. They liked him. If he does well and signs cheap they basically got Buch for nothing.

 

[McRanger92]

I feel like the Blais is also going to end up back with the Blues. They liked him. If he does well and signs cheap they basically got Buch for nothing.

Rangers and Blues are destined to make a trade in some capacity. ROR, Tank, Barbashev, Mikkola, Acciari, Leivo. 6 guys who fit one of our 3 needs (Top 6 RW, Bottom 6 depth, 3rd Pair D).

 

[GAGLine]

The part I don't get is that he somehow moved to the top of that list despite being the worst player.

You can say it's nothing, but it wasn't nothing when Tampa scored in game 5 off of a Rooney turnover.

This is the last thing I'm going to post on this topic.

Leschyshyn is getting a chance to show what he can do in that role, same as Brodzinski did and Carpenter before him. The difference between these players at the NHL level is marginal, no matter what your charts say, and none of them are likely to be in the lineup come playoff time, barring injuries. Drury will add depth at the deadline.

I find it funny that you as an analytics person point to one single play in the playoffs to make your argument. Talk about small sample sizes. How many times a game does Panarin turn the puck over? Remember Goodrow's backward pass directly to the other team a month or so back? Remember Kakko turning it over while cycling at the blue line, leading to a goal against? Every player turns the puck over at times. It happens. The other team is trying to win too.

You're getting yourself all worked up because one shitty player is playing over another shitty player for a brief period in the middle of the season.

 

[Machinehead]

This is the last thing I'm going to post on this topic.

Leschyshyn is getting a chance to show what he can do in that role, same as Brodzinski did and Carpenter before him. The difference between these players at the NHL level is marginal, no matter what your charts say, and none of them are likely to be in the lineup come playoff time, barring injuries. Drury will add depth at the deadline.

I find it funny that you as an analytics person point to one single play in the playoffs to make your argument. Talk about small sample sizes. How many times a game does Panarin turn the puck over? Remember Goodrow's backward pass directly to the other team a month or so back? Remember Kakko turning it over while cycling at the blue line, leading to a goal against? Every player turns the puck over at times. It happens. The other team is trying to win too.

You're getting yourself all worked up because one shitty player is playing over another shitty player for a brief period in the middle of the season.

Yes, I'm worked up. Congrats, I guess. You got me.

I just don't get why we have to have a piece of shit player every single year.

The risk is minimal but it takes no effort to mitigate the risk.

Not having horrible players is like buckling your seatbelt. There's a 99.9999999% chance it doesn't make a difference on this trip and there's a decent chance it never makes a difference, but it literally takes two seconds.

We could just not employ one of the league's worst skaters by just going *click*.

You could say the difference from Brodzinski is marginal, but it's like asking if I want $5 or $20. Neither one is paying my mortgage but I want the $20. Why wouldn't I?

 

[Deleted member 23124]

I was thinking they were over the roster limit but its 23.

Ahhhhhh......I suspected as much.

 

[Machinehead]

Also, I wish I had a dollar for every time "this guy won't play" played.