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Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

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Machinehead said:
He's not. He has 17 points.

NHL games are averaging over six goals for the first time since 05-06. I could put up 17 in 48.

I like Vesey. He's an effective 4th liner and I'm fine with him slotting up in a pinch.

He shouldn't be there regularly.
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that's 3rd liner type production

he is a 4th liner punching above his weight.

Maybe give Gauthier a chance in the top9

EdJovanovski said:
Gallant hockey
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duhmetreE said:
that's 3rd liner type production
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No it's not.

Vesey is 311th among forwards in p/60.

It's certainly in the 99th percentile of 4th liners but it's not a 3rd liner.

I don't think the Rangers board realizes just how much scoring is up because the Rangers are really bad at scoring.

Last year at the all-star break, Kreider led the NHL with 33 goals. This year, five guys have 33 goals and the high is 41. And scoring was already way up last year. It's way up again.

Again, I don't think it matters, they all suck. It's certainly an indictment on the kids who will not or may not crack 40 points.
 
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Machinehead said:
No it's not.

Vesey is 311th among forwards in p/60.

It's certainly in the 99th percentile of 4th liners but it's not a 3rd liner.

I don't think the Rangers board realizes just how much scoring is up because the Rangers are really bad at scoring.

Last year at the all-star break, Kreider led the NHL with 33 goals. This year, five guys have 33 goals and the high is 41. And scoring was already way up last year. It's way up again.

Again, I don't think it matters, they all suck. It's certainly an indictment on the kids who will not or may not crack 40 points.
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do even-strength,

he was 2hundred something in EVP. that's 3rd line production in my book

and he has good metrics... isn't tthat like your #1 criteria?

we do suck at even-strength scoring all around
 
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duhmetreE said:
do even-strength

he was 2hundred something in EVP. that's 3rd line production in my book

and he has good metrics... isn't tthat like your #1 criteria?

we do suck at even-strength scoring all around
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That actually drops him to 367th.

That's because when top six and bottom six are all in the sample, it's not necessarily a sample where you need to ignore special teams. You kinda just already know the deal. I digress.

Keep in mind that the "fancy stats" don't count empty net as even strength. He has a not insignificant amount of those.

Yes, he has good metics. I think he's a great asset. He's a 4th liner with good metics. He's a 4th liner who's a great asset.

It's not a criticism. This team could turn Jagr into a plug which is why we have to keep relying on rentals who came here having played real Earth hockey elsewhere.

Apropos of nothing, McDavid leads the league by almost an entire point per 60 over second place. I just think that's cool.
 
It's within the realm of possibility that Filip Chytil could score between 25 and 30 even strength goals this year. That's actually impressive.

He's doing what we tried to tell ourselves Lafreniere was doing.

By all means, Rongos, keep prioritizing Trocheck's TOI.
 
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IDvsEGO said:
Staal was also completely ass.
Proper send off, we were calling for his head.
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RangerBoy said:
www.sportsnet.ca

Bettman confirms Toronto will host 2024 All-Star Game; addresses Provorov controversy

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman confirmed the worst-kept secret in South Florida on Saturday, announcing — right before the puck dropped on the 2023 All-Star Game — that the 2024 event would be hosted by the Toronto Maple Leafs.
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Bettman also said revenue may hit $6B this year. That doesn’t exactly add up.
 
Yeah we're up to a leaguewide 3.15 goals per team per game which is the highest since 95'. Even the 05-06 season that was skewed due to overexuberant reffing wasn't as high. Goaltending is down to .906 from where it peaked at .915 in 2015.

The league has a lot of top end talent that are getting very efficient at finding ways to put the puck in the net, despite the fact that as far as I'm concerned- goaltending (technique and efficiency) is as high as it's ever been.
 
Machinehead said:
That actually drops him to 367th.

That's because when top six and bottom six are all in the sample, it's not necessarily a sample where you need to ignore special teams. You kinda just already know the deal. I digress.

Keep in mind that the "fancy stats" don't count empty net as even strength. He has a not insignificant amount of those.

Yes, he has good metics. I think he's a great asset. He's a 4th liner with good metics. He's a 4th liner who's a great asset.

It's not a criticism. This team could turn Jagr into a plug which is why we have to keep relying on rentals who came here having played real Earth hockey elsewhere.

Apropos of nothing, McDavid leads the league by almost an entire point per 60 over second place. I just think that's cool.
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what site are you using?
 
Fitzy said:
Yeah we're up to a leaguewide 3.15 goals per team per game which is the highest since 95'. Even the 05-06 season that was skewed due to overexuberant reffing wasn't as high. Goaltending is down to .906 from where it peaked at .915 in 2015.

The league has a lot of top end talent that are getting very efficient at finding ways to put the puck in the net, despite the fact that as far as I'm concerned- goaltending (technique and efficiency) is as high as it's ever been.
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CISED REVOLUTION

this is what the league wanted. More scoring = more ratings.

I dream of a day when we have a legit top5 offense in the league.
 
Fitzy said:
Yeah we're up to a leaguewide 3.15 goals per team per game which is the highest since 95'. Even the 05-06 season that was skewed due to overexuberant reffing wasn't as high. Goaltending is down to .906 from where it peaked at .915 in 2015.

The league has a lot of top end talent that are getting very efficient at finding ways to put the puck in the net, despite the fact that as far as I'm concerned- goaltending (technique and efficiency) is as high as it's ever been.
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I think the equipment has a lot to do with it.

When the butterfly took over, you couldn't beat it clean. It had to been broken plays or royal road. Only a shot right past the ears could beat a goalie.

These sticks now are like aluminum bats and they don't weigh anything. They can beat the butterfly clean.

There have been a lot of goals this year were Joe is trying very hard to hallucinate a screen or a tip and I'm like "it just beat him, Joe." And Igor is obviously an excellent goaltender.

The funny thing is, clutching and grabbing is pretty much back to not being called. We're basically in 80's lite playing 5-4 rugby matches.
 
Machinehead said:
No it's not.

Vesey is 311th among forwards in p/60.

It's certainly in the 99th percentile of 4th liners but it's not a 3rd liner.

I don't think the Rangers board realizes just how much scoring is up because the Rangers are really bad at scoring.

Last year at the all-star break, Kreider led the NHL with 33 goals. This year, five guys have 33 goals and the high is 41. And scoring was already way up last year. It's way up again.

Again, I don't think it matters, they all suck. It's certainly an indictment on the kids who will not or may not crack 40 points.
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Scoring is up, because teams are putting up 7 or 8 goals against the Ducks. :sarcasm:
 
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kovazub94 said:
Inflation is kicking in anticipation of a rising cap starting in 2024.
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Yeah, figured that’s the case. Still think it’s a lot of a 50-60 point 2C. But we didn’t sign him, so really am not going to dwell on it anymore, lol.
 
Leonardo87 said:
Scoring is up, because teams are putting up 7 or 8 goals against the Ducks. :sarcasm:
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True!

But for real tho, the hard cap has limited the amount of Mickey Mouse teams in the league and prevented teams from forming gluts of talent.

Back in the 80's, the Oilers had a national team roster up against some bonafide sub-NHL competition.

It makes this scoring boom even more remarkable.

I also love that ratings are down amidst nuclear scoring. I shouted for years on the main boards that scoring wasn't the panacea to viewership. Soccer is more popular than religion. That tells you how important scoring is to popularity.
 
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