I think it’s more likely that they deal both firsts than keep both of them.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted
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1. Barbashev for Kratvsov straight up or plus?
2. Watson/Holden for Jones/5th
3 (not required, extra) Bug/Stetcher for Hajek/a pick or prospect (a 3rd or someone like Laba?)
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Pan Zibs Barbashev
Krieds Tro Bjugstad
Watson Goodrow Vesey
(Gauthier/Lesch/Brodz/Carp)
3rd pair/spares: Holden Schneider
(Harpur/Stetcher/Robertson)
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Why would they do that when a higher cap would be worse for the majority of players?
Why does everyone want to bring Motte back so badly? So he can end up on the IR 5 games after the deadline?
I think it’s more likely they one stop shop W STL
Gonna cost picks and Kravtsov
Panarin , Zib, Barbashev
Kreider , Trotchek , Goodrow
Laf, Chytil , Kakko
Vesey, Acciari, Gauthier
Blais
Lindgren , Fox
Miller , Trouba
Mikkola, Schneider
Harpur
Igor
Halak
So what’s going to happen with the giant elephant in the room? If gallant is not going to play him, and even though he has played well, still nothing earth shattering. It may be time to move on if he cannot get the ice time and opportunities here and that’s not saying he won’t figure it out somewhere else.
Quinn has the SJ team playing hard. They beat Pittsburgh last night. Pittsburgh is not very good. They should have beaten Carolina on Friday night.
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The lines, as currently constructed, don't have a spot for him and he's not a 4th line guy. I can't think of anyone on the top 3 that should slot on the 4th line to make room for him.
Unfortunately, the Rangers will probably have to trade him instead of letting him "cook" a little longer and get stronger.
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It would be so NHL to see Pittsburgh miss and fall ass backwards into Bedard. If that happens, I'm making an appointment with my PCP the next day and having them start me on blood pressure medication.
SJ is going to clean house this summer. Meier, Lebanc, maybe Karlsson all going to be dealt. Who's not getting dealt there? Couture? That team needs a reset badly.
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking. Right now with how Kakko and Chytil have played, Laf looking better, it’s very hard to pencil him into that Top 6/9. Jimmy Vesey for one has outplayed him and is a big factor for our PK .
It’s unfortunate but it is what it is.
The NHLPA will have a new executive director soon. It looks like Mike Gillis will be the new NHLPA executive director. Gillis brings a diverse amount of experience to the role. Former NHL player. Former player agent. Former NHL GM with Vancouver.
The salary cap could increase by more than $1M if the big market team NHL revenue teams have good playoff runs.
Bettman and Gillis will need to have a conversation.
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For what though? There are not really that many options out there you would even trade that 1st to.
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If that happens, Drury needs to be fired.
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I think that's highly, no, HIGHLY unlikely.
It won't be easy to deal Karlsson's $11.5M contract. What's the big deal about Lebanc? Grier should have bought Lebanc out last summer. Grier should get a good deal for Meier. One thing about Grier is his trades and signings have not been very good.
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I'd take a 3rd for Kravtsov in this draft.
I'd take a 3rd in ANY draft tbh lol...
Imagining this cupcake playing playoff hockey against anyone in the east minus the Devils makes me want to fart.
Twist my arm ever so daintily, and I'll throw in Jovo too.
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I jinx players.
Kravtsov is still developing. He’s far from a finished product. I see no reason why a decision has to be made on him this deadline. He can play another 15 games and continue to get stronger. His contract will be cheap next year. If the team can’t find a top 9 spot for him, then move him at the draft
It takes two to sign a contract. Kravtsov has already voiced his displeasure with his use/deployment once... Do we think he signs another contract?
I am against dealing either 1st in this year’s draft and they might not have to with this year being a buyer’s market. But based on what we are reading/hearing, I am more inclined to give up the 2024 1st over the 2023 2nd round pick. If you can keep the (2) 1sts and 2nd in 2023 i am perfectly fine giving up both the 2024 1st and 2nd round picks. The 2023 3rd round pick is from the Avs so that could feel more like a 4th round pick. You have Jones and Kravtsov who don’t seem to be a fit here. I am more inclined to deal Jones than Kravtsov. I think a 2024 1st and 2nd plus Jones can get you Tarasenko and RoR/Barbashev. Might have to add a B level prospect in there. Maybe Chelmar or Vaisanen has increased their value from the WJCs.
The 3rd round pick can likely get you the depth Defenseman you are looking for.
A 4th or 5th can get you Motte/Leivo — whoever you think checks off the most boxes of health/defensive metrics/possession metrics/physical play/etc. Erne could be in that grouo too. Maybe Watson, although I am not a huge fan of his.
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They won't. This is what the players agreed to in exchange for getting full salaries for the shortened season and capping escrow at 20%.
They have the opportunity to negotiate a larger increase for next year if the NHL doesn't get enough revenue to completely pay off the escrow debt. Barring that, the cap will go up significantly in 2024.
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Why would a higher cap be worse for a majority of players? More money to sign bigger contracts hurts them how?
Not at all saying I think they should strike, just trying to get a handle on your logic.
The Rangers qualify him and retain his rights until he is 27.
I guess in that case the Rangers can play the long game with Kravtsov. I doubt he has a real role on this year’s team outside of injuries hitting. Then you can qualify him and pencil him into the top 9 to start next year.
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Get a 2nd or 3rd for him and use it at this deadline.
Keep those 1sts Chris and root for Dallas to suck hard after the All Star break.
I don’t think they will but anyone who thinks they won’t take a big swing in the next few weeks (barring a collapse of course) is kidding themselves.
Dadonov, Erne, Barbashev - Like I can see them coming away with one of these guys (Erne fits in several ways) but I can’t see them limiting themselves to just this group of player.
I think he deals one and keeps one fwiw. I just hope that Patrick Kane is not involved.
It’d be nice if Panarin could go back to being Hartemi, that would be the biggest deadline pickup
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