Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

[leetch99]

Only way that's acceptable is if Meier comes in ( for around $8M ) and add another good 'depth' guy for $3-4M,

Would you rather have Panarin or something like Meier and Greenway?

I just want old Panarin back

Half a season of Panarin and Trouba on LTIR at different times would likely counter that cap amount needed . We may as well follow the TB playbook with LTIR . Just throwing crap out and seeing what sticks....who knows what the plan is ? I don't nor does anyone else in our group.

 

[surlysailor]

Gut feeling Kravtsov and Jones in a deal for Barbashev before or at the deadline.

I doubt the nyr will trade 2 prospects for a rental. I think it would be its most likely a 2nd and Jones. iirc drury really championed for nyr to pick him in his draft year. Also if they didn’t give him away during krav refusing Hartford I doubt he moves him for another goodrow. Besides last season Barbie has pretty much the same career as goodrow

 

[Daves a mess]

Keep hearing that the Devils are going to be "extremely busy" at the deadline and are willing to push chips in the middle to take a run in the playoffs. Curious to see how that effects ( if it all) Drury's decision making on Trade Deadline Day.

I remember years ago JD talking about trades being made solely to try to keep up with rivals who are close in the standings, and GMs trying to acquire a player partially so said rival doesn't get them.

 

[NYR Viper]

Just go get Leivo and Barbeshev for a 2nd round pick and be done with it.

 

[Off Sides]

Gut feeling Kravtsov and Jones in a deal for Barbashev before or at the deadline.

I too think those two are likely the players to be moved. It's insane that the Rangers do not value them. Rangers are going to need some sort of inexpensive top 9 RW going forward, Krav could be that. Rangers are going to need an inexpensive RD who can move the puck, especially if Fox is ever injured, giving him away for nothing is also a mistake.

 

[McRanger92]

…and once punched Igor Shesterkin in the head…just because.

I thought that was Georgiev? He definitely sat on Georgie's head at one point. I certainly wouldn't mind a guy who will get in the opposing goalie's kitchen for once

 

[duhmetreE]

I dont give up on Kravtsov yet.

I do put him with the best trainers and give him some special Russian horse meat and supplements over the summer.

He will be a player if he wasn't a stick figure. He's 6'3 180. That's worse than Howden. It will take a year of training... newbie gains, he can add 20lbs of muscle easily

 

[SA16]

Ivan Barbashev is not good and I am not sure why anyone wants him. Oh, I know why, because he shot 23% last year and had 2 hits/game.

 

[McRanger92]

I think we all could use it. This season just hasn't been that fun with half-assed laugh at everything Panarin, try too hard Trochek, Sammy Skate With the E-Break Blais, and Stubborn Gallant among many other problems.

This team could be saving that extra gear come April but until then, we don't know.

In terms of post-2004-05 lockout years the Rangers have been competitive, I'd say so far, it's less fun than even 2008-09, 2012-13, 2013-14 Regular Season (the regular season was a headache until they figured it out in the playoffs), and 2015-16.

The raised expectations have been tough on the team and fans. Theyve had a solid season, but it feels underwhelming because of how we left so many points on the table against bad teams early. I do think the break is coming at the best possible time. The majority of the team getting a week and a half break right past the midway point of the season. Trouba & Kreider need to get their bodies and head's right and Ior could used the rest because I think they may ride him like vintage Hank down the stretch.

After the break we have 13 games left to figure out what our needs are pre-deadline. Then a 20 game stretch run with only 2 games against non-Eastern Conference opponents. It wouldn't shock me to see Drury active during the bye, we have a stretch of 6/7 on the road including Western Canada in mid-February where I think reinforcements would help.

 

[BBKers]

Tarasenko (at ~50%), Barbashev for our 2023 1st, 2022 2nd, S. Blais, a midlevel prospect and L. Hajek
Nick Bjugstad for J. Gauthier and a 6th
Olli Maata and a 3rd/4th rounder for Zach Jones and Karl Henriksson

Bread - Zib - Tarasenko
Kids
Kreider - Trochek - Barbashev
Vesey - Goodrow - Bjugstad
Kravtsov

Lindgren - Fox
Miller - Captain
Maata - Schneider
Harpur

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Keep hearing that the Devils are going to be "extremely busy" at the deadline and are willing to push chips in the middle to take a run in the playoffs. Curious to see how that effects ( if it all) Drury's decision making on Trade Deadline Day.

They have less cap space than we do.

 

[NYR Viper]

Tarasenko (at ~50%), Barbashev for our 2023 1st, 2022 2nd, S. Blais, a midlevel prospect and L. Hajek
Nick Bjugstad for J. Gauthier and a 6th
Olli Maata and a 3rd/4th rounder for Zach Jones and Karl Henriksson

Bread - Zib - Tarasenko
Kids
Kreider - Trochek - Barbashev
Vesey - Goodrow - Bjugstad
Kravtsov

Lindgren - Fox
Miller - Captain
Maata - Schneider
Harpur

That's too much for rentals...

I don't hate the idea of Bjugstad. What type of contract would he be looking for next season? Maybe another guy who might re-up for a year or two at a discounted rate that might fit in well here

 

[BBKers]

That's too much for rentals...

I don't hate the idea of Bjugstad. What type of contract would he be looking for next season? Maybe another guy who might re-up for a year or two at a discounted rate that might fit in well here

I hope you are right regarding the presumed price. But I am sure Drury will be busy. 100%

 

[McRanger92]

Tarasenko (at ~50%), Barbashev for our 2023 1st, 2022 2nd, S. Blais, a midlevel prospect and L. Hajek
Nick Bjugstad for J. Gauthier and a 6th
Olli Maata and a 3rd/4th rounder for Zach Jones and Karl Henriksson

Bread - Zib - Tarasenko
Kids
Kreider - Trochek - Barbashev
Vesey - Goodrow - Bjugstad
Kravtsov

Lindgren - Fox
Miller - Captain
Maata - Schneider
Harpur

As long as it fits with the cap, giddy up

 

[McRanger92]

Thinking the future cap situation over, it's an absolute no brainer for the Rangers to buy out Goodrow no matter what this summer. With the cap credit for the next 2 years, we gain 3.8 & 3.7 mil in space over the next 2 years, at a time when we need to extend Miller/Chytil/Lafreniere/Lindgren/Kakko/Schneider. vesey & Trocheck can both handle the responsibility Goody was brought in for. It also buys us time for Kreider/Trouba's NMCs to become NTCs. Theres a poison pill in 26-27 season where we will be paying above his current cap hit for 1 season, but that corresponds with the expiration of Panarin's contract, and the cap will have significantly increased by then.

If I'm Drury, I pull the plug on Goodrow and try to get Miller & Chytil to sign 6-7 year extensions

 

[NYR Viper]

Thinking the future cap situation over, it's an absolute no brainer for the Rangers to buy out Goodrow no matter what this summer. With the cap credit for the next 2 years, we gain 3.8 & 3.7 mil in space over the next 2 years, at a time when we need to extend Miller/Chytil/Lindgren/Kakko/Schneider. vesey & Trocheck can both handle the responsibility Goody was brought in for. It also buys us time for Kreider/Trouba's NMCs to become NTCs. Theres a poison pill in 26-27 season where we will be paying above his current cap hit for 1 season, but that corresponds with the expiration of Panarin's contract, and the cap will have significantly increased by then.

If I'm Drury, I pull the plug on Goodrow and try to get Miller & Chytil to sign 6-7 year extensions

I keep coming back to the fact that a NMC doesn't absolutely preclude a trade. It's going to be difficult to find a home for someone like Kreider due to the cap issues around the league but if a player sees the writing on the wall, they may prefer to be traded when they have absolute control rather than wait another season when it slips through their fingers and they have a longer list they can't say no to.

 

[McRanger92]

I keep coming back to the fact that a NMC doesn't absolutely preclude a trade. It's going to be difficult to find a home for someone like Kreider due to the cap issues around the league but if a player sees the writing on the wall, they may prefer to be traded when they have absolute control rather than wait another season when it slips through their fingers and they have a longer list they can't say no to.

Very fair point. Kreider is tough because he would be much more of a loss than Panarin for Trouba. He is on a sweetheart deal and is our 2nd best all situations forward (Wednesday's game notwithstanding). I think the Rangers will be highly motivated to find a new home for Panarin, but if they cant it may be Kreider who goes. They need the cap relief and to open a top 6 LW spot for Laf going forward. If they cant do either, Goodrow buyout is a no brainer.

 

[MrAlmost]

I dont give up on Kravtsov yet.

I do put him with the best trainers and give him some special Russian horse meat and supplements over the summer.

He will be a player if he wasn't a stick figure. He's 6'3 180. That's worse than Howden. It will take a year of training... newbie gains, he can add 20lbs of muscle easily

I dont think that is a thing unless he is taking something, even if he is a newbie and young. 20lbs of muscle is insane.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I dont give up on Kravtsov yet.

I do put him with the best trainers and give him some special Russian horse meat and supplements over the summer.

He will be a player if he wasn't a stick figure. He's 6'3 180. That's worse than Howden. It will take a year of training... newbie gains, he can add 20lbs of muscle easily

He's actually 6'5, there is propaganda to make him shorter. See him next to Kakko who's 6'3 and Krav towers over him. Krav is exact same height as K'Andre who's 6'5. I swear Krav used to be listed at 6'5 on some sites and 6'4 on others, now they shrunk him to 6'3

 

[Fitzy]

I don't think Chytil has proven enough yet for a long term extension.

The problem, of course, is that he's getting close to UFA eligibility so another bridge would be very difficult and probably not satisfying to the player.

4x4 seems like a 'split the dif' solution

 

[McRanger92]

I don't think Chytil has proven enough yet for a long term extension.

The problem, of course, is that he's getting close to UFA eligibility so another bridge would be very difficult and probably not satisfying to the player.

4x4 seems like a 'split the dif' solution

What more does a homegrown 23 year old center need to prove? You have to believe in your own guys at some point.

 

[EdJovanovski]

lol

 

[Fitzy]

What more does a homegrown 23 year old center need to prove? You have to believe in your own guys at some point.

The sub 40% faceoffs and 17% shooting percentage this season are both niggling points of concern for me.

I also think if you're going to pay him 2C money, we need to use him in more situations. He should be learning to kill penalties.

One of the benefits to having three solid centers is that if they all play all situations, you really don't need a good 4C at all. if Chytil were to take to the PK it would make Goodrow that much more expendable.

 

[NYR Viper]

lol

Good for him. He seems like a good team guy and a good guy to have in the organization. He worked is way up from an AHL PTO.

 

[IDvsEGO]

The sub 40% faceoffs and 17% shooting percentage this season are both niggling points of concern for me.

I also think if you're going to pay him 2C money, we need to use him in more situations. He should be learning to kill penalties.

One of the benefits to having three solid centers is that if they all play all situations, you really don't need a good 4C at all. if Chytil were to take to the PK it would make Goodrow that much more expendable.

How long was Mika a sub 40% faceoff guy? Let’s not raise the bar for proving it for our homegrown kid…