Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

[mas0764]

Build Drury a statue if he can offload the Breadman and replace him with Meier.

Pastrnak.

 

[McRanger92]

I would be shocked if there was a massive offering to the Sharks if it did not include the acquiring team already speaking with Meier and agreeing on an extension.

Id probably trade Laf and a 1st (maybe both?) if we could get Timo on an extension within reason. He's a stud.

Pastrnak.

I mean yeah in a perfect world. Boston wont let him leave though

 

[NYR Viper]

Id probably trade Laf and a 1st (maybe both?) if we could get Timo on an extension within reason. He's a stud.



I mean yeah in a perfect world. Boston wont let him leave though

The issue is, trading Lafreniere makes NO SENSE in terms of the cap. And trading the future for a run now, to me, is a bad move.

 

[duhmetreE]

If Anaheim wins the lotto.... Would they be more inclined to trade a Zegras or McTavish?

I see we've gone mad in here.

 

[EdJovanovski]

If Anaheim wins the lotto.... Would they be more inclined to trade a Zegras or McTavish?

Zegra is the money maker and one of the next faces of the NHL, they aren't trading him. Our only hope is him signing with us when he's finally a UFA

 

[Leonardo87]

If Anaheim wins the lotto.... Would they be more inclined to trade a Zegras or McTavish?

Probably not. Bedard would play wing with McTavish at C, while Zegras stays at C. He played on McTavish's wing in the WJC.

 

[McRanger92]

The issue is, trading Lafreniere makes NO SENSE in terms of the cap. And trading the future for a run now, to me, is a bad move.

If the Rangers trade for Meier, it wont be for 1 run. It will be for probably 7 or 8 lol. Its the type of move you trade a top prospect for.

 

[NYR Viper]

If the Rangers trade for Meier, it wont be for 1 run. It will be for probably 7 or 8 lol. Its the type of move you trade a top prospect for.

It doesn't fit in the cap though, that's the point. You would enter into an off-season where, if you trade Lafreniere for Meier and then need to trade Kreider for cap space, having only Panarin on LW...

 

[McRanger92]

It doesn't fit in the cap though, that's the point. You would enter into an off-season where, if you trade Lafreniere for Meier and then need to trade Kreider for cap space, having only Panarin on LW...

Kreider isnt going anywhere

 

[duhmetreE]

The best scenario is to get the young forwards all the support/help they need and have them realize their full potential

 

[NYR Viper]

Kreider isnt going anywhere

Then flat out, it won't work for Meier.

 

[duhmetreE]

Kreider isnt going anywhere

Out of all the whipping boys, he never made sense to me.

He's the only one that outperforms his contract and role. He's the last guy you trade

 

[McRanger92]

Then flat out, it won't work for Meier.

Eh we'll see. Rangers are trying to win a Cup in the next 3 years, I would not be surprised to see them try to get creative. Every move made going forward should be looked at with that goal in mind.

 

[duhmetreE]

Then flat out, it won't work for Meier.

Meier is a pipedream.

We're hard pressed to afford our own kids how we going to afford another 8-10M winger?

 

[McRanger92]

Meier is a pipedream.

We're hard pressed to afford our own kids how we going to afford another 8-10M winger?

They shouldve trade for Meier last year. Id still take him as a straight rental though. He's the best player out there by a country mile

 

[McRanger92]

How about Tony Duclair as a RW option with some finish? I know he's got another year left but it's only 3 mil AAV and probably easily moveable in the offseason.

I never loved him as a player but he fits the mold of a useful player that a cap strapped team may give away for nothing, like Vatrano last year.

 

[duhmetreE]

They shouldve trade for Meier last year. Id still take him as a straight rental though. He's the best player out there by a country mile

he's going to cost a lot. I'm not interested in crazy expensive rentals tbh

If there's a move to be made, it'd happen in the offseason. With Panarin and/or Trouba on the move. Things can change though... Panarin showed he can still play up to his potential, in a way... his first couple weeks this season were vintage 2019 Panarin... then it all fell apart

I want him to be better just like I want the entire offense to be better. Play with more pace and speed. Attack. Look like you practice together. The things that plague Panarin are the same things that plague the rest of the team imo... It's just exacerbated with him

What's the problem? with the team? That's the $1,000,000,000 question... something is rotten. There's a major issue somehwere. That's why I"m a proponent of cleaning house. Not just keep the revolving door of coaches going. All executives/management/training/coaches etc. need to be cleansed.

 

[xsniper11x]

You'll find no argument from me in regards to Panarin not earning his contract. We are a playoff flameout away from a divorce. I don't think Drury is going to sit idly by as his salary cap is strangled by Panarin floating his way through the next 3.5 years.

We can talk all we want about Laf and ice time and the kids, etc., but the biggest issue is that Panarin cant find chemistry with anyone. Who is the common denominator? He's not the player he was pre-Covid and he's not worth 11.6 million anymore. I know parts of the fanbase think he can do no wrong, but the fact is the Rangers are held back because they are paying an 8 million dollar player 11.6 million. Any real salary relief issues start with, "How to we get rid of Panarin?"

100% agree. I think if Bread repeats last year’s PO performance, things will start to get ugly bt him and the front office.

It's not some giant leap in logic to say Bread is an extremely talent player that simply does not fit in w/ this team as currently constructed, whether that be skillset mix, positional need, cap constraints, etc.

He continues to feel like a square peg in a round hole here. That nearly $12mm would go a very long way in locking up kids to attractive contracts vs bridge deals, along w/ injecting some much needed speed throughout the lineup to give our slow footed playmakers more room to work.

 

[McRanger92]

he's going to cost a lot. I'm not interested in crazy expensive rentals tbh

If there's a move to be made, it'd happen in the offseason. With Panarin and/or Trouba on the move. Things can change though... Panarin showed he can still play up to his potential, in a way... his first couple weeks this season were vintage 2019 Panarin... then it all fell apart

I want him to be better just like I want the entire offense to be better. Play with more pace and speed. Attack. Look like your practice. The things that plague Panarin are the same things that plague the rest of the team imo... It's just exacerbated with him

What's the problem? with the team? That's the $1,000,000,000 question... something is rotten. There's a major issue somehwere.

Im telling you, there is going to be an ugly divorce between the Rangers and Panarin if he doesnt show up this postseason. The tea leaves are there, between Drury not being happy last summer, the lackadaisical start to the season, the lack of consistent chemistry with any player on the team. The Rangers cannot win with a Panarin that isnt playing up to his 11.5 mil standards. The overpassing and outside play that permeates the lineup at times stems from him.

This is an organization they changed the trajectory of the franchise on Panarin's behalf post-Wilson and theyve been rewarded with his 2 worst ES strength seasons since then. The roster proved themselves as a team and individuals in the playoffs last year. Panarin scored in Game 7 to win it and basically coasted the rest of the time. The guns will be pointed at him if we cant get it done and he disappoints again, mark my words.

 

[duhmetreE]

Im telling you, there is going to be an ugly divorce between the Rangers and Panarin if he doesnt show up this postseason. The tea leaves are there, between Drury not being happy last summer, the lackadaisical start to the season, the lack of consistent chemistry with any player on the team. The Rangers cannot win with a Panarin that isnt playing up to his 11.5 mil standards. The overpassing and outside play that permeates the lineup at times stems from him.

This is an organization they changed the trajectory of the franchise on Panarin's behalf post-Wilson and theyve been rewarded with his 2 worst ES strength seasons since then. The roster proved themselves as a team and individuals in the playoffs last year. Panarin scored in Game 7 to win it and basically coasted the rest of the time. The guns will be pointed at him if we cant get it done and he disappoints again, mark my words.

My fear is that it's deeper than Panarin. I find it likely, that if/when he'll be moved, he'll quickly turn back into 2019 Panarin.

The New York Rangers swamp needs to be drained.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Only Ranger fans could so spoiled to be gifted with and watch the most dynamic forward the organization has ever had, only to want to run him off cause he isn’t playing what they consider to be “the Ranger way”

Hate to break it to everyone but the Ranger way hasn’t won shit in almost 30 years

 

[mas0764]

If Anaheim wins the lotto.... Would they be more inclined to trade a Zegras or McTavish?

I see we've gone mad in here.

I'd be buzzing around either but ESPECIALLY Zegras.

The best scenario is to get the young forwards all the support/help they need and have them realize their full potential

They really need to try some internal changes before shipping off any prospects.

 

[NYR Viper]

Remember when people wanted to ship off Kaako for nothing?

 

[mas0764]

Remember when people wanted to ship off Kaako for nothing?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

The Rangers got incredibly unlucky with Covid. Their 3 most onerous contracts (Panarin, Trouba, and Kreider) were all signed just prior to the Covid shutdown, and subsequent flat cap. We'd probably be looking at $3-4M less on those contracts had they happened just a year later. I know every team probably has a contract or two like that, but the Rangers spent BIG that summer assuming the cap would keep inflating, yet had something literally unprecedented happen to mess that up.