Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted
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BBKers
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26.1 years. Next year Halak will be gone too... Carpenter as well. Plus a couple youngens in
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Life expectancy also plummeted, so it’s a wash.
JimmyG89
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What future is being mortgaged? On top of the vets we have, Chytil producing at this clip is going to get him a nice raise. Kakko is locked in cheap for 1 more year. Lafreniere is on the last year of his ELC, same for Miller. That's a big part of the future. We'd be mortgaging if pieces like that are moved, it's not happening.
Dallas is a likely playoff team. So it's a mid 1st at best. I'm not saying to trade both, I'd like to have a 1st this year after not having one last year.
This team isn't lacking top 6 options, but to win you need some 2nd liners on your 3rd and 3rd liners on your 4th. Maybe they can get someone lesser and keep both picks, but the candle was lit last season and it has a 4 year expiration. We're 1 year in and before you know it, it's halfway through.
That’s what it is when you trade a first for a rental. Either it pays off or it doesn’t, and I don’t think we’re at a place where it pays off.
nsvoyageurs
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I'd rather have Toews than Kane, and I'm not in love with Toews either.
I'd be intrigued with Timo Meier. I saw him play in Major Junior with Halifax. The price to get him and pay him after this season leaves me unsure. The cap is supposedly going up more than originally thought (has that been confirmed or still a wait-and-see?), but still have to pay Kakko, Lafreniere, Miller, etc. in the not-too-distant future.
I don't know Meier's cap number this year; could the Rangers add him and still add a depth piece or two? They now have about between $4.8-6.6M in deadline cap space with the Reaves trade (I thought I saw $6.6M on here, but Larry had $4.8M in his tweet; could someone here clarify this?)
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It would be foolish to add only 1 player like Kane. It would be much smarter to look for 2. Vancouver is not getting better, Connor Garland?
All I know for sure is Drury will add American players and if he follows last years model, they will be fast and aggressive.
All I know for sure is Drury will add American players and if he follows last years model, they will be fast and aggressive.
JimmyG89
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Cap friendly has 6.6, so that is all but officially the number.
Meier is a 6M cap hit. Retain 50% and you can still go out and get another piece or two if you want to.
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Savant
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Garland has too much term
Meier would be a pure rental. If the team is cool with it it works for me, but it would be a very aggressive move
jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
The Rangers should not be trading higher end cost controlled assets for pure rentals with their cap situation. They need like 14-15 players at a total of $30M next year and the year after is similar or worse
Savant
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“ should” has nothing to do with it. I wouldn’t get too attached to those assets
Bedard will end up like Laf and kaako. Part of the top picks that get outplayed by many players picked after them.
jerseyjinx94
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I’m just saying, that’s the point of this thread right? To discuss what the Rangers should do to build a roster? I agree they will probably do something dumb. I just hope it ends up worth it
Savant
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I would trade Shesterkin straight up to the team that lands 1OA and I love Igor. He could be the second coming of Lundqvist or better. Also this team already has heavy waited contracts that still have term and will be hard to move and if two or more of the 23 and under crowd hit their will be more bloated contracts in our future.
I wouldn’t pass on the opportunity of trading and drafting Bedard.
In the words of Sather when Crosby was just starting in the league, Glen told reporters he would trade is left testicle for Crosby.
Though come to think of it, Slats was a terrible GM here.
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Yes because he was injured. And I’m making the argument that Blais NOW is more valuable to THIS team. And will hopefully hit his potential. You cherry picked from my response. I did not say “only,” in fact I also said they very likely still see in him what they originally saw and why they wanted him in the first place. So it’s doubling down on addressing an important aspect of the team, not a mistake. I don’t agree at all that it was a mistake to get Blais. Maybe it was a mistake to not get MORE than Blais and a 2nd in that trade but not Blais himself. See this is you judging him against what you think was a bad trade two off seasons ago and not just looking at him as a component of the team.
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Savant
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If Blais is not 100%, he is not more valuable to this team. He clearly isn’t 100%. He has zero goals for this team. It’s doubling down on a mistake because they knew he was injury prone, he got injured, and then they re-signed him when he didn’t deserve the contract.
If you think that factoring into the reason that he was re-signed was because he was traded for Buch (which you and I and many others do) then that is doubling down on the mistake. Making a bad trade and then re-signing a bad player because he was in the trade is doubling down.
Blais has shown nothing as a Ranger to prove it was anything other than a mistake. You could have signed a player who hits things and has zero goals for half as much and not have the injury baggage.
I’m not going to spend the day talking about this again though. Drury locked in on Blais. He hasn’t been good and then they re-signed him at the expense of other players. It’s not his best work
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I allowed factoring in the trade as a motivation because I can’t read minds and it is human nature. Looking at Drury though, not resigning Copp, Vatrano or Motte shows it may NOT have been a factor.
I said what I said: I think Blais right now is a more valuable player to this team than Motte. I’m not sure why you want to convince me otherwise. Motte is nothing special and he is a finished product. I see more already in Blais and he is not a finished product.
I appreciate your opinion, but that’s all it is. Like mine.
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I don’t understand how Motte is a finished product at 27 years and Blais isn’t at 26 years old. That doesn’t make sense to me. It also doesn’t make sense to me that Blais is more valuable because there is zero evidence of that. But you are entitled to your feelings
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Blais is clearly far from healthy yet. Hard to Judge until when/If he gets back to 100%
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You don’t get that different players develop at different rates? Especially when one is a bigger physical type and the other isn’t? When one has had his development impacted by injury and one has not?
Our fourth line has been very good lately, for a change, with Blais heavily contributing to that. It makes no sense to me that a guy that hasn’t had a point in ten games and does not bring real physicality would be more valuable, there‘s zero evidence of that.
yes. Feelings, opinions, whatever you want to call them, I’m entitled to mine and you are entitled to yours.
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