Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

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We need to stop talking about the Buch trade. It wasn’t a trade for grit. It was a trade for cap space and lineup flexibility. We had at the time what was perceived to be overflowing prospect depth at that position and lacked certain elements lower down the lineup.

The trade was poorly executed. Bottom line.

That said, Blais was never supposed to come in and produce at anywhere near Buch level. Kakko or Kravtsov were supposed to do that with their new found opportunity.
 
disregarding age here. malkin+crosby cap is approx. 3 million than bread.

what the puck phuck? who do/did the rangers have working for them that enable this to happen?

maybe we should find out who that person is that's the salary cap handler working for the pens and double the salary to work for us. unless of course there's a salary cap of some sort maybe i don't know about for hiring such workers.
 
Kane left the Hawks game after the 2nd period last night. He suffered a knee injury in the Hawks previous game against San Jose. He tried to play with the injury last night. These old guys are getting hurt. ROR. Tarasenko. Kane. The Hawks are off today.
Tarasenko hurt his hand when it was struck by a shot he blocked. That injury happens to an 18 year old exactly the same.
 
If they’re going for a high end winger, Tarasenko is my choice.

Slap him on the line with Panarin and let him take Trocheck’s spot on the PP
 
We need to stop talking about the Buch trade. It wasn’t a trade for grit. It was a trade for cap space and lineup flexibility. We had at the time what was perceived to be overflowing prospect depth at that position and lacked certain elements lower down the lineup.

The trade was poorly executed. Bottom line.

That said, Blais was never supposed to come in and produce at anywhere near Buch level. Kakko or Kravtsov were supposed to do that with their new found opportunity.
no we don't. why? it's a reminder to not the same mistake(s). keep a guy and develop him for 5 seasons and then do some oakland a's shit? actually it's worse than the a's as they actually get back meaningful impactful hauls, not sammy phucking blais!!!

and frankly it was kinda a spit on buch's face. you were wonderful at under a million a season but when it came time for a well deserved payday sorry but we got to send you somewhere else.
 
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Vesey’s deal is mutually beneficial. He’s comfortable here, wants to be here. I think he feels really fortunate to have this second run with us, it’s a safe decision. Everyone wins.

PS - I couldn’t stand Vesey in his first stint with us. Beyond his decent play, I like this version far more, just a vibe. I think he’s very appreciative to be here, and it shows.
 
no we don't. why? it's a reminder to not the same mistake(s). keep a guy and develop him for 5 seasons and then do some oakland a's shit? actually it's worse than the a's as they actually get back meaningful impactful hauls, not sammy phucking blais!!!

and frankly it was kinda a spit on buch's face. you were wonderful at under a million a season but when it came time for a well deserved payday sorry but we got to send you somewhere else.
It's obvious you have an emotional stake in this. However bad the trade was, it was NOT Blais for Buch, and Blais was never meant to have the sort of role Buch had nor be his replacement. It was Buch for cap space, Blais and a 2nd. If you cant let go of a trade from two off seasons ago, you should at least stop misframing it.
 
no we don't. why? it's a reminder to not the same mistake(s). keep a guy and develop him for 5 seasons and then do some oakland a's shit? actually it's worse than the a's as they actually get back meaningful impactful hauls, not sammy phucking blais!!!

and frankly it was kinda a spit on buch's face. you were wonderful at under a million a season but when it came time for a well deserved payday sorry but we got to send you somewhere else.
The return was bad. Everyone agrees. Everyone knew it at the time.

The trade wasn’t Buch for Blais. The trade was for cap space and room for the high end prospects we fell into.

These trades get made all the time in a cap league. It sucks that that’s the reality now.
 
Vesey’s deal is mutually beneficial. He’s comfortable here, wants to be here. I think he feels really fortunate to have this second run with us, it’s a safe decision. Everyone wins.

PS - I couldn’t stand Vesey in his first stint with us. Beyond his decent play, I like this version far more, just a vibe. I think he’s very appreciative to be here, and it shows.
Yea, I really respect his ability to come to terms with his limitations and just go full bore into becoming a top defensive player. It’s so, so much more common for guys like that to just force trying to become scorers and end up lighting up the AHL or KHL rather than adjusting their game to contribute at this level
 
Buch is gone.deal with it and move on.we get it,it was a lousy trade.time to let it go

Dont you understand we couldve gotten a 1st (which wouldve been traded for Copp anyway) and Rasmus Kupari (6 points in 25 games) instead!?

In all seriousness, Buch is long gone and Blais needs to be next. I enjoy when hes able to get close enough to hit a guy but theres no way he should be taking a regular shift down the stretch and in the playoffs. 1.5 mil better spent elsewhere.
 
I'm all in on Jakob Chychrun.

Did you see how KAM affects the game with his mobility? That's a big weakness on this team. We lack mobile defensemen.

Fox is not going anywhere and will have his # retired.
Trouba has been terrible and 'skates like he has 11lbs of shit in his pants'
Lindgren is good at what he does but is overslotted and terrible offensively.
Schneider is a budding player but is not there yet.

Adding a Chyhcrun makes everything fall into place and adds a lot of dynamic ability from the back end, which we really lack...

Chychrun Fox
KAM Trouba
Lindgren Schneider

I would have swapped Trouba and Schneider by now but Coaches Decisions
 
Dont you understand we couldve gotten a 1st (which wouldve been traded for Copp anyway) and Rasmus Kupari (6 points in 25 games) instead!?

In all seriousness, Buch is long gone and Blais needs to be next. I enjoy when hes able to get close enough to hit a guy but theres no way he should be taking a regular shift down the stretch and in the playoffs. 1.5 mil better spent elsewhere.
I honestly think NYR NEED the sort of player they envisioned Blais to be. If they think he can get past the knee injury by next year and become that, they will try to keep him. He's (I believe) UFA though so its not even all up to this team.
 
If Buch was still here that could relegate the ineffective players like Lafreniere and Kravtsov to the 4th line which is a win in itself.
 
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