Speculation: Roster Building Thread I (2019/2020) - A Day in the Life

[UAGoalieGuy]

Signing Priskie as a UFA on August 15 would now be a very shrewd move. Do - however - not think it is in the cards

Would think they would go hard after him. The opportunity is there to battle for a roster spot out of camp.

 

[Ola]

It was a mistake not hanging on to Stralman but they could have. Sather followed that mistake by signing Dan Boyle who was washed up and cranky.

The huge mistake was not locking up Stralsy longterm before he got to UFA. He had like 6 kids and on his last RFA deal he said that all that mattered was term, we didn’t stretch longer than two years.

Now many are saying that we didn’t do our DD on these guys. Maybe the problem is that we sign so many players to important contracts when we have zero leverage? Of course a contract won’t be good if you sign it when you have zero leverage. What does people expect? It’s. Business. Try negotiations a deal when you don’t have leverage. Negotiations are all about leverage, it’s not some mental game. The players are represented by pros.

 

[Ghost of jas]

So, unless something drastically changes, we’re looking at a lineup that looks like the following:

Panarin/Zibanejad/Kakko
Kreider/Chytil/Kravtsov or Buchnevich
Lemieux/Howden/Buchnevich or Kravtsov
Namestnikov/Strome or Andersson/Fast

Skjei/Trouba
Staal/Fox
Hajek or Rykov/DeAngelo

Gonna be honest...I’ve been as cautious as anyone, but that team can be a playoff team if things go right. To me, Chytil, DeAngelo and Hajek could be the determining factors for the success of this team next year.

 

[Ola]

Ahh yes, teams would've wanted him after he missed half the season with a big knee injury

The injury wasn’t that bad. What do I know, I am just guessing, but I think he would have been a lot easier to deal then than now. He had good stats at the start of the season and then needed repairs on his knee.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

The injury wasn’t that bad. What do I know, I am just guessing, but I think he would have been a lot easier to deal then than now. He had good stats at the start of the season and then needed repairs on his knee.

What should've happened (hindsight 20/20 and all) is they should've spent more time trying to trade Kreider last season or before/at the draft. Shattenkirk would've been much easier to move next summer than any point of his time here so far just from the fact that he'd have one season left on his deal and only have $2m in salary

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

The injury wasn’t that bad. What do I know, I am just guessing, but I think he would have been a lot easier to deal then than now. He had good stats at the start of the season and then needed repairs on his knee.

Torn meniscus which almost certainly got worse because he played on it.

Should have operated right away. It’s not like they were in the playoffs or anything

 

[charliemurphy]

So, unless something drastically changes, we’re looking at a lineup that looks like the following:

Panarin/Zibanejad/Kakko
Kreider/Chytil/Kravtsov or Buchnevich
Lemieux/Howden/Buchnevich or Kravtsov
Namestnikov/Strome or Andersson/Fast

Skjei/Trouba
Staal/Fox
Hajek or Rykov/DeAngelo

Gonna be honest...I’ve been as cautious as anyone, but that team can be a playoff team if things go right. To me, Chytil, DeAngelo and Hajek could be the determining factors for the success of this team next year.

Not if those players get moved by the deadline.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

So, unless something drastically changes, we’re looking at a lineup that looks like the following:

Panarin/Zibanejad/Kakko
Kreider/Chytil/Kravtsov or Buchnevich
Lemieux/Howden/Buchnevich or Kravtsov
Namestnikov/Strome or Andersson/Fast

Skjei/Trouba
Staal/Fox
Hajek or Rykov/DeAngelo

Gonna be honest...I’ve been as cautious as anyone, but that team can be a playoff team if things go right. To me, Chytil, DeAngelo and Hajek could be the determining factors for the success of this team next year.

Either way, it'll be fun as shit to watch!

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Not if those players get moved by the deadline.

Kreider is really the only one of significance.

No offense to Fast

 

[Ghost of jas]

Not if those players get moved by the deadline.

Maybe in the case of Kreider, but, I disagree regarding the other three.

 

[kovazub94]

The huge mistake was not locking up Stralsy longterm before he got to UFA. He had like 6 kids and on his last RFA deal he said that all that mattered was term, we didn’t stretch longer than two years.

Now many are saying that we didn’t do our DD on these guys. Maybe the problem is that we sign so many players to important contracts when we have zero leverage? Of course a contract won’t be good if you sign it when you have zero leverage. What does people expect? It’s. Business. Try negotiations a deal when you don’t have leverage. Negotiations are all about leverage, it’s not some mental game. The players are represented by pros.

As someone noted in the last few pages, the underlying problem to all these bad decisions was empty prospect pool especially at RD. The team was forced to resign Girardi and Staal and then replace Stralman with Boyle.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Either way, it'll be fun as **** to watch!

Exactly. I’m hearing a lot of positive feedback about the perception of the Rangers. If this is the year Chytil not only takes a big jump in his development, but proves to be a legitimate top six center (which I still have my doubts) and Hajek/DeAngelo can prove to be a legitimate 2nd D pairing, even I will admit that this team can chase a playoff spot.

 

[kovazub94]

So, unless something drastically changes, we’re looking at a lineup that looks like the following:

Panarin/Zibanejad/Kakko
Kreider/Chytil/Kravtsov or Buchnevich
Lemieux/Howden/Buchnevich or Kravtsov
Namestnikov/Strome or Andersson/Fast

Skjei/Trouba
Staal/Fox
Hajek or Rykov/DeAngelo

Gonna be honest...I’ve been as cautious as anyone, but that team can be a playoff team if things go right. To me, Chytil, DeAngelo and Hajek could be the determining factors for the success of this team next year.

Two things that will determine how successful is the team next season:

1. How all new players transition and integrate together, and

2. How big is the progress of all the second year players

 

[kovazub94]

What should've happened (hindsight 20/20 and all) is they should've spent more time trying to trade Kreider last season or before/at the draft. Shattenkirk would've been much easier to move next summer than any point of his time here so far just from the fact that he'd have one season left on his deal and only have $2m in salary

Hindsight for sure. If the Rangers don’t hit the lottery and miss out on Panarin it would practically guaranteed that Kreider would’ve been extended for better or worse.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Hindsight for sure. If the Rangers don’t hit the lottery and miss out on Panarin it would practically guaranteed that Kreider would’ve been extended for better or worse.

Eh, I still doubt that. If anything, without hitting the lottery and signing Panarin, they probably would’ve stayed on the same path another season

 

[charliemurphy]

Maybe in the case of Kreider, but, I disagree regarding the other three.

Perhaps but if any of them have the best chances of being here after the deadline its Fast. Your initial post is putting a lot of pressure on the defense as a whole in being a playoff contender. I still don't quite understand the wanting or needing by some to put Panarin and Zib on the same line but anyhow... Gorton will trade Kreider by the deadline and perhaps Namestnikov as well which hopefully lands us in a good spot for the next draft. Lets just hope those players stay healthy and produce before they exit.

 

[DanielBrassard]

So, unless something drastically changes, we’re looking at a lineup that looks like the following:

Panarin/Zibanejad/Kakko
Kreider/Chytil/Kravtsov or Buchnevich
Lemieux/Howden/Buchnevich or Kravtsov
Namestnikov/Strome or Andersson/Fast

Skjei/Trouba
Staal/Fox
Hajek or Rykov/DeAngelo

Gonna be honest...I’ve been as cautious as anyone, but that team can be a playoff team if things go right. To me, Chytil, DeAngelo and Hajek could be the determining factors for the success of this team next year.

Why is Fox being counted on to be on the 2nd pairing over ADA? He needs to show he's actually ready for the NHL. The left side of the Rangers defense is still very pedestrian, probably one of the worst in the league at the moment. Forward group looks nice, I would like to somehow move Namestnikov and sign Pominville who is still a very good 5v5 player.

Edit:
This isn't really aimed at you Jas, just seeing your lineup reminded me that a number of the writers have been penciling Fox in on the 2nd pair and it's a bit confusing.

 

[Trxjw]

I still think Kreider will get moved before the season starts. They've been shopping him for months and have been very wishy washy about his future here. They could still use some extra cap flexibility to operate the team and make sure they can get the ADA and Lemieux deals done, and I think having that cap flexibility from the Shattenkirk buyout will give them more chips at the negotiating table with whomever may be in the mix for Kreider. Perhaps now they can turn the tables and say, "Sure, we'll take your $2.5M bottom pairing defensemen with a year left if you give us that top prospect we've been asking for since June."

I don't think the Rangers are penciling in Fox on that 3rd pairing and they're going to want some insurance that isn't Smith playing his off side. That might make more sense in a guy making $2M for one more year than trying to sign one of the FA's out there.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Why is Fox being counted on to be on the 2nd pairing over ADA? He needs to show he's actually ready for the NHL. The left side of the Rangers defense is still very pedestrian, probably one of the worst in the league at the moment. Forward group looks nice, I would like to somehow move Namestnikov and sign Pominville who is still a very good 5v5 player.

Edit:
This isn't really aimed at you Jas, just seeing your lineup reminded me that a number of the writers have been penciling Fox in on the 2nd pair and it's a bit confusing.

It’s more that I think Fox gets paired with Staal. You’ll see in a later post that it’s my hope that a pairing of Hajek/DeAngelo solidifies itself as a capable 2nd pairing. The less exposed Staal is, the better the fate of this team next year.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Perhaps but if any of them have the best chances of being here after the deadline its Fast. Your initial post is putting a lot of pressure on the defense as a whole in being a playoff contender. I still don't quite understand the wanting or needing by some to put Panarin and Zib on the same line but anyhow... Gorton will trade Kreider by the deadline and perhaps Namestnikov as well which hopefully lands us in a good spot for the next draft. Lets just hope those players stay healthy and produce before they exit.

The day Panarin was signed, Quinn said he was putting Panarin with Zibanejad.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I still think Kreider will get moved before the season starts. They've been shopping him for months and have been very wishy washy about his future here. They could still use some extra cap flexibility to operate the team and make sure they can get the ADA and Lemieux deals done, and I think having that cap flexibility from the Shattenkirk buyout will give them more chips at the negotiating table with whomever may be in the mix for Kreider. Perhaps now they can turn the tables and say, "Sure, we'll take your $2.5M bottom pairing defensemen with a year left if you give us that top prospect we've been asking for since June."

I don't think the Rangers are penciling in Fox on that 3rd pairing and they're going to want some insurance that isn't Smith playing his off side. That might make more sense in a guy making $2M for one more year than trying to sign one of the FA's out there.

Until a Kreider trade gets done, he’s in the lineup. I’m not saying the Rangers aren’t going to trade him before the start of the season, but I don’t think Gorton is trading him just to trade him.

As for Fox, he may not be penciled in for the 3RD spot, but he’s a strong candidate.

 

[offdacrossbar]

So, unless something drastically changes, we’re looking at a lineup that looks like the following:

Panarin/Zibanejad/Kakko
Kreider/Chytil/Kravtsov or Buchnevich
Lemieux/Howden/Buchnevich or Kravtsov
Namestnikov/Strome or Andersson/Fast

Skjei/Trouba
Staal/Fox
Hajek or Rykov/DeAngelo

Gonna be honest...I’ve been as cautious as anyone, but that team can be a playoff team if things go right. To me, Chytil, DeAngelo and Hajek could be the determining factors for the success of this team next year.

ADA is not the 3rd

although, playing with marc staal will be a tough assignment for the kid.

 

[kovazub94]

Eh, I still doubt that. If anything, without hitting the lottery and signing Panarin, they probably would’ve stayed on the same path another season

No doubt in my mind. Signing Panarin indicates that it wasn’t an age thing, and without Panarin and Kakko, Kreider would’ve been a need as a top 6 forward and there would be a cap space to sign him in that hypothetical.

 

[Ghost of jas]

ADA is not the 3rd

although, playing with marc staal will be a tough assignment for the kid.

This was already addressed.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

No doubt in my mind. Signing Panarin indicates that it wasn’t an age thing, and without Panarin and Kakko, Kreider would’ve been a need as a top 6 forward and there would be a cap space to sign him in that hypothetical.

Well Panarin is younger and significantly better and doesn’t have any sort of injury history that Kreider does, so I’m going to have to disagree with that premise all together