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Chief Ranger said:
Especially with the injury he sustained a few months ago. I love Jumbo, but him being 38 coming off a major injury that he played through during the playoffs isn't enticing at all for me.
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The injury is the main reason. I wouldn't be thrilled with him either way, but that puts it over the edge.
 
Hanzal is not signing a 2 year deal.

Mac is definitely a franchise player. The only issue is he should not be manning a powerplay but that is on the coaching staff and the front office although a small blame is placed on Mac for not developing his shot or that part of his game.

But aside from that Mac brings everything else to the table. And like someone else said, i would like to see him with even a semi-competent defenseman that can also skate.
 
If the Rangers are looking at moving Miller back to center, then it's fair to assume that not one of Thornton, Hanzal or Bonino will be a target this off-season.
 
theres a limit to how much retooling on the fly we can do before we degrade our ability to compete.

moving 27 sends the wrong message.

his game shows no signs of wear.

he's the capt of this team.

he's our best dman and continues to be for the foreseeable future.

moving 27 should not happen.

now that rick nash feller...... :nod:
 
offdacrossbar said:
theres a limit to how much retooling on the fly we can do before we degrade our ability to compete.

moving 27 sends the wrong message.

his game shows no signs of wear.

he's the capt of this team.

he's our best dman and continues to be for the foreseeable future.

moving 27 should not happen.

now that rick nash feller...... :nod:
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Nash is more than reasonable to consider moving. At worst, he's still a quality, two-way hockey player that can give you a productive season and then his 7M+ contract comes off the books going into next offseason.
 
Chief Ranger said:
Especially with the injury he sustained a few months ago. I love Jumbo, but him being 38 coming off a major injury that he played through during the playoffs isn't enticing at all for me.
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Just bringing in his veteranship would be a positive. With Hank in net we need to be contending for cup NOW. Signing him on a short term deal would be much smarter than throwing long term contracts at guys like Bonino or Hanzal. If we aren't competing for a cup now we might as well trade guys like Hank, McDonagh, Zucc, Kreider
 
I don't understand supporting dealing Stepan for pure futures and unwilling to budge on older players.

Everyone should be on the table. Their ability to compete in the next 2-4 years is seriously impaired without Step. The window is shut.

McDonagh will get what, $8-9M in 2 years?
Nash will be gone. Zucc will be declining and a $6M player.

Why hold these players?
 
BleedinBLUEsince92 said:
Just bringing in his veteranship would be a positive. With Hank in net we need to be contending for cup NOW. Signing him on a short term deal would be much smarter than throwing long term contracts at guys like Bonino or Hanzal. If we aren't competing for a cup now we might as well trade guys like Hank, McDonagh, Zucc, Kreider
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The Rangers are unlikely to compete for the Cup today, but they're still aiming to make the playoffs.
 
HatTrick Swayze said:
I don't understand supporting dealing Stepan for pure futures and unwilling to budge on older players.

Everyone should be on the table. Their ability to compete in the next 2-4 years is seriously impaired without Step. The window is shut.

McDonagh will get what, $8-9M in 2 years?
Nash will be gone. Zucc will be declining and a $6M player.

Why hold these players?
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Those are all assumptions.

Again, we lost Stepan, a center who produces 50-60 points per year. Thornton has eclipsed that every year consistently in the 75-85 point range with the exception of last year. You replace Stepan with Thornton and you still have a legitimate offensive group.

You replace Girardi/Klein/Holden with Shattenkirk/Smith/DeAngelo and you have a much better defense and offense overall. A much better powerplay as well with defensemen who can move and shoot the puck.

Had they had those factors they would have absolutely beat Ottawa and wouldve battles Pitt.
 
Chief Ranger said:
I'm still not comfortable with the thought of Hayes playing top 6 minutes. Especially with how he looked in the second half of last season.
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I agree, but I think it is what it is. Do not think Rangers have assets to bring in legitimate young top 6 center via trade and there is no one in free agency (except Thornton but I would not sign him). And I think at some point Rangers have to find out what they have in Hayes.
 
PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS ORGANISATION 2017-2018 (38)
NEW YORK RANGERS SQUAD (18)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr|Pos |Player| Caphit |Contract Status|Team 2016 |Drafted/Acquired |Age 2017
1| F | J.T. Miller |$2.750.000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #15 NYR (2011) |24
2| F | Kevin Hayes |$2,600,000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #24 Chicago (2010)- signed w/NYR as UFA |25
3| D | Brady Skjei (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #28 NYR (2012) |23
4| F | Jimmy Vesey (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R3 #66 Nashville (2012)- signed w/NYR as UFA |24
5| F | Matt Puempel |$725.000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #24 Ottawa (2011) - waiver claim 2016 |24
6| F | Rick Nash (NMC) |$7,800,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #1 overall Columbus Blue Jackets (2002) - acquired through trade|33
7| D | Kevin Klein |$2,900,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #37 Nashville Predators (2003) - acquired through trade|33
8| D | Nick Holden |$1,650,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted - acquired through trade |30
9| F | Michael Grabner |$1,600,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #14 Vancover Canucks (2006) - signed w/NYR as UFA |30
11| D | Ryan McDonagh |$4,700,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #12 Montreal (2007) - acquired unsigned through trade|28
12| F | Mats Zuccarello (NTC) |$4,500,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |30
13| F | Pavel Buchnevich (ELC)|$925,000* |RFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R3 #75 NYR (2013) |22
14| D | Alexei Bereglazov (ELC)|$925,000* |RFA 2019 |Metallurg Magnitogorsk/KHL|Undrafted (started w NYR) |23
15| D | Anthony DeAngelo (ELC)|$863,333* |RFA 2019 |Arizona Coyotes/NHL |R1 #19 Tampa Bay (2014) |22
16| F | Chris Kreider |$4,625,000 |UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #19 NYR (2009) |26
17| G | Henrik Lundqvist (NMC)|$8,500,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R7 #208 NYR (2000) |35
18| D | Marc Staal (NMC => NTC)|$5,750,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #12 NYR (2005) |30[/table]

TOTALS
SALARY CAP: $75,000,000
BUYOUTS (Dan Girardi): $2,611,111
SALARY HIT: $52,663,333
SALARY HIT WITH BUYOUT:$55.274.444
CAP SPACE: $19,725,556
9 FWD - 7 D - 1 G (4 more fwds)
AVERAGE AGE ~ 25.7 years

CONTRACTED 2017/2018 BUT LIKELY ASSIGNED TO AHL/ECHL/ELSEWHERE (20)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos |Player| Caphit |Contract Status |Team 2016 |Drafted |Age 2017
19|F |Adam Tambellini (ELC) |$803.333* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #65 NYR (2013) |23
20|F |Adam Chapie (ELC) |$800.000* |RFA 2018 |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |26
21|F |Cristoval Nieves(ELC) |$755.000* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #59 NYR (2012) |23
22|F |Steven Fogarty (ELC) |$750.000* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #72 NYR (2011) |24
23|F |Malte Strömwall (ELC) |$742.500* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R7 #198 Calgary (started w NYR) |24
24|D |Ryan Graves (ELC) |$656,667* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R4 #110 NYR (2013) |22
25|D |John Gilmour (ELC) |$633.333* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R7 #198 Calgary (2012) - signed w/NYR as UFA|24
26|D |Steve Kampfer |$650,000 |UFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R4 #93 (2007) Anaheim - acquired through trade |29
27|F |Vinni Lettieri (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2019 |Univ. of Minnesota/NCAA |Undrafted (started w NYR) |22
28|D |Neil Pionk (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2019 |Univ. of Minnesota-Duluth/NCAA |Undrafted (started w NYR) |22
29|G |Chris Nell (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2019 |Bowling Green/NCAA |Undrafted (started w NYR) |23
30|F |Robin Kovacs (ELC) |$803.333* |RFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #62 NYR (2015) |21
31|G |Brandon Halverson (ELC)|$803.333* |RFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #59 NYR (2014) |21
32|D |Vince Pedrie (ELC) |$767,500* |RFA 2019 |Penn State Univ./NCAA |Undrafted (started w NYR) |22
33|F |Ryan Gropp (ELC-S) |$839.166* |RFA 2020 |Seattle Thunderbirds/WHL |R2 #41 NYR (2015) |21
34|D |Sean Day (ELC-S) |$775,833* |RFA 2020 |Windsor Spitfires/OHL |R3 #81 NYR (2016) |19
35|F |Dawson Leedahl (ELC)|$749,167* |RFA 2020 |Regina Pats/WHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |21
36|F |Timothy Gettinger (ELC-S)|$736,667* |RFA 2020 |Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds/OHL|R5 #141 NYR (2016) |19
37|F |Gabriel Fontaine (ELC)|$736,667* |RFA 2020 |Rouyn-Noranda Huskies/QMJHL |R6 #171 NYR (2016) |20
38|D |Sergey Zborovskiy (ELC)|$734,166* |RFA 2020 |Regina Pats/WHL |R3 #79 NYR (2015) |20
[/table]

* - has additional bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract
@ - signed to an AHL deal with Hartford Wolfpack

UFAs (Unrestricted free agents) - 6
[table="head;width=3800]Nr|Position |Player| Cap hit 2017| Team 2017 |Age 2017 | Signed 2017=>|Caphit 2017 =>
1| D | Brendan Smith |$2,750,000 |New York Rangers/NHL |28||
2| F | Tanner Glass |$1,450,000 |New York Rangers/NHL |33||
3| D | Chris Summers |$600.000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |29||
4|D | Tommy Hughes |$600,000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |25||
5|F | Marek Hrivik |$600,000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |26|€urope?|
6|F | Chris Brown |$575,000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |25||[/table]

RFAs (Restricted free agents) - 11
[table="head;width=3800]Nr|Position |Player| Cap hit 2017| Team 2017 |Age 2017 | Signed 2017=>|Caphit 2017 =>
1| F | Mika Zibanejad |$2,625,000 |New York Rangers/NHL |24||
2| F | Brandon Pirri |$1,100,000 |New York Rangers/NHL |26|Not qualified|
3| F | Jesper Fast(h) |$950.000 |New York Rangers/NHL |26||
4| D | Troy Donnay |$716,667 |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |23|Not qualified?|
5| G | MacKenzie Skapski |$661,667 |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |23|Not qualified|
6| F | Taylor Beck |$650.000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |26|Not qualified?|
7| G | Magnus Hellberg |$625,000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |26|Russia|
8| D | Adam Clendening |$600.000 |New York Rangers/NHL |25|Not qualified|
9| F | Niklas Jensen |$600,000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |24|Qualified - Russia?|
10| D | Michael Paliotta |$600.000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |24||
11| F | Daniel Catenacci |$575,000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |23||[/table]

PLAYERS STILL UNSIGNED BUT WITH RIGHTS RETAINED BY NYR (14)
[table="head;width=3800]Nr|Position |Player| Team 2016| Height |Weight| Nationality |Shoots|DOB|Drafted
1|G |Igor Shestyorkin |St. Petersburg SKA (KHL) |6' 1"| 187 | Russia |L|December 30, 1995 |R4 #118 NYR (2014)
2|D |Tyler Nanne |Minnesota Golden Gophers/NCAA |5' 10" | 183 | USA |R|March 17, 1996 |R5 #142 NYR (2014)
3|F |Daniel Bernhardt |VIK Västerås HK/Allsvenskan |6' 3" | 191 | Sweden |L|April 11, 1996 |R4 #119 NYR (2015)
4|G |Adam Huska |UConn Huskies/NCAA |6' 3" | 191 | Slovakia |L|May 12, 1997 |R7 #184 NYR (2015)
5|D |Tarmo Reunanen |TUTO Hockey/Mestis |6' 0" | 180 | Finland |L|March 1, 1998 |R4 #98 NYR (2016)
6|G |Tyler Wall |UMass Lowell River Hawks/NCAA |6' 2" | 190 | Canada |R|January 14, 1998 |R6 #174 NYR (2016)
7|F |Ty Ronning |Vancouver Giants/WHL |5' 9" | 165 | Canada |R|October 20, 1997 |R7 #201 NYR (2016)
8|F |Lias Andersson |HV71/SHL |5' 11" | 201 | Sweden |L|October 13, 1998 |R1 #7 NYR (2017)
9|F |Filip Chytil |PSG Zlín/Czech Extraliga |6' 1" | 181 | Czech Republic|L|September 5, 1999 |R1 #21 NYR (2017)
10|D |Brandon Crawley |London Knights/OHL |6' 2" | 203 | USA |L|February 2, 1997 |R4 #123 NYR (2017)
11|D |Calle Själin |Östersunds IK/Div.1 Sweden |6' 1" | 176 | Sweden |L|September 2, 1999 |R5 #145 NYR (2017)
12|F |Dominik Lakatos |Bili Tygri Liberec/Czech Extraliga|5' 11"| 179 |Czech Republic |L|April 8, 1997 |R6 #157 NYR (2017)
13|F |Morgan Barron |St. Andrew's College/CAHS |6' 2" | 201 | Canada |R|December 02, 1998 |R6 #174 NYR (2017)
14|F |Patrik Virta |TPS/Liiga Finland |5' 10" | 181 | Finland |R|March 6, 1996 |R7 #207 NYR (2017)
(15)|F |Carl Klingberg |Free agent - rights retained |6' 3" | 205 | Sweden |R|January 28, 1991 |R2 #34 Atlanta (2009)[/table]

2018 DRAFT PICKS (6)
  • 1st round NYR
  • 2nd round NYR
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 4th round NYR
  • 5th round NYR
  • 6th round NYR

  • We gained a 2nd round pick from Ottawa when we traded Derrick Brassard
  • We then lost Ottawas 2nd round pick to Detroit in the trade for Brendan Smith
  • We then also lost our 7th round pick to Ottawa in the trade for Mika Zibanejad

2019 DRAFT PICKS (7)
  • 1st round NYR
  • 2nd round NYR
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 4th round NYR
  • 5th round NYR
  • 6th round NYR
  • 7th round NYR

2020 DRAFT PICKS (7)
  • 1st round NYR
  • 2nd round NYR
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 4th round NYR
  • 5th round NYR
  • 6th round NYR
  • 7th round NYR
 
silverfish said:
That Stepan trade was a grade A example of taking **** and making lemonade, let me tell ya.
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Yes because we know 2 days after Andersson was drafted and not 2-3 years whether or not he'll be the goods or a bust or not. Just like we all knew at time in 2008 Stepan was drafted 51st overall, he would end up better than Nikita Filatov who was drafted 6th overall and 15 other guys drafted in that years first round....right?

That's because drafting 18-19 year old kids are an exact science and so we can say definitivly right now Andersson won't have anything close to the career Stepan had.

Oh and we already know what JG is doing on July 1 with the extra 6.5 million he now has as his disposal plus the addition of DeAngelo...right?

I mean of all the things you are going to try and criticize Gorton about Fishie, you pick this?....LOL.

So this move here by JG trading Steps and Raanta for Andersson, DeAngelo and $6.5 million cash is your answer to who JG screwed up? And not even wait till July 1?....You can't make this **** up. :shakehead
 
RangerBoy said:
The Rangers want to play fast and faster. Joe Thornton???
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The Rangers can still play a fast game with Thornton in the mix. They have been able to do so with the legs of Stepan and Hayes up front. They were able to compete with a deteriorating Klein and Girardi in the back. 3 of those 4 are gone. DeAngelo will be faster and can jumpstart the transition game. So would Shatty. They can afford to take on Thornton who is a career 52.6% on the dot. He hasnt finished below 50% since 2002-2003. He could help this team a lot not just competitively but a guy like Hayes.
 
Ndurpressure said:
Looking at centers with high cap hits that teams might want to unload...

Jordan Staal - 6 mill (signed through 2023)
Henrik Sedin - 7 mill (pending ufa)
Ryan O'Reilly - 7.5 mill (signed through 2023)
Paul Stastny - 7 mill (pending ufa)

I'd take any of these. FOr the two pending ufas, maybe we trade staal at 25% retained (although vancouver would never bite on that)holden straight up?
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Only guy on that list I'd want would be ROR...love everything about his game and he'd be a great fit. And he's still young enough. Damn tho, adding his $7.5 is alot of cap space. I don't know but as tempted as I'd be to want ROR, Sabres would likely ask for a ton and not sure it would be worth it for us.

Would Henrik come here withought his brother? Doubtful.
 
HatTrick Swayze said:
I don't understand supporting dealing Stepan for pure futures and unwilling to budge on older players.

Everyone should be on the table. Their ability to compete in the next 2-4 years is seriously impaired without Step. The window is shut.

McDonagh will get what, $8-9M in 2 years?
Nash will be gone. Zucc will be declining and a $6M player.

Why hold these players?
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Because the addition of possibly Shattenkirk (Which I believe is the plan and always has been) plus deangelo and then guys like Vesey, Hayes and Zibby taking a step forward could make us a better team. We also probably need to add at least 1 maybe 2 centers via ufa or trade.

A few ifs in there but we still have a good group with guys who can grow.
 
RGY said:
The Rangers can still play a fast game with Thornton in the mix. They have been able to do so with the legs of Stepan and Hayes up front. They were able to compete with a deteriorating Klein and Girardi in the back. 3 of those 4 are gone. DeAngelo will be faster and can jumpstart the transition game. So would Shatty. They can afford to take on Thornton who is a career 52.6% on the dot. He hasnt finished below 50% since 2002-2003. He could help this team a lot not just competitively but a guy like Hayes.
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I think RB's point was that they moved Stepan so that they can get even quicker.

Replacing him with Thornton doesn't exactly help them there.
 
There are some teams desperate for center but I am not sure Hanzal will get much more than 2 years. He could see a fit here, contending team might be appealing to him after years spent in Arizona.
 
Lias Andersson is one of the most NHL ready prospects outside of Patrick and Hischier in the entire draft. He's one of the oldest and already plays a pro style game. If it were me, I wouldn't rush him along and let him play in an increased role in Sweden before coming over. The Rangers' front office and coaching staff needs to talk to Lias and tell him to not be afraid to take some risks offensively to develop those skills. If his offensive production takes the next step, he can be our Henrik Zetterberg . I also like the Alfredsson comparison a lot.

With all of that being said, it wouldn't surprise me if the Rangers scouts thought that he was NHL ready this coming season.
 
Geoff Gorden said:
I think RB's point was that they moved Stepan so that they can get even quicker.

Replacing him with Thornton doesn't exactly help them there.
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I understand that but Thornton is not going to hold this team back. They will be quicker just by getting rid of Klein and Girardi and adding quicker defensemen. We have seen how important quick defensemen with good vision and passing ability are in this game. Thornton helped the Sharks get to the finals just two years ago. I think he still holds a lot of value.
 
McD37 said:
There are some teams desperate for center but I am not sure Hanzal will get much more than 2 years. He could see a fit here, contending team might be appealing to him after years spent in Arizona.
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Then he won't have much interest in coming here.

Hanzal will get a decent contract. Hes also good to miss 20 games a season.
 
RGY said:
The Rangers can still play a fast game with Thornton in the mix. They have been able to do so with the legs of Stepan and Hayes up front. They were able to compete with a deteriorating Klein and Girardi in the back. 3 of those 4 are gone. DeAngelo will be faster and can jumpstart the transition game. So would Shatty. They can afford to take on Thornton who is a career 52.6% on the dot. He hasnt finished below 50% since 2002-2003. He could help this team a lot not just competitively but a guy like Hayes.
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Are you giving 38 year old Joe Thornton a 3 year contract? Stepan and Hayes are not 38 years old coming off major knee surgery.
 
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