Speculation: Roster Building Thread 2019-20: Part XXVI

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I think that Marty's comment about never being asked makes it a very valid comparison cause people constantly say 'if hank agrees to waive' 'if hank takes one for the team' etc but there is zero indication that he has ever been asked. and i'll be honest I think it is far more likely that he is never asked then he says no. they might be hoping that hank comes to them knowing the situation but I'm not sure I believe they will actually ask him.
 
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Trading Kreider doesn’t mean the team needs to use that pick acquired to draft an 18 year old. It’s a higher value piece they can use to target a specific piece the team feels they want here long term in the offseason.
It also doesnt mean you will find a valuable NHL player right now that lines up well to trade that late 1st for. Then what? Youre selling a big piece of the team now for futures player that may not make an appearance for 3-5 years. So you stay in rebuild mode.

I dont like the idea of moving Kreider. You saw a difference in the team tonight when there was no Kreider in the lineup.
 
Add another mark to the “Quinn calls out Buchnevich by name” tally

I love Buch but it seems to be increasingly clear he won’t be a long term piece on this team with Quinn here
 
I know all you will hate me for saying this but just get me Tom Wilson.
That is all..

Signing off now as to not read the replies :laugh:

I would love that type of player here. If Tom Wilson was a Ranger he'd be Brashear or Ryan Hollweg and not be good. Lmfao Rangers don't get players like that, unless they are old like Rupp Brashear etc
When was the last time we had a good skilled tough guy that can take a regular shift and not look like trash Colton Orr, Darren Langdon Joe Kocur Tie Domi
 
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Add another mark to the “Quinn calls out Buchnevich by name” tally

I love Buch but it seems to be increasingly clear he won’t be a long term piece on this team with Quinn here

I loathe 'Buch' and it seems to be increasingly clear he won't be a long term piece on any NHL team.
 
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If we could get a top forward prospect from the Blues for Kreider, I wouldn't ever care about the draft pick.

Trade Strome to a desperate team. His value will never be higher. Trade Fast and Skjei, too. We have to keep ADA.

Assuming you're logically realizing this rebuild is going to take a lot longer than people seem to expect, I guess your desire is for us to be in lottery contention for a solid 3 years or so? If that's your goal than yes, let's do all you just said.

Shame that we'll never bottom out like Detroit and that even doing so only grants us a 50% or so chance at getting a top 3 pick. Otherwise your plan is flawless. 3 First overalls would be amazing! Or would it? Not all teams succeed with two+ top picks. See: Devils. (and Oilers forever).

Otherwise I have no idea what your plan is. McKegg, Howden or Chytil as top center if/when Zibby goes down. One of those 3 as 2nd center for the whole season period. Perfect.

Kreider, Georgiev, Strome, Fast... not getting us a 2C. Skjei in a package maybe but doubtful. This is full on tank talk. Let's compete with DET. But hey, guess it's better than drafting 12th, that much is true.

It's funny because ADA will become our most valuable and worthy trade chip soon if he isn't already. And I'd love to keep him. Just facing the reality that to get that 2C we need so badly we need to trade from a position of strength and we're not getting a young solid center without dangling ADA. Trouba's going nowhere, Fox isn't flashy enough, and Lundkvist hasn't even played in the NHL yet.

Trading Skjei and then losing Staal and Smith (addition by subtraction, I know, I get it but you need to see this from an NHL coach perspective for a second) when we have no top LD prospects except, maybe, Miller who isn't NHL ready yet... well, let's just give up on defense period. Thinking Hajek, Lindgren and Rykov are just stepping in?

We need to trade people, yes, but we need the right returns. With the right returns it CAN free up other trades, but if we get lower value than we're expecting (which is almost certainly the case), then trading Strome and Skjei along with the others means tank tank city for a nice 3 years easily. So again, I assume that's the plan you prefer. I don't mind if we get lucky and build right, but we'll lose Breads best years, and some of Zibby's too.

Regardless, TDL and off-season will be very interesting for this team and how it can progress. I wouldn't wanna be in charge and I both do and don't look forward to seeing what happens before next season.
 
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I would love that type of player here. If Tom Wilson was a Ranger he'd be Brashear or Ryan Hollweg and not be good. Lmfao Rangers don't get players like that, unless they are old like Rupp Brashear etc
When was the last time we had a good skilled tough guy that can take a regular shift and not look like trash Colton Orr, Darren Langdon Joe Kocur Tie Domi
Probably the guy who broke Stepan's jaw in the playoffs with a dirty hit.
 
If we could get a top forward prospect from the Blues for Kreider, I wouldn't ever care about the draft pick.

Trade Strome to a desperate team. His value will never be higher. Trade Fast and Skjei, too. We have to keep ADA.

You know who would be the perfect guy to get from the Blues for Kreider? Robert Thomas would be the absolute perfect guy to snare from them. I don't think it's unreasonable either. And yes we get him, I could give a shit about the draft pick. I wonder if the Blues would do that tho as he's having a heck of a year for them on pace for around 45 points and he's doing it as a bottom 6 forward also.

Hmmmm...common Gorton, work your magic and get this done!...:nod:
 
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You know who would be the perfect guy to get from the Blues for Kreider? Robert Thomas would be the absolute perfect guy to snare from them. I don't think it's unreasonable either. And yes we get him, I could give a **** about the draft pick. I wonder if the Blues would do that tho as he's having a heck of a year for them on pace for around 45 points and he's doing it as a bottom 6 forward also.

Hmmmm...common Gorton, work your magic and get this done!...:nod:

There is absolutely no way that the Blues would trade Thomas for Kreider, even with an extension.
 
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