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Speculation: Roster Building Thread 2019-20: Part XXVI

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For me, even though @Irishguy42 thinks I somehow want Reaves, I’d prefer to diversify the Rangers top-9 rather than keep Buch long term. Just looking at the types of forwards projected to be here in a year or two I’d prefer a different style of play from someone making $5m per season.

Just as an aside as I know the attack will come, I’m not talking about someone with no offensive ability. What I’m talking about is someone who could play a more North/South style and get to the front of the net to create room for others and havoc for the other team.
 
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Off Sides said:
If the Rangers can not come close to replacing what Kreider will be when is 32-33-34 year old the rebuild has not been good.

There are likely several young NHLer, or even prospects who while they may not be in the Rangers system, are going to be as productive or more so over those years.

The whole question is if the Rangers can identify them and trade for them. If they can all is good. If they can not it really does not matter what they do as their scouting/foresight/management skills are not good enough for them to build anything near Cup worthy regardless if they keep Kreider or not. If it's too difficult for them to replace a unique yet still a ~55 point player, what are they really doing taking on a rebuild in the first place?
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Not sure about that. There's not many guys like Kreider in the league to begin with, so to hinge rebuild success on finding another Kreider doesn't seem fair.

Also, he may or may not regress by the time he is that age. He keeps himself in incredible shape.
 
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Avery16 said:
Callahan wanted to stay too...for 7x7.
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Callahan and Kreider...two different players, two different styles of game, two different physical conditions. Callahan was bound to break down and was really nothing more than a 3rd line player who got minutes on teams that lacked offensive talent or depth. Kreider, much different story. It was clear as day that Callahan’s body would not hold up due to how he played. The NHL game is only transitioning to favor Kreider’s style more and more with each passing day.

But the Rangers must either extend him or trade him
 
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bbny said:
Not sure about that. There's not many guys like Kreider in the league to begin with, so to hinge rebuild success on finding another Kreider doesn't seem fair.

Also, he may or may not regress by the time he is that age. He keeps himself in incredible shape.
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Bingo.
 
CasusBelli said:
Would have gladly done it if injuries hadn’t been a concern with Cally. And kept Girardi or Yandle over Staal. But that’s a separate discussion.
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he could have been the healthiest player in history and he would have never sniffed close to the value of that contract. He just wasn’t that good. Anyone remembering he as a 7x7 is drunk on nostalgia.
 
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If we traded Kreider.
If Boston is hot for him. (High probability of a resign too.)

Send Kreider and Skjei to Boston

I'd look to get DeBrusk & Krug + Studnika/Fredric/1st.

Boston may be looking for a LD with Chara close to retirement and Krug a UFA. Skjei is long term and reasonably priced. Boston's window is still now with their core.

DeBrusk is a good bet to fill our 2LW behind Panarin for a number of years and plays with the edge we like. Can rotate with Lemieux in the middle six depending on nightly matchups.

Krug, is closer to a 1LD than Skjei is and is still sub 30yo. We get to try him out and vise versa before his UFA kicks in. Less risk of failure if offered an extension, provided he gels and doesn't Smith us if we did. And, having him keeps us in the playoff hunt this season.

Studnika, Fredric, or 1st. GMs choice. Boston wants Kreider and Skjei...they gotta pay one young premium.
 
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RGY said:
Callahan and Kreider...two different players, two different styles of game, two different physical conditions. Callahan was bound to break down and was really nothing more than a 3rd line player who got minutes on teams that lacked offensive talent or depth. Kreider, much different story. It was clear as day that Callahan’s body would not hold up due to how he played. The NHL game is only transitioning to favor Kreider’s style more and more with each passing day.

But the Rangers must either extend him or trade him
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Offered only for the point that everyone says publicly that they want to stay and privately how much it’ll cost.
 
White Death 24 said:
If we traded Kreider.
If Boston is hot for him. (High probability of a resign too.)

I'd look to get DeBrusk & Krug + Studnika/Fredric/1st.

Boston may be looking for a LD with Chara close to retirement and Krug a UFA. Skjei is long term and reasonably priced. Boston's window is still now with their core.

DeBrusk is a good bet to fill our 2LW behind Panarin for a number of years and plays with the edge we like. Can rotate with Lemieux in the middle six depending on nightly matchups.

Krug, is closer to a 1LD than Skjei is and is still sub 30yo. We get to try him out and vise versa before his UFA kicks in. Less risk of failure if offered an extension, provided he gels and doesn't Smith us if we did. And, having him keeps us in the playoff hunt this season.

Studnika, Fredric, or 1st. GMs choice. Boston wants Kreider and Skjei...they gotta pay one young premium.
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No chance the Bruins would cough up that much. I'd be happy with Studnicka and a conditional 2nd that becomes a first if the Bruins make it to the finals. If the Rangers retain 50% add Fredric.
 
I guess my opinion on the whole kreider thing is this....I truly don’t know if he will be the same player in 4 or 5 years. I know he’s in great shape but if he can return a top prospect and a 2nd or a 1st and a good prospect maybe more then you have to do it
 
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bbny said:
Not sure about that. There's not many guys like Kreider in the league to begin with, so to hinge rebuild success on finding another Kreider doesn't seem fair.

Also, he may or may not regress by the time he is that age. He keeps himself in incredible shape.
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I am not hinging their rebuild success on them just replacing Kreider, I am hinging it on their ability to also replace Girardi, Staal, McD, Miller, Hayes, Zucc, Nash, Lundqvist.

Either they are going to do a good job of that are they are not. If not what was the point of them going this far into it?
 
UAGoalieGuy said:
No chance the Bruins would cough up that much. I'd be happy with Studnicka and a conditional 2nd that becomes a first if the Bruins make it to the finals. If the Rangers retain 50% add Fredric.
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Meant to put in Kreider plus Skjei for DeBrusk, Krug, plus one of Studnika/Fredric/1st
 
aufheben said:
Right but if that hasn’t happened by the trade deadline they need to trade him. That’s nice that he wants to stay but it’s not a sure thing.
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That’s fair. I just hope they will at least give one last effort to see if a deal could be worked out. If not then I understand trading him but I hope they at least try
 
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I would be happy to add a 2nd to Georgiev for Kapanen. I dont think i go more than that. Kapanen tops out as an average 2nd liner / excellent 3rd liner. Georgiev has signs he could handle being a #1. Toronto’s goaltending situation is not stable. Georgiev is the perfect formula for them. Young. Controlled. Very cheap cap hit. He can be their future #1.
 
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