Speculation: Roster Building Thread 2019-20 Part XXV

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Ehh. Like I said, Chevy was a bad GM who was cheap. Sakic is a good GM that is cheap. Which, as another poster pointed out earlier (I think it was @Tawnos ) means Sakic will likely be willing to spend when he feels his team is ready, not when ownership is starting to pressure him.
He can very well be good at some things and not good at other things. Until proven otherwise, I'm not going to assume that he is a good GM when it comes to launching a team from contender to favorite (which is one of the most difficult tasks to architect in sports).
 
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I feel like that would be the worst possible spot for Buchnevich to go for Rangers fans sake. He is instantly going to be a 70 point player (due to McDavid/Draisatl) and our fanbase will be on suicide watch if Puljujarvi doesn't pan out (which is a real possibility).

Exactly lol
 
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I would say the Rangers would feel a sense of relief if it looked like Lundqvist was okay riding off into the sunset after this season.

But I just don't see a scenario where they go with three goalies for all of next season. If for no other reason than I highly doubt Shesterkin would stick around through all of that.

If Lundqvist stays, I'd say it's 99 percent certain that a young goalie leaves. Whether that's Shesterkin back to Russia (doubtful) or Georgiev gets traded (probable) remains to be seen.

@Edge - Sorry if you've mentioned this before, but regarding the above, do you know if Shesh told the org he could go back to Russia if he's still in Hartford after a specific date? Do we expect him called back up before Friday?
 
@Edge - Sorry if you've mentioned this before, but regarding the above, do you know if Shesh told the org he could go back to Russia if he's still in Hartford after a specific date? Do we expect him called back up before Friday?

I don't think it's a concern at all for this year. Next year, probably not the same scenario.

Was told multiple times several months ago that the plan was to get Shesterkin reps in the NHL in the new year, with a few back and forth trips a possibility (as schedules dictate). As far as I know, nothing's changed on that front. The wildcard is Shesterkin playing so well they can't/won't send him down multiple times. But I think even in that scenario, there is a path to get through the rest of the schedule. Not an ideal path, but not a catastrophe either.
 
Which is a better tactic- devoting two pages of posts belittling a bad trade proposal, or ignoring it altogether and continuing with the relatively more realistic discussion
This is a discussion board. Without interaction it would be the equivalent of everyone just talking to themselves. Criticizing a bad proposal in the Roster Building Thread is about as about as fair and reasonable as it gets. Critique the post, not the poster is the golden rule and I don't see anyone that violated that.
 
So if someone (Detroit, Ottawa) offered Georgiev $4MM a year for two years, do you want to match that? You get a high second for your trouble. And if you do match, you can't move Georgiev for a year.

I think the Rangers can do a little better than that.

If the Rangers can do better than a high 2nd, he will be traded before any offer sheet can be signed, so it's a moot point.

There's also the possibility that the Rangers re-sign Georgiev prior to July 1st and then trade him (or keep him, if the offers aren't enough), or that Georgiev refuses to sign an offer sheet. It's far from a forgone conclusion. If Georgiev doesn't elect for arbitration for some reason, the Rangers will, so other teams will only have until July 5th to get him to sign.
 
Why are we not hearing more about things like this? I am all about the package deals. I've always said I'd rather give up more to get exactly what I want.
My sense is that Gorton also feels this way. He has targets and will overpay for them. Just my opinion.
 
I know it's not technically true, but this deadline feels like it has even more going on for NYR than the last two.

I suppose part of it is that there are a lot more uncertainties. We knew we were dealing Nash, Holden, Grabner, Zucc, McQuaid, and Hayes. We aren't sure on a lot of these guys, especially ADA and Strome.
 
signing at the last minute doesn't mean that contract talks didn't start till the last minute

I'd also argue that the cap wasn't an issue then, and the Rangers were (for better or worse) still determined to bulldog their way into the playoffs and one last cup run.
 
I know it's not technically true, but this deadline feels like it has even more going on for NYR than the last two.

I suppose part of it is that there are a lot more uncertainties. We knew we were dealing Nash, Holden, Grabner, Zucc, McQuaid, and Hayes. We aren't sure on a lot of these guys, especially ADA and Strome.

I think this deadline has the opportunity for an unexpected blockbuster, where as the others were largely expected.
 
I know it's not technically true, but this deadline feels like it has even more going on for NYR than the last two.

I suppose part of it is that there are a lot more uncertainties. We knew we were dealing Nash, Holden, Grabner, Zucc, McQuaid, and Hayes. We aren't sure on a lot of these guys, especially ADA and Strome.

I also think there's more of an attachment to Kreider. He's a player still in his 20s, still in his prime, and someone that we could use. There was a reasonable amount of teeth-gnashing with Hayes though.
 
People on Twitter freaking out about the “rebuild” lasting like 5 more years today after Brooks article

Hilarious
 
I am sorry but the Rangers shouldn't be looking to appease Lundqvist or avoid hurt his feelings. It would be insane to move Georgiev for less than the Rangers want just to keep Lundqvist on the team when everyone knows the Rangers are better off with the two young goaltenders. The Rangers could potentially sign both of them for the immediate term for Lundqvist's $8.5M cap hit. Vasilevskiy has a $3.5M cap hit in the bridge deal he signed a few years ago. Lundqvist annoys the **** out of me when he says he wants to be part of this team when it's turned around and headed in the right direction. He will 40 by then. It is always about him and what he wants. Maybe the Rangers want to go in a different direction. Brooks writes Lundqvist doesn't want to waive his clause. He has earned that right with the NMC but the Rangers shouldn't be afraid to tell him it's the other way too. I get the feeling the Rangers don't want to piss him off. Elliotte Friedman has said on his podcast that he believes the Rangers would prefer to keep Georgiev. You have said the same thing. Other executives have told Elliotte that the Rangers should try to make it work and find a way to keep both young goaltenders because Lundqvist is under contract for just one more season. 6-7 months.

lol @ 6-7 months.
 
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