Toggle sidebar

Speculation: Roster Building Thread 2019-20: Part XXIX

  • Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates

If the lowest Kreider will accept is 7x7 (likely with some sort of NMC), do you...

  • Trade him

  • Sign him

  • Rent him for the playoffs and let him walk as a UFA

Results are only viewable after voting.
Status
Not open for further replies.
jas said:
This is basically what I was referring when I was talking about the ramifications of Kreider still being here after the trade deadline.
Click to expand...

It'd certainly be a pretty big tell. Obviously they aren't using him as an own-rental. Maybe it ends in a new contract for Kreider and a farewell tour for Hank.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tossed Medal
Trxjw said:
It'd certainly be a pretty big tell. Obviously they aren't using him as an own-rental. Maybe it ends in a new contract for Kreider and a farewell tour for Hank.
Click to expand...

It's something @Edge has been discussing for a while now. It may come down to Kreider's demands, and how far exactly the Rangers are willing to go.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Trxjw
jas said:
It's something @Edge has been discussing for a while now. It may come down to Kreider's demands, and how far exactly the Rangers are willing to go.
Click to expand...

Certainly makes me nervous. Hopefully the timeline we've heard regarding Gorton finally talking contract details with Kreiders is wrong and they've been in contact longer than the last couple weeks. Pretty big decision to leave up to the last minute, even if he's the only big fish rental that's in Gorton's pond.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jas
Trxjw said:
Certainly makes me nervous. Hopefully the timeline we've heard regarding Gorton finally talking contract details with Kreiders is wrong and they've been in contact longer than the last couple weeks. Pretty big decision to leave up to the last minute, even if he's the only big fish rental that's in Gorton's pond.
Click to expand...
Also could be a trade tactic, no one wants to meet our ask? We'll have no problem just re-signing him
 
Trxjw said:
Certainly makes me nervous. Hopefully the timeline we've heard regarding Gorton finally talking contract details with Kreiders is wrong and they've been in contact longer than the last couple weeks. Pretty big decision to leave up to the last minute, even if he's the only big fish rental that's in Gorton's pond.
Click to expand...

I’d venture that the broad terms were probably already established. Now it might be about seeing how concrete they are, and if there’s any way to get a little creative.
 
What type of question is this?

Yes, to Kreider 5-6years @ $7M. I'd be surprised if he got 7 years with the Rangers
 
Edge said:
I’d venture that the broad terms were probably already established. Now it might be about seeing how concrete they are, and if there’s any way to get a little creative.
Click to expand...

Gorton’s going need to be a little more creative.
 
I'd really love to know what we'd be prepared to offer Kreider if we didn't have 2 of Smith/Staal/Lundqvist under contract for another season
 
mike14 said:
I'd really love to know what we'd be prepared to offer Kreider if we didn't have 2 of Smith/Staal/Lundqvist under contract for another season
Click to expand...

I don’t think it’s any different than what’s already been speculated. Kreider’s market value is likely $7 million per for 7 years. I don’t think the Rangers want to go that high for that many years. If you’ve been following this thread today, the correlation between Kreider getting re-signed and Henke either being bought out or moved has been established. So, it’s very likely if Kreider is re-signed, Henke is out of here.
 
mike14 said:
I'd really love to know what we'd be prepared to offer Kreider if we didn't have 2 of Smith/Staal/Lundqvist under contract for another season
Click to expand...

It’s more than just the cap space they kill it’s the fact that having them has really hampered the teams ability to build a contender and will continue to do so next year.
 
  • Like
Reactions: broadwayblue
Stick to the game plan. We ain’t making the playoffs. Gorton isn’t giving CK a mega deal. He’s walking. His value is sky high. Get a 1st, a top prospect and a roster player (ala Lemieux)
Trade Fast.

no reason to move Georgiev, Buch, TDA, Strome or any other RFA and “trade bait” unless the offer is mind blowing.

We have the draft and the off-season to figure things out.

Who knows maybe the Rangers land a 1st, top prospect and an underachieving roster player to replace CK who might catch fire with Breadman.
 
  • Like
Reactions: kovazub94, broadwayblue and Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Elliman said:
Stick to the game plan. We ain’t making the playoffs. Gorton isn’t giving CK a mega deal. He’s walking. His value is sky high. Get a 1st, a top prospect and a roster player (ala Lemieux)
Trade Fast.

no reason to move Georgiev, Buch, TDA, Strome or any other RFA and “trade bait” unless the offer is mind blowing.

We have the draft and the off-season to figure things out.

Who knows maybe the Rangers land a 1st, top prospect and an underachieving roster player to replace CK who might catch fire with Breadman.
Click to expand...
Nah let’s keep winning. Nobody is giving up a first and a top prospect to for a rental. Plus the first is gonna be a very late first which isn’t exciting
 
Edge said:
So I am going to copy and paste this from something I wrote in a PM, but I think it applies most in this thread:

Personally, I'd love to be in the top 5 or 6 for this draft. But, at the same time, you can't force your way into that slot. It's not like we're icing a team with a bunch of vets with no future here in a desperate attempt to make the playoffs and save the jobs of the coach and GM.

We're icing a lot of young players, who are learning, growing and contributing, and that is and was always going to be the primary objective this year. So we can't stop that, nor should we.

Ultimately, I think this team finishes in the 8-12 range, for the draft, as I always have. But everything these young kids are experiencing is VITAL to them and this organization.

But if this team can give itself a chance to experience what the excitement of "hunting" for success feels like, and then still come away with Lundell at say, 10th overall, sign me up every single day of the week.
Click to expand...
That has become my mantra here - and in general. Forcing things, trying to manufacture an outcome, just doesn’t work. Let the chips fall where they may. C’est la vie is a terrific saying. Do the right thing, adjust, be constructive, and things tend to fall into place. When one door closes, another one opens.
Sorry to be so trite but I think it’s great advice from an old head.
 
  • Like
Reactions: wafflepadsave and Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Lindberg Cheese said:
Ok I figured out the deadline and off season. Bern eat your heart out.

Assumptions: sign Krieder approx 6.75 x 7, Strome at approx 5, ADA at approx 5, Lemmy at approx 2.25, buy out Staal

Deadline:
Smith at 50% and Lias to Boston for a 3rd and Hall:
Boston could use a Swiss Army knife like Smith, Thier C core is aging and Lias is more ready than Hall who has better upside. We shed Smith for 2020-1.

Skjei and Fast (50%) to STL for a 1st and Kostin (maybe we add a sweetener):
Unfortunate events (Jay B) have left STL needing LD help now for playoffs and with loads of term as most of their D start to roll off. Fast provides reliability up and down the lineup whose game translates well to playoffs. Kostin gives us another young F on an ELC.

Georgie to Chi now or in off season for Nylander:
Both CHI Gs are FAs. Hockey position trade.

2020-1: we weather the 12+ mil dead cap issue, get young F with upside, start finishing the D transition, keep Krieder as the heartbeat and captain. Leaves us with approx 2.5 in space in case Strome and ADA cost a bit more.

Krieder Zibs Buch
Pan Strome Kakko
Krav Chytil Kostin
Lemmy Howton Nylander
Kegger

maybe 1-2 guys start in Hartford, no matter we plug in Kegger and have decent AAAA players or we sign a good 4th line FA at 900k. Good competition up and down F spots.

ADA Trouba
Lindy Fox
Rykov Lundkvist
Hajek

Can ADA handle the shift? Miller and Keane on the horizon, good balance with pairings.

Czar / King
Click to expand...
Many good ideas here but the thing that kills it for me is seeing Lias in a proposal. They’re not moving him with his value in the trough. Sort of like when I see “Bracco” in a trade proposal. I kind of loudly exhale.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Ad

Ad

Top Bottom