Speculation: Roster Building/Rumor Thread XIX

[Hitch16]

Most fans (Rangers, and general hockey fans) agree with me on Drury's moves, it's not like I'm just being some contrarian. Everyone is laughing at us right now. I like physical players who can skate, Blais isn't one of them. Othmann is also regarded as one of the worst skaters in the draft. Skating is the most important skill in hockey and it's like our team is allergic to good skaters lol

I wish I was kidnapped by Buch

This is a good post but what I bolded I disagree - everyone should worry about their own team.

 

[bobbop]

Vegas twitter going crazy with rumors that Danault is 6.5X6

I thought the Rangers would be in on Danault at 6X6 (or hopefully a little less)

Not sure I think the Vegas thing is real. Roster construction doesn’t make sense.

 

[Alluckks]

Most fans (Rangers, and general hockey fans) agree with me on Drury's moves, it's not like I'm just being some contrarian. Everyone is laughing at us right now. I like physical players who can skate, Blais isn't one of them. Othmann is also regarded as one of the worst skaters in the draft. Skating is the most important skill in hockey and it's like our team is allergic to good skaters lol

I wish I was kidnapped by Buch

We drafted on skating for a while, prioritizing guys like Brady Skjei. Our team does not lack good skating at all.

Also, most general hockey fans hate the Rangers and take every chance to mock them anyway. General hockey fans mocked our team even when we made the cup finals. That stuff means less than nothing to me.

 

[Machinehead]

If I had to pick a player, I'd say he reminds me of Todd Harvey.
He can stir things up, skate a little bit, chip in the occasional goal and throw some timely hits but that's about it.

Man, that's a blast from the past.

Todd Harvey would have made for a decent compliment on a good team.

 

[Thirty One]

We do have backup level goalies in the pipeline anyway

We do?

 

[RGY]

Most fans (Rangers, and general hockey fans) agree with me on Drury's moves, it's not like I'm just being some contrarian. Everyone is laughing at us right now. I like physical players who can skate, Blais isn't one of them. Othmann is also regarded as one of the worst skaters in the draft. Skating is the most important skill in hockey and it's like our team is allergic to good skaters lol

I wish I was kidnapped by Buch

Omg dude enough. Take a break. “Most people are laughing at us” who cares?? Look at what Reinhart returned. Yeah Drury lost the trade by not getting back Thomas/Kyrou, but lets stop ignoring that they shopped Buch for weeks and given the money he wanted only a handful of teams were interested, if even that many. The Rangers needed the cap space and they needed the top 6 minutes opened up for the future of their youth. This is all simple, simple shit.

And I dont know where you are getting that Blais is some terribly slow skater. I have watched him play, he isn’t a damn tank out there. FFS.

And then making final judgements on an 18 year old winger they just drafted is just wild. At least let him play for the next year or 2 before starting to even have some level of concern.

Enough with the negativity

 

[Machinehead]

Most fans (Rangers, and general hockey fans) agree with me on Drury's moves, it's not like I'm just being some contrarian. Everyone is laughing at us right now. I like physical players who can skate, Blais isn't one of them. Othmann is also regarded as one of the worst skaters in the draft. Skating is the most important skill in hockey and it's like our team is allergic to good skaters lol

I wish I was kidnapped by Buch

People would laugh at us if we won the Cup.

Stop listening to people who know nothing about our team and have nothing better to do besides "New York bad."

 

[Mac n Gs]

In limited viewings, Blais really passes the eye test.

I do think physicality is a real thing and I do think they're elements to the game that doesn't require the player to have perfect analytics (Blais is nondescript in this department). So I feel like that's a bit of a misconception.

I just need your chart to not be beet red. The Rangers have made a habit out of employing those guys, and like I said yesterday, Goodrow, Blais, and Nemeth are 3-for-3 in terms of tough players who don't have backbreaking analytics.

He and Goodrow both grade out as two of the best forecheckers on their respective teams and generate a majority of their shots off of cycles. The only person that really excelled at both last year was Kakko.
I’m still frustrated with the Buch trade and lukewarm on the Goodrow deal, but both players do add unique elements that this team was lacking and should do a great job of both giving us a much more competent third line and the ability to change up our deployments depending on how the flow of the game is going.

I’m kind of hoping we can see a blend of blend of AV’s skill and Torts’ jam throughout the lineup. Luckily Gallant’s system is pretty representative of the best of both most of the time

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Most fans (Rangers, and general hockey fans) agree with me on Drury's moves, it's not like I'm just being some contrarian. Everyone is laughing at us right now. I like physical players who can skate, Blais isn't one of them. Othmann is also regarded as one of the worst skaters in the draft. Skating is the most important skill in hockey and it's like our team is allergic to good skaters lol

I wish I was kidnapped by Buch

Othmann has bad skating mechanics, he isn’t slow. He has plenty of power, it’s just not distributed efficiently. Mechanics can be fixed though.

he’s the reverse buchnevich in that case.

 

[will1066]

How much slower did we get though?
We got rid of Howden who was quick-ish but had the balance of a one legged man with vertigo and Buch was our slowest top 9 forward.

Besides, pure speed is overrated. Puck management and quick passes from D to F lifts up the skirts these days.

 

[NYblades]

Better not be Kravtsov

I wouldn't be happy with Chytil either, but they are going to want a center in any deal I imagine.

 

[Thirty One]

Besides, pure speed is overrated. Puck management and quick passes from D to F lifts up the skirts these days.

Q. How fast was the team that beat us in the Finals?
A. Not very fast.

 

[Hitch16]

I asked earlier, so I am not spamming but I am really wondering why we believe Drury turned down better offers for this trade with the Blues. Uninstaaled said it best, it's the "optics" of not getting a first. If Drury would have kept Buchnevich, extended him - would the board say "good job" or complain about not having enough ice-time to distribute or wonder why Drury wasn't moved for returns that weren't being offered?

 

[New York RKY]

Better not be Kravtsov

The kiss of death hath been bestowed.

 

[Raspewtin]

He and Goodrow both grade out as two of the best forecheckers on their respective teams and generate a majority of their shots off of cycles. The only person that really excelled at both last year was Kakko.
I’m still frustrated with the Buch trade and lukewarm on the Goodrow deal, but both players do add unique elements that this team was lacking and should do a great job of both giving us a much more competent third line and the ability to change up our deployments depending on how the flow of the game is going.

I’m kind of hoping we can see a blend of blend of AV’s skill and Torts’ jam throughout the lineup. Luckily Gallant’s system is pretty representative of the best of both most of the time

Barron full time will add here too.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Most fans (Rangers, and general hockey fans) agree with me on Drury's moves, it's not like I'm just being some contrarian. Everyone is laughing at us right now. I like physical players who can skate, Blais isn't one of them. Othmann is also regarded as one of the worst skaters in the draft. Skating is the most important skill in hockey and it's like our team is allergic to good skaters lol

I wish I was kidnapped by Buch

Rupert?

 

[NYR]

Most fans (Rangers, and general hockey fans) agree with me on Drury's moves, it's not like I'm just being some contrarian. Everyone is laughing at us right now. I like physical players who can skate, Blais isn't one of them. Othmann is also regarded as one of the worst skaters in the draft. Skating is the most important skill in hockey and it's like our team is allergic to good skaters lol

I wish I was kidnapped by Buch

If we get a center, like a real (legit) center, I don't think they will be laughing when it comes to a grinding playoff series.
This Vegas stuff is scaring me a bit but as long as Drury don't sell the farm to get JE we'll be a much stronger team then the one you've been watching the past few years, easily.

 

[will1066]

Q. How fast was the team that beat us in the Finals?
A. Not very fast.

That was 6-7 years ago -- eons. But I get you. Tampa didn't use pure speed as much as it did with transitions and making high percentage passes to beat the Isles and Habs.

 

[RGY]

I asked earlier, so I am not spamming but I am really wondering why we believe Drury turned down better offers for this trade with the Blues. Uninstaaled said it best, it's the "optics" of not getting a first. If Drury would have kept Buchnevich, extended him - would the board say "good job" or complain about not having enough ice-time to distribute or wonder why Drury wasn't moved for returns that weren't being offered.

Agreed.

And sure Drury probably could have held onto Buchnevich and traded him as a rental to a playoff contender willing to deal a 1st but that creates potential issues for next season:

1) It blocks Kakko/Kravtsov from getting more minutes / bigger roles

2) If the Rangers are having a great season, how does it affect the team when you trade Buch for a 1st round pick. What message is that sending? They certainly could not possibly self rent a 26/27 year old winger when they have replacement kids ready to go anyway.

It was time to move on and that was the market for him.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

 

[Rsswmu]

Othmann has bad skating mechanics, he isn’t slow. He has plenty of power, it’s just not distributed efficiently. Mechanics can be fixed though.

he’s the reverse buchnevich in that case.

Not sure why people keep posting that he is slow. Every viewing I have seen he is a strong skater. His mechanics are wonky but that can be fixed and it will make him an even better skater.

A couple of draft guides saying he had bad skating mechanics translated to people thinking he is slow, which no publication I saw said.

You are correct he is the anti Buch skating wise. Bad mechanics but quick.

 

[Thirty One]

I thought it said publicly tampered at first.

 

[jay from jersey]

Most fans (Rangers, and general hockey fans) agree with me on Drury's moves, it's not like I'm just being some contrarian. Everyone is laughing at us right now. I like physical players who can skate, Blais isn't one of them. Othmann is also regarded as one of the worst skaters in the draft. Skating is the most important skill in hockey and it's like our team is allergic to good skaters lol

I wish I was kidnapped by Buch

most fans of other teams are asshats. This forum has a lot of knowledgeable people in it. Far more then others on this site, and that’s not homer glasses either.
As far as the Buch trade, I think if there were more teams in desperate need of a wing he could have gotten a little more, or even if he held out to the TDL.
As far as his other moves, Drury has made the rangers a much much tougher team to play against. Not only in terms of personnel, but the character of the guys he brought in form a more cohesive unit.
Barron for a full year, Gallant as HC, our kids being a year older with a proper offseason/ camp, and adding Goodrow and Blais are all good things. He addressed what this team lacked, and he’s putting out elite kids in better position as far as ice time goes, so I don’t know why they would be laughing.
The rumor was Drury took the best deal for Buch. The guy never broke 50 pts over an 82 game stretch. He was on the market for the better part of 2 seasons. His play in the short seasons was excellent, but I have my doubts of him keeping up that pace over a full year, especially making 6 mill.
I’m happy the 2nd he got was in a better draft, the blues aren’t exactly a powerhouse in the west, so it could be a nice pick. Blais Brings things that Buch didn’t do and that we need more of. He also has decent hands.
I know you loved Buch, but let it go already. It’s bordering on be unhealthy with your constant berating of everything Drury/ rangers.
They are better now then last season

 

[duhmetreE]

Look past the individual and see how the components of the team come together.

We are a better team than last year. It's not even close IMO.. sprinkle in Gallant and good times are ahead

 

[Vitto79]

So Martinook or Nosek or both tomor ?
How many bottom 6 adds