Machinehead
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Wouldn't be the first time I hated somebody in that context although the order is usually the other way around.
Speculation: Roster Building LX: The Return of Cap(tain) Crunch aka LB Bus Stop Theme
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turris is signed for 5 more years @ $6 mil per. it would be cheaper to buyout both staal and smith and deal with the dead space for 4 years
NYR Viper
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I much rather have Chytil as our 2C with Strome as the back up plan than bring in Kyle Turris for 6 mil a year who has proven he CANT be a 2C anymore. Why is this even a conversation?
JC704
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If the organization is high enough on the idea Rykov can win the third pair LHD minutes out of training camp, then they should buy out both Staal and Smith (while still exploring trades for Namestnikov).
Skjei-Trouba
Hajek-Shattenkirk/Deangelo
Rykov-Fox
Give Shattenkirk the chance to compete with Deangelo/Fox for minutes. If Shatty impresses, he builds up his trade value in season or gives JG a chance to explore Deangelo's market.
I think the defense at this point is addition by subtraction. Having a young forward group and blueline that can skate would do wonders for Hank.
Skjei-Trouba
Hajek-Shattenkirk/Deangelo
Rykov-Fox
Give Shattenkirk the chance to compete with Deangelo/Fox for minutes. If Shatty impresses, he builds up his trade value in season or gives JG a chance to explore Deangelo's market.
I think the defense at this point is addition by subtraction. Having a young forward group and blueline that can skate would do wonders for Hank.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
He had a very low on-ice SH% at both 5v5 and PP. That's certainly part of it. Of all defenseman who played 800 mins at 5v5 he was 22nd worst at 5v5 and for all defenseman who played 100 mins on the PP he was 5th last.
Machinehead
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has nothing to do with trouba they decided on panarin over kreider. can't have 2 aging wingers making that much $$ on the back end of their deals
Chalfdiggity3
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Why?
1 is 25yo just entering his prime
2 is 28yo disappears throughout the season and in game and contract will take him through mid 30s.
They both score basically the same amount of points and 1 is a defenseman the other a forward.
To be honest I like krieder but if he wants Anders Lee type contract which I'm sure someone will offer him, I'll be happy when hes with another team.
Machinehead
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They'll cost the same and Kreider is a better player who impacts the game more across the board.
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Machinehead
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haohmaru
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Depends on the game and which Kreider shows up.
I'll take the comparable 24 minute D over the 16-17 minute W all day every day.
Chalfdiggity3
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I'd say they impact the game the same. When krieder is on he I pacts the game, but more often than not do you see krieder out there? Hes a Houdini, you see him for a moment then the rest if the game, nowhere to be found.
You really want to sign a player like that at 28yo to a 7y 7m aav contract? We would be regretting that very quickly.
We are a rebuilding team. We signed panarin. With krieder`s money.
Machinehead
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SA16
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Amazing Kreiderman
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They said the same about Lucic, Brown, Callahan and a bunch of others.
Machinehead
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Don't see the similarity.
We can't criticize Kreider for "disappearing" and then claim he's a player that runs after the puck like a chicken without his head.
Machinehead
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We're a rebuilding team and I was on board with the idea of moving on from Kreider to facilitate the rebuild and our cap situation, but here we are spending money anyway.
Chalfdiggity3
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We are spending money on players who have a long term future for us. a legit top 20 player in the league and a 25yo #2 defenseman.
I'd be okay with signing krieder to a 4yr 5m aav contract but he wants to cash in and will get 7yr 7m aav. Krieder for all the love he gets, does not deserve that type of money. Paying a guy who disappears for most of the season and for long stretches in games who will be 35 when his contract is over is just not smart. He will quickly deteriorate in his physicality and speed. Just like many others have before him.
SA16
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I am willing to bet that within 4, if not 3 years, the next Kreider contract is going to be seen as a really bad deal (provided the contract is around what we're expecting).
i love kreider and badly wish they could find a way to keep him on a 5 year deal but he won't go that short..
that said your comparison is kreider vs panarin...not kreider vs trouba. panarin is the guy they signed that is forcing kreider out
that said your comparison is kreider vs panarin...not kreider vs trouba. panarin is the guy they signed that is forcing kreider out
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