Plus what? Toronto's 1st?Pontus Holmberg
25 years old making 800K who also plays center and had 17 points in 50 odd games
Surely you dont think Holmberg straight up is anywhere remotely close to fair value....
Plus what? Toronto's 1st?Pontus Holmberg
25 years old making 800K who also plays center and had 17 points in 50 odd games
Plus what? Toronto's 1st?
Surely you dont think Holmberg straight up is anywhere remotely close to fair value....
They just traded for himWith Seravalli speculating the Avs might be interested in moving on from Colton, I think it would be interesting to see what the best offer is for him.
Colton is an offensive 3C who has some grit and great playoff experience. He’s 27 and has 3 more years at $4m.
Coming off his best offensive season (17g+23a in 80 games) what is the best offer for Colton?
The Avs would be looking for cap space and/or a replacement 3c that is more affordable.
Sharks offer Thomas Bordeleau and our 2025 2nd for Colton.
We actually do.We absolutely don't.
We actually do.
When will people finally understand the 35th pick just isn't that valuable? No, another Halttunen or Lund or Bordeleau for that matter does not move the needle for the Sharks compared to adding a versatile middle six NHL forward still in the prime of his career.Unless you think we're up for some miracle turnaround this year, that's a top 35 draft pick.
For a rebuilding team, that's worth inordinately more to the Sharks than Ross Colton, who will be a few months off 29, when the 2025 draft rolls around. The guy has played on two NHL rosters choc full of firepower and only reached 40 points once - he's a bottom 6 player.
Whatever you think of Thomas Bordeleau's value, that's deluded asset management for a rebuilding team.
When will people finally understand the 35th pick just isn't that valuable? No, another Halttunen or Lund or Bordeleau for that matter does not move the needle for the Sharks compared to adding a versatile middle six NHL forward still in the prime of his career.
Colton would be an ideal LW to play on a line with Celebrini and Smith this season. He could then slide to 3C for the next few years once we trade Nico Sturm. After that, you either trade him and likely recoup much of the price paid (because GMs are always looking for Cup winners who play the right way) or extend him if he's still effective.
Defintiely my favourite offer so far and addresses the Avs needs.Robertson and Holmberg?
I figure the Avs want cheap productive NHL players.
Robertson's pt/game is similar to Colton
If Holtz was getting moved, he would have been moved already to either San Jose, or Calgary.Holtz+ a third?
He hasn't been bad at all, but he's not a natural center and it shows. Hes a bang and crasher who can score points but isn't great defensively, average at best. He doesn't PK, barely plays the PP and he makes 4 million for a cash strapped team like the Avs.Colton has been that bad? He's the perfect #3C who can also play on the wing if needed.
He hasn't been bad at all, but he's not a natural center and it shows. Hes a bang and crasher who can score points but isn't great defensively, average at best. He doesn't PK, barely plays the PP and he makes 4 million for a cash strapped team like the Avs.
The fit just isn't really there.
Absolutely not.If you wanted to do Kakko for Wood+ I’d be more than happy though haha
Ok I'll let Chris MacFarland know that WTFMAN99 rescinded his offer of Holmberg and Robertson. Thanks for the heads up!I'd rescind my offer of Holmberg and Robertson then.
Need an actual 3C and ideally PK help.
He sounds like average middle 6 forward, someone will definitely want him though.
Ok I'll let Chris MacFarland know that WTFMAN99 rescinded his offer of Holmberg and Robertson. Thanks for the heads up!
He's not even good in front of net? How does he score points if he can't do much of anything?He hasn't been bad at all, but he's not a natural center and it shows. Hes a bang and crasher who can score points but isn't great defensively, average at best. He doesn't PK, barely plays the PP and he makes 4 million for a cash strapped team like the Avs.
The fit just isn't really there.
Who said he wasn't good in front of the net?He's not even good in front of net? How does he score points if he can't do much of anything?
I just thought that a guy like him could be used on the PP before the net, but you wrote that he is almost never used on the PP. I just want to understand what Ross Colton is good at.Who said he wasn't good in front of the net?
he's not better than Nichushkin or Lehkonen in front of the net, so we didn't get much time to evaluate him thereI just thought that a guy like him could be used on the PP before the net, but you wrote that he is almost never used on the PP. I just want to understand what Ross Colton is good at.
I mean if he's fed #1 PP time on a bad team I wouldn't be surprised if he got to 60 points.Ehhhh, I think those thoughts pretty much died this year. He spent a lot of time as the Avs 2C and didn't ever really get the production to go along with it.
He pretty much is what he is at this point. Solid 3rd liner who can play physical, score goals at a 2nd line pace, but isn't reliable defensively. FWIW at $4M, not overpaid at all, pretty much paid exactly what he should be for what he brings.
I think wherever he goes(And I still doubt Colorado actually trades him btw), they should play him back at LW. That's where he's most efficient and can create the most havoc on his line.