I don't think many people will be too happy when he signs. I'd love to be surprised.
Confirmed with Link: Ross Colton Traded To Avs for #37 OA Pick In 2023 Draft, signs 4-year x $4M deal
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expatriatedtexan
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I was unable to find his player card on the Athletic. I would be interested in what Dom's market value estimation of Colton is.
[edit...found it. Dom had him valued at 2.7M last season.
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[edit...found it. Dom had him valued at 2.7M last season.
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The thing is on a 2 year deal, that is 1 RFA year, 1 UFA year. You probably get the RFA year at $3.5M, but that UFA year is a $4.5M year which balances out to a $4.0 aav.
If you go 5 years, again you're basically looking at 1 RFA year at $3.5M and then 4 UFA years in the $4.5M+ Range.
The fact we know the cap is going up ~$4M next year and likely another ~$4M the year after factors into this as well. Ross isn't going to take a 4-5 year deal unless he's paid well to compensate for those raises because he knows if he were to take just a 1 or 2 year deal he can be a UFA free to sign anywhere on either a $88M cap next summer or $92M the summer after that where he probably gets the same $5M+ offers JTC just got.
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I will bet dollars to doughnuts this delay is all about term. Ross wants this contract short so he can cash in, we want it longer but he's (rightfully, imo) asking for a lot of of AAV for a longer deal. He's trying to bet on himself.
I bet we end up at 2-3 years at 3.5M-ish and everyone is slightly pissed.
I bet we end up at 2-3 years at 3.5M-ish and everyone is slightly pissed.
Gumballhead
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Slightly pissed is our normal state around here, in both the traditional and British meanings.
BobRossColton
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So if he gets two, Byram+Mikko+Colton all due in the same off season sounds like a pain in the ass.
2x$3.5M would honestly be fairly ok for the Avs. That's a low aav and our windown isn't lasting beyond 2-3 years anyway. So long as they let him walk as a UFA after.
There's just zero chance he signs for that cheap even on a 2 year deal. Not with only 1 RFA year left.
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And Giorgiev, I believe.
I hear you, but I don’t believe the Avs gave up on Newhook with just a two year return in mind.
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They "gave up" on Newhook because they got a king's ransom for him and because they didn't want to give him $2M+ considering what he brought to the team. The Colton negotiation is a separate deal.
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Would be a good nick name, he should do it just for that.
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Colton gets 4 x 3.6m and a Peter Forsberg signed puck.
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He hasn’t earned the Foppa puck yet, he can have a de Vries signed puck for now.
Oh for sure.
The Avs will push for more term. But I also highly doubt the Avs believe they have just a ~2 year window left either. Teams always greatly overestimate the length of their windows and the Avs will be no different on that front.
I'd say the Avs are hoping right bow to get 4-5 years at ~$4M while Coltons camp will be wanting either 2 years for that kind of money, or 4-5 years at what Lehkonen got, maybe even slightly more given the coming cap raises and the fact Colton is a Center.
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The idea behind the shorthand phrase dollars to doughnuts is the sentiment that the speaker is so confident that he is right about something, he will put forth his dollars against the listener's doughnuts in a wager, the dollars having much higher value than the doughnuts.
Jazzguitar
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If we got McDavid 75% retained for a 7th people would still find a way to be upset.
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I'd be OK with it as long as it is not the 7th in the next draft. We need to make that pick....
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Oddly enough there was a discussion on main board about trades and league looking into every trade and approving them. I actually asked if the league would approve McDavid for 7th round pick, and someone responded saying no they wouldn’t
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Why not? McDavid only plays half the game, no defense to be found with that kid. No heart.
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I agree, but I’d give up a 7th for him
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I don't necessarily want to get into a Newhook debate, but he is easily worth $2M per year.
I get that the Avs needed a center, and finally decided that Newhook ain't it. But Newhook still has/had value, and Colton's upcoming contract is part of the return on that value.
