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There's no combo of picks and prospects that I wouldn't consider giving to STL in a trade for ROR or Tarasenko.
Value of: ROR to the Leafs at the deadline.
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Maybe the Leafs want to grab both Tarasenko AND RoR @50%.
Tho I doubt Leafs would want to lose 2 1st round equivalent pieces in the same trade.
I'm not so sure about that, remember that leaked trade with Chicago? There were 2 1sts in that.
MAF
Hagel
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Mrazek
Knies
2 1sts
Now I will grant you that in that case Hagel has some term and team control but Kyle was willing to move 2 1sts in that deal, I don't see why he wouldn't do it again especially if they could land both and make the offense borderline unstoppable
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As much as I would love 2 firsts for either guy or both guys, I can't see a GM trading 2 firsts for any rental. The only reason Hagel got two firsts is because Tampa knew their firsts would be very low and they desperately needed cost-controlled talent. A guy capable of scoring 20+ goals earning $1.5 million per year is pretty darn valuable to a contending team.
That being said, I still think TB slightly overpaid for Hagel and I can't imagine how badly Leafs fans would have melted down if the above trade had gone through. Rightfully so I might add.
TheDoldrums
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Whoa slow down with the Giordano praise! Very generous of you to concede the possibility that a Norris winner has a higher hockey IQ than Joel Edmundson
In hindsight maybe yes but at the time I think we were upset because we NEEDED a goalie
Falco Lombardi
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I’m pretty open to trading either ROR or Tarasenko or both to Toronto and rooting for a Toronto cup victory
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Not only do the Blues need to take on 2 contracts, but these contracts need to be 'heavy enough' to get the Leafs under the cap. Kerfoot and Engvall/Holl (maybe even all 3) would certainly have to come back for the Leafs to be capcompliant. Blues probably need another pick/prospect to do so.
- O'Reilly @50%
- Tarasenko @50%
- taking on the Kerfoot contract
- taking on the Engvall (and/or) Holl contract(s)
for
- 2023 1st
- 2024 1st
- Knies
- another pick/prospect
If ROR can be extended by the Leafs in the 5.5 to 6 mill range then the Leafs should move a couple of firsts for him. If ROR is looking for anything over 6 long term after this year the Leafs should target someone else.
TheBeastCoast
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I don't think it is very realistic that the Leafs would be able to fit in both Tarasenko and ROR. Likely one or the other. My preference being ROR.
Blues are only at 48 out of 50 contracts. We'd be able to take back expiring contracts if needed. Looking at Toronto's players. It would most likely be a combination of 2 or all 3 of Holl, Kerfoot, and Engvall. But, Blues definitely have room to make it work without getting a 3rd team involved.
TheGroceryStick
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I'm used to opposing teams fans shutting down everything and being hard to deal with.
I don't know what to do? I've got Stockholm syndrome.... someone tell me the Leafs suck and aren't getting anyone!
I don't know what to do? I've got Stockholm syndrome.... someone tell me the Leafs suck and aren't getting anyone!
Blues fans are totally on the Tank Train this season. We've not had a lot of fun so far. Tarasenko and RoR are our top prime rentals to trade away. While not wanting to take 4 years to be good again. Lol
Rants Mulliniks
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How many teams are faring better than the Leafs with their drafting? Dubas just keeps spitting out talent. He just produced Sandin, has WJC best dman Niemela, Knies looking like a unicorn, Voit is crushing the rest of the OHL, several other prospects looking like NHL calibre players, a farm team chugging right along…..Yes, Leafs famously have a loaded talent pool ready
Yea and Leafs are also light on D prospects so unless they are willing to give up SAndin I think another team will have a better offer for the Blues.
There’s a reason they are able to keep walking away from players with no return yet keep getting better. I mean, 6 players from 2018 are getting NHL time.
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Blues are a lot better at drafting than most teams.
Rants Mulliniks
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Not entirely sure what that has to do with someone basically claiming the Leaf cupboard is empty? I mean, he might as well hang a sign saying “I don’t follow but have an opinion”.
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We also won a couple cups and on the way down as time goes on. How far down is the question and I guess could possibly take the one step up to win it since they won it the two years before. However we can make a risky move like that while leafs may be more hesitant since going out in the first round a lot making that move would absolutely make leafs fans upset and understandable so. However we did win a game 7 there and Hagel wasn't the difference but one of our other moves was in Paul. Making moves sometimes makes that difference in the postseason and you don't know it till it goes. We did the prior years when we also went to the finals but won it. Sometimes you gotta get rid of young guys to make that push forward. Also can't forget McDonagh trade where we parted with guys who people thought was a lot but I don't even know those guys are in the league.
I don't believe there is any possibility that the Leafs pursue both ROR and Tarasenko. There likely isn't a way to make the cap work, and the Leafs really don't have the assets.
Of course, ROR would be the preferred target. If available in the rental market, he's probably the #1 commodity. I'd imagine that you're talking about at least 2 of Knies/1st/Sandin or Liljegren plus another asset.... maybe even all 3 of those pieces.
There's also the challenge in that the only way to fit ROR in is with Muzzin forsure done (or you move Kerfoot and do some minor finnagling elsewhere to make up the $250k). If Muzzin is done, a blueline that consists of Rielly, Brodie, Holl, Sandin, Liljegren & Giordano is the obvious weakness... even if they have another 4 or 5 NHL-quality dmen that can step in for injuries.
If Dubas was a GM that's 1-2 years into the job, then I'd say there's no way he blows that kind of haul on a rental like ROR.
But, given that Dubas seems to be on his last leash, and 2 of your biggest stars will each be a year away from UFA this summer, it seems like the exact "all-in" move that Dubas would probably be best served making.
Of course, ROR would be the preferred target. If available in the rental market, he's probably the #1 commodity. I'd imagine that you're talking about at least 2 of Knies/1st/Sandin or Liljegren plus another asset.... maybe even all 3 of those pieces.
There's also the challenge in that the only way to fit ROR in is with Muzzin forsure done (or you move Kerfoot and do some minor finnagling elsewhere to make up the $250k). If Muzzin is done, a blueline that consists of Rielly, Brodie, Holl, Sandin, Liljegren & Giordano is the obvious weakness... even if they have another 4 or 5 NHL-quality dmen that can step in for injuries.
If Dubas was a GM that's 1-2 years into the job, then I'd say there's no way he blows that kind of haul on a rental like ROR.
But, given that Dubas seems to be on his last leash, and 2 of your biggest stars will each be a year away from UFA this summer, it seems like the exact "all-in" move that Dubas would probably be best served making.
If ROR is willing to extend at a 6 mill cap hit or under I'd pay two 1sts plus a decent prospect. Otherwise I don't think the Leafs should be giving up those assets for a rental.
Is it likely they pursue both? No
but they absolutely can make the money work and do have the assets
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