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Prospect Info: Riley Kidney, LHC, Gatineau Olympiques (QMJHL ), 63rd overall
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Fatbiggie
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He’a also pretty frail, looks like he hasn’t had puberty yet. Will be interesting to see in a few seasons what he will become. Talent is there.
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His lack of physicallity and overall top speed will cost him. Maybe a good AHL player ???
He still has a very young body as a 19 year old. He needs strength and maturity.
His skating is I think better than Roy's. He plays with more pace.
He needs time and proper development.
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I think we have at least an AHL player there. Laval will be fun to watch nex year with Roy, Kidney, etc.
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Yes, that is well said. There are game players, practice players and 3 on 3 players. That's why tryouts are sometimes misleading. Players that shine in tryouts and skill evaluations environments, often disappear in full competitive (read: contact) situations.
Skating, but it has improved since being drafted.
His other problem is physical maturity, he looked 14 year old when he was drafted, but that also seems to be correcting itself.
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Can he have a Ribeiro like career (without being the pos that Ribs was that is)?
Ribeiro had monster years in Q, and had a similar profile in terms of skating and strength (he was a feather as a 19 year old).
After being drafted, he played two more Q seasons (albeit he played 19 games with Montreal in his d+2 season before they sent him back) then one-and-a-half seasons in AHL before making Montreal.
I feel like Kidney sort of plays a similar type game.
Ribeiro had monster years in Q, and had a similar profile in terms of skating and strength (he was a feather as a 19 year old).
After being drafted, he played two more Q seasons (albeit he played 19 games with Montreal in his d+2 season before they sent him back) then one-and-a-half seasons in AHL before making Montreal.
I feel like Kidney sort of plays a similar type game.
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Many ( including this writer) had the same concerns with respect to Roy. No one can question Kidney’s skill level. Can he develop the extra step and necessary grit to compete at the next level where opposing players are bigger, stronger and faster ( and possess equal skill levels) is the question.
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Would be awesome if he can reach Ribs level
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Like Ribeiro, Kidney have high offensive talent. I think if he become better at physical aspect and better skater, Habs have a realy good one with Kidney. This guy have high hockey IQ, great hands, great passing ability and he can shoot too. Kidney and Roy are too great prospect from LHJMQ. No doubt. Roy is a more "safer" prospect, but Kidney have potential to become a very good NHL player.
True. Wickenheiser reportedly had moves in practice that very few players could do. It didn't transfer to games though.
Kidney is on a good team with good linemates who go to the net. He’ll put up points for the rest of the year but he has no pressure to improve the weak points of his game.
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Before his arrival (and the goalie), the Piques were considered a team that could drive but not finish as much…and couldn’t stop a beachball.
His passing is elite in the Q. Not sure it translates, but I wouldn’t bet against him.
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Yes but they added Justin Gendron, Cam McDonald and Francesco Lapenna in the net who is a top 5 in the league. Plus most importantly, Olivier Nadeau has comeback from his injury. They are stack offensively.
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Not knocking his ability but he is now in a position to use his strengths and not worry about anything else. It’s possible he could have a similar role in the NHL.
He should put up tons of points.
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Because people are delusional about the trade value of prospects.
Sure he could be thrown into a trade and affect the value a bit, but he is not seen as a blue chipper around the league and wouldn't make a huge difference in a deal. We might as well keep our prospects and see what they become.
But some people just want the quick way out. The one that doesn't work.
Habs Halifax
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His biggest asset is hockey IQ. So he if he is smart enough, he knows what areas to improve at and put energy at it. Skating and physical strength are two areas he needs to work at.
I see 2 AHL seasons after this season.
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Asking honestly. How hard is it to train to become a better skater? I mean team has amazing resources, trainers etc. It's not a soft skill as much as a learned one i.e. hockey IQ, hockey sense etc. If I was a young player and skating was my only glaring fault, it would seem to me that you'd spend a significant amount of time getting better at that, no?
The knock on Suzuki and Caufield was also their skating but they've come a long way to fix their strides and have it not be an issue anymore. If Kidney could fix his skating, I think he'd be a higher end prospect than he is now and have a real chance at becoming a regular NHLer, if not with the Habs, somewhere else.
The knock on Suzuki and Caufield was also their skating but they've come a long way to fix their strides and have it not be an issue anymore. If Kidney could fix his skating, I think he'd be a higher end prospect than he is now and have a real chance at becoming a regular NHLer, if not with the Habs, somewhere else.
Habs Halifax
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All comes down to how obsessive you are at improving it. Some players work hard at it here and there thinking they will get results and some other players get obsessive with it like playing a video game in the late hours of the night cause they can't give up on it.
