Rielly

[PromisedLand]

When you have hopes of contending, you don't unload Morgan Rielly at a 5m cap hit. Sucks if we lose him in the off-season for nothing more than cap space, but we have little to no choice. Unloading him now for prospects or picks would be crippling to our back end

Leafs are "NOT" a contender.

 

[zeke]

Leafs are "NOT" a contender.

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[Legion34]

Leafs are "NOT" a contender.

Your progression over the past 6 months feels like the start of Joker.

it’s the closest thing I think to the start of the interacting——> the winter soldier origin story.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Your progression over the past 6 months feels like the start of Joker.

it’s the closest thing I think to the start of the interacting——> the winter soldier origin story.

MLSE needs to fund some sort of support group for these poor souls.

 

[Sypher04]

My dislike for Dubas just continues to increase. Just when I think he cannot F up anymore he rises to the occasion.

lol I’m not criticizing Dubas for not taking an alleged deal posted by a random HFBoard member. Nobody here has a clue what is happening in these private negotiations

 

[diceman934]

Reilly is not a PP1 dman or a #1 or #2 Dman and he should be he wants 7-9 million. Brodie and Muzzin are better all round defenders, why pay him more than both? He is not worth it. Dubas is smart to not re sign him but making a mistake not moving him. The Leafs imo will not miss Reilly. They need another Brodie or Muzzin, guys who are playoff dmen. Reilly is not a good defender, is soft and lacks a second fight or determination to win battles. The Leafs biggest weakness is defending leads, winning 2-1 games. They need a defensive defenseman, not Reilly. Yes id respect Dubas for moving Reilly for a lesser skating, better defending dman with no flash.

Yet the last 5 years rielly was easily our best D man. Last season heads and shoulders better.

 

[diceman934]

If we lose him, it will be for $6-7m in capspace to spend, not for nothing.

For nothing. His cap hit is 5 m

 

[diceman934]

You would think that would be signed by now if true.

It was true. No longer I believe.

 

[Golden_Jet]

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Yep betting odds,
line moves depending which way a bet goes.
If there was a Toronto bookie, the odds would be worse as the money would be going on Toronto, so the bookie then lowers the odds, not to lose money.
As the season goes on the line changes, as teams show if they’re good or not.

 

[The CyNick]

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I would recommend more understanding of how betting odds work. It's not a list of the best teams.

 

[zeke]

For nothing. His cap hit is 5 m

His caphit is 5m now. But not signing him next year frees up however much he would cost for someone else.

 

[zeke]

I would recommend more understanding of how betting odds work. It's not a list of the best teams.

Yes I would also recommend you learn about betting odds.

 

[The CyNick]

Yes I would also recommend you learn about betting odds.

I do understand. You seem to think it equates to who are the contenders. Which is false.

 

[HockeyVirus]

I do consider it a failure on management if he walks. The amount of talent let walk for nothing the past 5 years, assuming we lose in first round again, is hard to look at.

 

[ACC1224]

I do understand. You seem to think it equates to who are the contenders. Which is false.

Some seem to think it's a 'power ranking' which it's not.

 

[The CyNick]

Some seem to think it's a 'power ranking' which it's not.

That's what the prior poster (not sure his handle) seemed to be concluding based on his response about the Leafs not being a contender.

 

[zeke]

I do understand. You seem to think it equates to who are the contenders. Which is false.

You don't seem to understand betting odds.

 

[Budz]

Time to deal 44 in a huge deal - multiplayers

 

[Super Mega]

It was true. No longer I believe.

What could have happened to change things?

 

[The Apologist]

Not for a player who is giving you that kind of discount IMO.

While I would agree with you, Dubas may not like the idea of an NMC at 6 plus at 37/38 years old.

 

[The Apologist]

What could have happened to change things?

The season starts Wednesday does it not? The belief is that Rielly does not want to negotiate during the season. If this contract was in fact on the table and Morgan Rielly walks then management needs to go. Not that we will ever know.

 

[zeke]

The belief is that Rielly does not want to negotiate during the season.

he said he didn't care about that.

 

[123offtheglass]

MLSE needs to fund some sort of support group for these poor souls.

As Leafs fans I think we all could use an emotional support group, this team breaks hearts & souls.

 

[123offtheglass]

IMO 7.5m X 8 is the MAX they can offer Rielly. Full NMC, they can structure the pay to his choosing.

Optimistic 'home town discount' comparables are maybe Parayko (6.5m X 8), Ellis (6.25m X 8)... Pelech took 5.75m X 8 which is nuts.

Open market even if he chased money I doubt he'd get 9M, probably close to 8.5m... 8m if he's willing to sign a reasonable deal with a competitive team.

 

[diceman934]

That makes sense, yet, it isn't such a major issue, that they can't find middle ground... you'd think on that one point.

No middle ground when he would be taking a 2m per haircut to stay.