Confirmed with Link: Rielly signs 8 year extension - 7.5M AAV

[WickedPegJets]

Agreed. However you're looking at the Reilly deal in isolation. In that respect it is a good deal, strictly on a player value/AAV basis.

The fact remains that Reilly has been a big part of all of the underachieving of the last few years. So will he be part of the problem, or part of the solution going forward?

I read that Morgan Rielly doesn’t have a hard slap shot and thus isn’t an ideal point man on the power play. Defensively, he’s average.

 

[IPS]

They also couldnt get past Pittsburgh, sure it wasnt a 1st round roadblock, but the same concept applies.

So what? They actually won something in the playoffs, something we haven't done.

Dubas/the Leafs are not in the same company as these comparisons you guys bring up no matter how badly you want them to be.

 

[DraftSchmaft]

JT earned his contract at that point in his career, turning down significantly more money to come here. He also chose Toronto, not the other way around. A major distinction.

So, even when his numbers aren't always there, he is working hard and driving the net. He had the courage to jump into the fishbowl. I'm loyal to such players and commend their courage (relative to the application of such a term to sports) as they didn't take the easy, stress-free road.

All the other three IMO are overpaid to varying degrees simply due to the control the Leafs had at the time. Matthews, the least overpaid of the lot.

From a purely business perspective, it can be argued that no Leaf is overpaid as the franchise is the most valuable in the league in terms of dollars. However, from a practical, logistical, "Cup seeking standpoint", I would personally have taken a different approach than Dubas from the initial negotiation with Nylander, to set the boundaries (it would have been different had this team won a couple of rounds).

In the end, I've said that some of Dubas trades and tight money pickups have been excellent. Those early contracts were always going to bite the team barring a sizeable increase in the Cap.

I'm going to guess 1% of the population predicted covid so the sizeable increase that was projected was a good bet to make. It was a prediction made league wide by the leagues best economists that the cap would be in that 86-88 mil range today possibly pushing 90 soon. We'd have been fine.

Can't make covid an excuse though. Have to roll with the punches. But I do use covid to go easy on the personal shots towards Dubas. He didn't cause covid.

 

[WickedPegJets]

8 years at 7.5 million a season

MR will be the Leafs’s 4th highest paid player next season which makes Nylander’s contract more and more a bargain.

 

[Dreakmur]

They also couldnt get past Pittsburgh, sure it wasnt a 1st round roadblock, but the same concept applies.

Repeatedly losing to a borderline dynasty is not the same as losing to Columbus and Montreal.

 

[Dreakmur]

I'm going to guess 1% of the population predicted covid so the sizeable increase that was projected was a good bet to make. It was a prediction made league wide by the leagues best economists that the cap would be in that 86-88 mil range today possibly pushing 90 soon. We'd have been fine.

Can't make covid an excuse though. Have to roll with the punches. But I do use covid to go easy on the personal shots towards Dubas. He didn't cause covid.

If the cap went up, just about every contract signed since would have been more.

 

[DraftSchmaft]

If the cap went up, just about every contract signed since would have been more.

Not going to sit here and pretend I know what today's state would be if covid never happened. Waste of time to praise or condemn. All we know is they rightfully at the time predicted they'd have an extra 7 mil wiggle room today and then a sci fi movie slapped them.

 

[WickedPegJets]

of course there was a massive discount

Elliott just reported that his home town team Van was preparing to offer him at least 10m x 7 yrs if he became a ufa , lol .

Yeah right! How is that Tyler Myers’s deal working out?

 

[WickedPegJets]

This is a fair deal for both sides! Happy with it! Thanks for the loyalty, Morgan! We might even consider that he took a home town discount!

Without a cap, Dubas would have given Rielly Seth Jones money.

 

[WickedPegJets]

You know what f*** it, I'll go on the record and say it right now. I think this contract is going to be utter garbage in ~2 years time.

Agreed. Morgan isn’t the bruiser type of DMan with a rocket shot like Shea Weber.

 

[WickedPegJets]

Did not expect this..not loving the aav but not bad seeing other contracts în the league..

How does Morgan feel reading our posts that said that compared to other defensemen making much more that his new contract is acceptable? LOL.

 

[yubbers]

Just saw he got a NMC for the first six years. Thats a tough.

That changes it all for me. I was like "that's very moveable" Nope

 

[sittler rules!!!]

I think they will restructure the team. And I’m not convinced Campbell is getting a huge raise

Hoping Marner Holl, Muzzin gone next year.

 

[francis246]

Hoping Marner Holl, Muzzin gone next year.

id be happy with Holl and Muzzin! Keep my boy Magic Mitch!

 

[Kurtz]

So what? They actually won something in the playoffs, something we haven't done.

Dubas/the Leafs are not in the same company as these comparisons you guys bring up no matter how badly you want them to be.

They also got swept by Columbus the year before they won.

 

[Racer88]

They definition had crucial ELCs (Cirelli, Cernak, Sergachev) contribute to the cup they actually stayed under the cap for, but the point is that takes time, as illustrated by the fact that they have no ELCs yet from their last 7 drafts, which is significantly longer, say, than our front office has even been in charge.

It’s getting close so hopefully we start seeing some sort of improvement

 

[TheBigFour]

Without a cap, Dubas would have given Rielly Seth Jones money.

SO?
If the cap didn't exist, why would you care how much a player makes lol?

 

[Dreakmur]

They also missed the playoffs entirely the year before they won.

Hmmm...

Washington Capitals Franchise History | Hockey-Reference.com

 

[CelticDruid]

Morgan played fairly well in last year's playoffs, but this is a million too much. The NMC is over the top, way too long.

Great skater, but that's it.

 

[BigGulpsEh]

I have mixed feelings. Its a fairly good contract based on comparables.

Rielly def has his shortcomings and he has been part of this core that keeps failing. Hard to say if he is the solution to getting over the hump.

On the other side it would be hard to replace him and pay the same or less.

 

[Kurtz]

However they have won 2 cups in that time and had many playoff round wins……we have had nothing in the way of those success’s, so probably not a great comparison

I don't know about great, but it's an interesting comparison though. They drafted the following key guys:

Killorn: 2007
Stamkos: 2008
Hedman: 2009
Kucherov: 2011
Vasilevsky: 2012
Point: 2014

Stanley Cup win: 2020. Took them 6 years after they assembled their star core to win the cup. And in year 5 they got swept by CBJ in the first round.

 

[Kurtz]

Hmmm...

Washington Capitals Franchise History | Hockey-Reference.com

Yep, meant to say didn't win a playoff game. Swept by Columbus.

 

[Dreakmur]

Yep, meant to say didn't win a playoff game. Swept by Columbus.

Talking about Washington, not Tampa Bay.

 

[NinjaKick]

Being one our best players in the playoffs every year isn't exactly a ringing endorsement given the results.

MO is part of the solution, not the problem

 

[Kurtz]

Talking about Washington, not Tampa Bay.

Gotcha, yeah, I was talking Tampa. Washington is interesting for a dif reason - couldn't win forever with Ovi, couldn't get by round 2...and then won.