Rielly ranked #1 of 2012 draft class in TSN (Craig Button) Top 30 NHL Prospects

[Frankie]

I am interested in seeing Rielly's performance spun into a negative from Frankie. I eagerly await the downplaying and questions to follow.

not at all, full credit to rielly for turning things around. he's proven all you excuse-makers people wrong.

you'll probably say this means nothing, that wjc performance is irrelevant. you've already said it. it doesn't guarantee anything, but its not meaningless.

lets hope he keeps it going, and lets hope people can finally stop making up excuses if things don't go as we hope.

 

[Bomber0104]

Fell Asleep after the first period and woke to a big comeback and not surprisingly led by Morgan.

Some guy said this yesterday:



Just what Morgan needed, a little confidence, now he is on his way.

I said the same thing (but before you) Interactif!

My go-to excuse would be that he gets nervous on big stages (draft). He's a recovering stutterer so it seems his nerves get the better of him at times. As the tournament goes on, expect Rielly to get better and better as he becomes more comfortable.

 

[pooleboy]

This whole tourny I've been telling my friends how good rielly is and that he's playing way to conservative. After he scored it looked like so much weight had come off his shoulders and finally played like he is capable of. That one shift he called for the puck like 5 times is the way MR usually plays. We have a gem in the making

 

[zeke]

no, not at all. nothing in his environment has changed.

rielly isn't suddenly older. the coach isn't suddenly smarter. his teammates are the same.

the only thing that has changed is the rielly has now played like we knew he could, like we expected he would. i refuse to take any credit away from him for that.

the excuses were ridiculous. rielly gets all the credit for this turn-around.

no, you were wrong.

the only thing that changed is that the coach was finally forced to play the guys who deserved it (like Rielly) over the guys who weren't earning it (Murphy, Hamilton), because his team was down 2-0 and 3-1.

the only thing that changed was that the coach played him - which is exactly the legitimate reason you were given for his game 1 performance.

legitimate reason, no excuse.

you were wrong.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I said the same thing (but before you) Interactif!

I know people will laugh but I sent him a tweet yesterday, won't say what it was, and not that it made a difference. But basically it was you have elite ability, let the game come to you, and believe.

Morgan has elite ice vision and instincts, it was only a matter of time he showed it, if he believed in himself.

Monkey is off the back, and he should be the leading offensive D man out there, not Hamilton, Harrington, or Murphy. Now the Cdn Coaches know.

 

[zeke]

Liking this Ouellet Rielly pair. After the slovakia game Murphy shouldnt be playing much. Wheres all this great offense hes supposed to provide when he cant put up points on Germany and SLovakia? And I definitely dont want him out there with Yakupov, Grigorenko or Galchenyuk flying down the wing on him

based both on season, pre-tourney, and in-tourney play, the Rielly-Ouellet pairing really should be considered our #1 pair.

the fact that caoch was playing them as the 3rd pair is just stupid.

I understand that he played them behind harrington-hamilton to start, even though they weren't necessarily playing better, but playing them behind Murphy-wotherspoon/reinhart was just silly.

 

[Bomber0104]

I know people will laugh but I sent him a tweet yesterday, won't say what it was, and not that it made a difference. But basically it was you have elite ability, let the game come to you, and believe.

Morgan has elite ice vision and instincts, it was only a matter of time he showed it, if he believed in himself.

Monkey is off the back, and he should be the leading offensive D man out there, not Hamilton, Harrington, or Murphy. Now the Cdn Coaches know.

I think he looks fantastic with Oullete, what do you think?

 

[Badger Mayhew*]

I know people will laugh but I sent him a tweet yesterday, won't say what it was, and not that it made a difference. But basically it was you have elite ability, let the game come to you, and believe.

Good thing we have you looking out for our prospects Interactif, what would Team Canada do without you?

 

[zeke]

the other argument is that steve spott and the team canada brass finally caught onto something that we, posters on a message board, knew all along. that doesn't make much sense.

my only point is that rielly proved that the excuses from fans were just that....excuses. he's responsible for his play, and he gets full credit for this.

he's responsible for his play, he's not responsible for coaching decisions.

spott knew it all along, which is why he pencilled in Rielly on his top pairing to start the pre-tourney games, and why he went back to Rielly the first time his team was in trouble in the tourney.

the fact that he panicked a bit to start the tourney and reflexively decided to lean on his vets in game 1 instead of the rooks doesn't mean much in the end.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

the other argument is that steve spott and the team canada brass finally caught onto something that we, posters on a message board, knew all along. that doesn't make much sense.

my only point is that rielly proved that the excuses from fans were just that....excuses. he's responsible for his play, and he gets full credit for this.

I can think of a lot of examples where coaches stupidly stick to something that obviously doesn't work when the solutions are square in front of their faces.

There was a saying in science (can't remember it exactly) but it applies equally to coaching. It had to do with how how greatness was being able to suspend disbelief at critical moments when that which you have held true for so long shows otherwise.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

I said the same thing (but before you) Interactif!

Stuttering has next to nothing to do with nerves, for what it's worth (erego your "rightness" would be highly debatable).

Stuttering oddly enough has to do with a delay in reception in the brain--all of us constantly adjust our speech to the speed of our own voice, and in stutterers this reception is only a fraction of a second off. By hearing your own voice repeated a fraction of a second after the fact the delay is corrected. There is an implant that eliminates stuttering almost immediately and the echo is unnoticeable after a short adjustment period.

 

[Bomber0104]

Stuttering has next to nothing to do with nerves, for what it's worth.

Yes it does.

That's not the point here.

I'm saying that he seems like a nervous kind of guy. Nerves subside though and that's what I think is happening here.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Yes it does.

That's not the point here.

I'm saying that he seems like a nervous kind of guy. Nerves subside though and that's what I think is happening here.

They have devices they can implant that almost immediately turn the worst stutterers into perfectly normal speaking people.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Good thing we have you looking out for our prospects Interactif, what would Team Canada do without you?

I have had tweets favourited by players people talk about around here.

 

[Stephen]

not at all, full credit to rielly for turning things around. he's proven all you excuse-makers people wrong.

you'll probably say this means nothing, that wjc performance is irrelevant. you've already said it. it doesn't guarantee anything, but its not meaningless.

lets hope he keeps it going, and lets hope people can finally stop making up excuses if things don't go as we hope.

There's no excuses being made, and in the end, the tournament still means nothing even if he comes out with 20 points, just like it didn't matter that Luke Schenn was crowned the heir to Scott Stevens back in 2008.

It is nice to see the vultures circle a little wider today though.

 

[Bomber0104]

They have devices they can implant that almost immediately turn the worst stutterers into perfectly normal speaking people.

And this has what to do with nervousness, anxiety, and stress triggering outbursts?

I'm just saying that during his interviews you can tell when he's chilled and when he's nervous because he has trouble finding his words and during the draft interviews he was really having trouble.

But anyway, that is not even close to the point here.

My point was that his nerves seem to be subsiding, he's more comfortable out there, and has been improving each game for Canada. I expect even more improvement or at least steady output.

I'm not expecting 3 points a game because theres stiff competition coming up, but if he plays like THAT against RUssia and USA, you're excited as a Leafs fan.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

And this has what to do with nervousness, anxiety, and stress triggering outbursts?

I think you just answered your own question.....it has little to do with nerves.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

One thing I notice about Morgan in the second period, you can see he wanted the puck when Team Canada was down, he wanted to make a difference.

Players playing at big moments of the game, Leafs fans can be rest assured Morgan is going to show up when games are important. Something the parent club has a mass shortage of.

 

[Bomber0104]

I think you just answered your own question.....it has little to do with nerves.

Actually it does...a lot...he's worked on it a lot from what I hear...but knowing people who do have them and actually knowing the information, people relapse when stressed.

I would assume being interviewed on tv in front of millions of people after being drafted is stressful.

Again, no idea why youre being so defensive here. It's a pretty common thing to be nervous (more uncommon to be super confident) and like I said, it's pretty obvious he is getting more comfortable on the ice.

 

[pooleboy]

If you think MR is nervous in interviews watch schiflie he says "you know" at least 20 times each interview

 

[paulhiggins]

There's no excuses being made, and in the end, the tournament still means nothing even if he comes out with 20 points, just like it didn't matter that Luke Schenn was crowned the heir to Scott Stevens back in 2008.

Ron Wilson would have turned a Scott Stevens into an Aki Berg!

 

[Bomber0104]

If you think MR is nervous in interviews watch schiflie he says "you know" at least 20 times each interview

Probably is nervous too. I'd be.

Not that he has to worry about adjusting much when he's older than Morgan, and playing with 2 godly prospects.

Morgan has been shuffled around.

 

[Bomber0104]

One thing I notice about Morgan in the second period, you can see he wanted the puck when Team Canada was down, he wanted to make a difference.

Players playing at big moments of the game, Leafs fans can be rest assured Morgan is going to show up when games are important. Something the parent club has a mass shortage of.

Agree 100% and I attribute that to him being more confident and not fearing making a bad play or move.

Something no other defenceman did successfully this morning.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Can really see Rielly step up and be more prominent with Hamilton out. No comparison Rielly creates more offence than Dougie. Spott if he is smart, and I believe he is, will notice this as the tournament moves fwd. Ferraro did with his TSN commentary.

 

[pooleboy]

Probably is nervous too. I'd be.

Not that he has to worry about adjusting much when he's older than Morgan, and playing with 2 godly prospects.

Morgan has been shuffled around.

How does that have anything to do with being nervous? There all nervous on camera so would anyone on this whole forum. So he stutters? So does everyone, and when you have a camera on u it makes things that much worse. Not everyone can be scott hartnell and just love the camera, rielly is however very good at interviews. The only one who doesn't look nervous on the camera is huberduea and RNH both in either the nhl or there 2nd tourny where they were expected to be the best player, and I'd say huberdeau stutters sometimes too.

Funny how he puts up 3 points and people are complaining about him being nervous rielly is a very good Dman, and I said on the wjc canada roster before the tourny that hamilton (at the time was with rielly) that hamilton was playing with the best D on the team. Last game was just his coming out party, its scary to think he hasn't even played at his best yet