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Rielly ranked #1 of 2012 draft class in TSN (Craig Button) Top 30 NHL Prospects

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Gatorade said:
Reilly has to be much better. It's not the coach or Hamilton or Murphy.

Reading this thread has been a confirmation. As Leaf fans we now hate Canadian players- on the National team - Dougie Hamilton, Ryan Murphy and Steve Spott, all because the Leafs drafted Morgan Rielly and traded for Kessel. It's a joke how it comes across.

This is Canada and reading all the fans hating Canadian players is just mind boggling.
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nothin wrong with reilly ....except now spott has to figure out what to do with the other 3 d men who cost the team goals .....good coaches adjust and just as everyone in hockey believe ;s reilly will be a player of consequence in this tourney ....
just a quick bit of INFO ....hes playin a bit hurt ,only reason why he didnt get much ice at 6-1 ......he ll play /////nobody hates canadian players ,just jealous fans that cant believe the leafs have an true star in the making ......well dont forget jake gardiner ,the best defenceman in the AHL ........
 
Anyways, as for the actual game, I was really happy with what I saw out of Rielly through most of the game. There was that one defensive lapse off the faceoff later in the game, but he exhibited solid offensive instincts.

As much as the announcers were placing laurels all over the Nuge for his incredible ability to remain calm and poised under pressure, I felt the same behaviour out of Rielly, with one distiction. I really like that Rielly tends to be mobile with the puck as compared to RNH who almost always comes to a standstill before making a pass.

Does anyone else find that weird?
 
Okay then. Let's try this again. No going for a poster. No belittling a fan base, or you will get an infraction and threadban. No conspiracy and bringing things from other boards.
 
Frankie said:
you have to figure there's a reason he isn't getting much ice time, don't you?

i'm not a big fan of the coach, but i don't think he'd be coaching the team if he was a complete idiot. surely there are enough smart people involved with this team that they wouldn't leave a dominant player on the bench.
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Wow, are we really bashing an 18 year old kid after 1 WJ game? Do we need to compile a list of WJ heroes that have done diddly in the NHL? Who cares...the kid looked fine and has been great this season in junior. How about we let him develop a little before we write him off.
 
Dreakmur said:
I know a few players who have been through the Kitchener program, and he definately is a complete idiot.

When a coach doesn't trust you, he doesn't play you. It's that simple.
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as i've said, i'm not a fan of spott, judging from what i've seen so far, and from watching his interviews. he's not overly impressive.

but, for someone who is supposed to be a complete idiot, he's certainly had a great deal of success, and has obviously been rising up the coaching ranks. that doesn't add up.
 
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Liferleafer said:
Wow, are we really bashing an 18 year old kid after 1 WJ game? Do we need to compile a list of WJ heroes that have done diddly in the NHL? Who cares...the kid looked fine and has been great this season in junior. How about we let him develop a little before we write him off.
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i asked a question, didn't bash anyone.

the old excuse, "he didn't do anything because he wasn't given enough ice time", simply doesn't fly. there's a reason players don't get much ice time.

yes, everyone knows that playing great at the wjc doesn't mean you'll be a future nhl star. and everyone knows that not playing well at the wjc doesn't mean you have no nhl future.

yet, scouts flock to the tournament every year, and as fans, we pay close attention to the nhl prospects and analyze their every move. lets not pretend its meaningless.
 
how are people critizing rielly? when he was on the ice the canadians were in the other end like 85% of the time, his PP unit looked way better than Murphy's. I think Murphy is a good player, but since i compare him to Rielly i see a lot of his mastakes and it makes me angry but he is still a very good player. For people who havn't seen rielly in MJ he is a offensive juggernaut and then he gets back into position, in this tournament so far it looks like Spott has told him to hang back more and not join the rush, not sure why but he hasn't looked the same as he does in MJ. however you can see his speed and agility his passes are so quick and tape to tape everytime. Rielly is a stud, he will have a coming out party soon enough
 
I think Rielly has played just fine this WJC so far, pre tournament included. He has shown he can adapt to different playing styles. Team Canada has a cornucopia of talent up front, they simply don't D to lead the rush. Its more important for Canada to have a steadying presence on the back end and if Rielly can fulfill that, it works for me.
 
One big game from Rielly and we will fondly remember the Subway series when he was the best Canuck on the ice, people always remember recency as opposed to not too long ago recency. Morgan has demonstrated elite ability, it's up to him to show it and make a difference.
 
Frankie said:
i asked a question, didn't bash anyone.

the old excuse, "he didn't do anything because he wasn't given enough ice time", simply doesn't fly. there's a reason players don't get much ice time.

yes, everyone knows that playing great at the wjc doesn't mean you'll be a future nhl star. and everyone knows that not playing well at the wjc doesn't mean you have no nhl future.

yet, scouts flock to the tournament every year, and as fans, we pay close attention to the nhl prospects and analyze their every move. lets not pretend its meaningless.
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My apologies, wasn't speaking directly to your post. I read a bunch and a lot of people were bashing. It was just an overview of the last few pages. I'll agree that Reilly hasn't "stood out", but IMO, the whole defense looks suspect.
 
Liferleafer said:
My apologies, wasn't speaking directly to your post. I read a bunch and a lot of people were bashing. It was just an overview of the last few pages. I'll agree that Reilly hasn't "stood out", but IMO, the whole defense looks suspect.
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reilly has a naggin injury .....4 d man ahead of him in ice time look suspect ..remember it wasnt the toronto media that annointed him it was craig button and 30 scouts he polls
blame the scouts .....u win 9-3 and u rest alot of peeps .....my guess ,once canada gets behind a goal u will see hamilton and reilly tons ,spott aint dumb
 
It would be annoying if Rielly got caught in an ice time crunch based on one poor pre-tourney game, but it wouldn't be too shocking to see the youngest dman get a bit of the shaft in that regard.

but hopefully coach gives him another chance at an expanded role, because I have no doubt he'd take it and run with it.
 
It was Germany; the perfect time to experiment and shelter yourself. There is no reason to read too much into the performance of any player.

Reilly looked fine; I don't see why anyone would single him out for anything negative.
 
BayStBullies said:
Reilly looked fine; I don't see why anyone would single him out for anything negative.
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i don't think anyone is singling him out because he's done anything terribly negative. he's the leafs' top prospect, and this is a leafs board. that's why he's being singled out here.
 
Dreakmur said:
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I know a few players who have been through the Kitchener program, and he definately is a complete idiot.

When a coach doesn't trust you, he doesn't play you. It's that simple.
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Would these be players who fail to have a worthy career and find it easier to blame the coach than their own shortcomings?
 
Rielly should be paired with Harrington, someone to steady the D side. Then have Oullett with Hamilton as they both play two-way games.

Murphy should get Ellis treatment, like 16 year old Ellis treatment. Sit his ass on the *** bench unless we're on the power play or up a bunch.


Also, Hamilton isn't that good people, I'm not hating on him because he's a Bruin, I've watched him numerous times live in St Kitts playing for the Ice Dogs. I've never come away from the game being impressed. He's never even been the best d on his team in my experience, last year it was either Oleksiak or Graham(whoever picked him has a gem).

But hey, I'm not a scout, and players have off games. I always thought Agozino looked like a better player/prospect than Strome.
 
Funk Volume said:
Also, Hamilton isn't that good people, I'm not hating on him because he's a Bruin, I've watched him numerous times live in St Kitts playing for the Ice Dogs. I've never come away from the game being impressed. He's never even been the best d on his team in my experience, last year it was either Oleksiak or Graham(whoever picked him has a gem).

But hey, I'm not a scout, and players have off games. I always thought Agozino looked like a better player/prospect than Strome.
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I remember last season in the OHL finals with him playing against the Knights. With the hype he was getting, I was expecting a lot more. He was good, but nowhere near his hype. I find it's easy to say he sucks because he doesn't play up to the hype but taking a step back you do still see a good player. Him being in the NHL if there was a season this year, I'm not so sure about that. Even next season to make it I think he will need to improve still. I think he is not by any means a sure thing NHLer at this point.
 
He's looked good enough so far, but not better than most of Team Canada.

I guess we have about a dozen future Bobby Orr's, Mario Lemieux's, Brian Leetch's, and Mike Bossey's on Team Canada.
 
Funk Volume said:
Rielly should be paired with Harrington, someone to steady the D side. Then have Oullett with Hamilton as they both play two-way games.

Murphy should get Ellis treatment, like 16 year old Ellis treatment. Sit his ass on the *** bench unless we're on the power play or up a bunch.


Also, Hamilton isn't that good people, I'm not hating on him because he's a Bruin, I've watched him numerous times live in St Kitts playing for the Ice Dogs. I've never come away from the game being impressed. He's never even been the best d on his team in my experience, last year it was either Oleksiak or Graham(whoever picked him has a gem).

But hey, I'm not a scout, and players have off games. I always thought Agozino looked like a better player/prospect than Strome.
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I believe the coach wants Harrington's pairington to be on the ice the most.

So taking handedness and talent into account I think using Hamilton there is a pretty good move.

Basically from what I'm reading you want the whole team Canada defence to revolve around what might benefit Morgan Rielly and not the team.
 
Grant said:
I remember last season in the OHL finals with him playing against the Knights. With the hype he was getting, I was expecting a lot more. He was good, but nowhere near his hype. I find it's easy to say he sucks because he doesn't play up to the hype but taking a step back you do still see a good player. Him being in the NHL if there was a season this year, I'm not so sure about that. Even next season to make it I think he will need to improve still. I think he is not by any means a sure thing NHLer at this point.
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It's really a shame. The media is certainly not doing him any favors by raising him on a pedestal. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that Dougie wished the media would get off his jockstrap and just let him play.

He has good offensive instincts, so in absolute worst case, he could end up as a Franson type player, but slightly faster. I think it very unlikely that he'll turn out to be as good offensively, or defensively as Phaneuf, who a lot of fans around here wouldn't even consider a #1D, nevermind a franchise defenseman.

Just stop hyping the kid, and let him play.
 
Rielly is a bust based simply on the fact he's a leaf. We don't turn up elite talent except rask and seguin
 
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