Rick Nash.....1 goal in 20 NYR playoff games

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

You are being too harsh on Nash man. His defense has improved

I mean....when you typed this, were you actually aware of the monumental excuse you are making?

 

[Blueshirt Special]

A note to the mods:

If Rick Nash does meet his career high for goals (1) for a playoff season tonight, please be prepared for the server load on this thread. Not only will Crave Media's network integrity be taxed, but also the very fabric of logic may be torn to such degree that life as we know shall cease to exist.

New fiber optic feeder being terminated as we speek to handle the additional bandwidth required. Backup servers being deployed. And Neil deGrasse Tyson is working on the logic issue, but he has seen some of HFNYR says he can only do so much.

 

[Tawnos]

All players are going to have good and bad playoff seasons.

The major issue is that Nash has yet to have a good one. His sample size is smaller than others, so theres still time, but man, his type of game sure doesnt seem to mesh when time and space are at a premium.

Yeah, I was just making the point that these things can change in a hurry. I don't think anyone would have referred to Gaborik as a good playoff performer when he was with the Rangers, even if some forgive him somewhat for his shoulder injury in 2012. (Ironically, his two of his three "bad" seasons were all with the Rangers, and his 3 good seasons have all been somewhere else. Common denominator?)

I remember when Steve Yzerman was considered a poor playoff performer, and that was when he was ever so slightly under a point per game in the playoffs. Perception isn't always right with these things.

 

[EspenK]

Surprised to see he is one for 20 for the Rangers. He had a 25% rate in all the playoff series he led the Jackets to.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Surprised to see he is one for 20 for the Rangers. He had a 25% rate in all the playoff series he led the Jackets to.

Exactly!

If the Rangers can go 5 or 6 rounds into July this year, Nash will easily have 3-4 goals.

You heard it first!

Book it so the naysayers will have something to refer to!

 

[Section 409]

try not to tell that to the 400 or so haters in this thread. i agree with everything you just said.

Everyone except for Nash should be responsible for finishing their chances. Got it.

 

[KingWantsCup]

Gaborik has had as many bad playoffs, numbers-wise, as Nash has.

Not with us at least, and that's all that really matters.

 

[Tawnos]

Not with us at least, and that's all that really matters.

Gaborik's had as many bad playoffs with us as Nash has.

 

[Inferno]

I think the quotes there, without an context at all, are really unfair. but feel free to nitpick them all you want.

Nash has generated countless scoring chances. Nobody wants to admit it. He's also hit what...2 posts? he could EASILY be a PPG player right now.

and yes, he was brought in to score goals. Its not going in for him. when has anyone here not admitted that?

but theres a big difference between playing like crap, and not producing.

i certainly agree that he's not producing goals/points. he's most certainly not playing like crap.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Rick Nash.....1st in total shots!

Mods. When you lock this thread, would you at least let it runs it's course until it reaches it's proper burial in the doldrums of this site?


Welcome to the Rick Nash counterpoint thread. This is a thread for like-minded thinkers to avoid being harassed by "box score only fans" who focus on goals.

Here we will be free to discuss Rick Nash is a less hostile environment.

Good starting points would be :

What is up with Stepan missing prime passes?

He is on the ice and maintaining a BP of 120/80 as well as a body temperature of ~98.6 degrees F.

Crosby is nonexistent too!

 

[JohnC]

Leading off with "when you lock this thread" probably wasn't the best way to get your point across

 

[broadwayblue]

Just put one in the net. That's all I ask.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Leading off with "when you lock this thread" probably wasn't the best way to get your point across

I figured letting the thread slowly wilt into nothing would buy me a few minutes. I'm just trying to be realistic.

 

[Section 409]

I think the quotes there, without an context at all, are really unfair. but feel free to nitpick them all you want.

Nash has generated countless scoring chances. Nobody wants to admit it. He's also hit what...2 posts? he could EASILY be a PPG player right now.

and yes, he was brought in to score goals. Its not going in for him. when has anyone here not admitted that?

but theres a big difference between playing like crap, and not producing.

i certainly agree that he's not producing goals/points. he's most certainly not playing like crap.

It's not nitpicking, you said it.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Mods. When you lock this thread, would you at least let it runs it's course until it reaches it's proper burial in the doldrums of this site?


Welcome to the Rick Nash counterpoint thread. This is a thread for like-minded thinkers to avoid being harassed by "box score only fans" who focus on goals.

Here we will be free to discuss Rick Nash is a less hostile environment.

Good starting points would be :

What is up with Stepan missing prime passes?

He is on the ice and maintaining a BP of 120/80 as well as a body temperature of ~98.6 degrees F.

Crosby is nonexistent too!

To whoever did this merger, thank you. It's more than I expected!

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Did Nash get 40 or 50 assists?

Last I checked, he didn't even get 40 points...

Last I checked, he has a whopping 4 assists in 8 playoff games...

You saying his production doesn't matter over and over is comical, because he does the "little" things right. Guess what, we can get a player at one forth the salary who can produce the same way and bring all of the little things. And since that is the case, why are we paying Nash $7.8M?

Oh, and Gaborik is showing Nash what it is to do well in the post season. Every Ranger fan on here thought Gaborik was finished, and he has thrived since going to LA.

Did you read the posts before mine? Someone else said if Nash had 40 or 50 assists, that it wouldn't matter because he is paid to score goals. I never said he had 40 or 50 assists. And I'm not saying his production doesn't matter - in fact, I said that I agree that he needs to score goals. I'm just saying that the mere fact that he hasn't scored doesn't mean he isn't playing well.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

This x1000. I don't know how people just don't understand this. No one is saying he's been putrid. But, he hasn't been good enough. Nothing he is doing nullifies the fact that he isn't producing. At $7.8M you need to do a lot more, you're getting paid for results. There are plenty of much cheaper options out there that provide the same thing (mostly role 3rd liners).

Actually, there are several posters that have said he's been putrid, that he's floating, and playing a perimeter game. I agree that he needs to score, but his lack of goals is not for lack of effort this postseason.

 

[Callagraves]

:::pushes up glasses:::

I was hating on Rick Nash before it was cool, guys.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

And now, the "Nash has to score goals or he's useless" crowd has nothing to say but feeble attempts at mocking the posters who actually watch the games and can see that Nash is playing well.

Again - I personally have never said that it's okay for Nash to just play well and not score. He needs to score goals. But the frustration with his lack of goal scoring that some posters are feeling is making them say things like "he's a perimeter player" and "he's floating" and what not. Nash has been that for long stretches this season. But in the playoffs, he's creating chances, he's driven to the net, he's thrown hits, he's taken quality shots on goal, he's been in the corners. His play has been very good, and if that's not enough for you, that's fine. The lack of goals is extremely frustrating and he needs to finish. But my point is that he is playing well, and if he keeps playing like this, he will score. The odds are some of these chances will go in the net.

 

[Section 409]

And now, the "Nash has to score goals or he's useless" crowd has nothing to say but feeble attempts at mocking the posters who actually watch the games and can see that Nash is playing well.

Again - I personally have never said that it's okay for Nash to just play well and not score. He needs to score goals. But the frustration with his lack of goal scoring that some posters are feeling is making them say things like "he's a perimeter player" and "he's floating" and what not. Nash has been that for long stretches this season. But in the playoffs, he's creating chances, he's driven to the net, he's thrown hits, he's taken quality shots on goal, he's been in the corners. His play has been very good, and if that's not enough for you, that's fine. The lack of goals is extremely frustrating and he needs to finish. But my point is that he is playing well, and if he keeps playing like this, he will score. The odds are some of these chances will go in the net.

One goal in twenty games. That would be a four goal season, we are really polishing a turd here now.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

And now, the "Nash has to score goals or he's useless" crowd has nothing to say but feeble attempts at mocking the posters who actually watch the games and can see that Nash is playing well.

Again - I personally have never said that it's okay for Nash to just play well and not score. He needs to score goals. But the frustration with his lack of goal scoring that some posters are feeling is making them say things like "he's a perimeter player" and "he's floating" and what not. Nash has been that for long stretches this season. But in the playoffs, he's creating chances, he's driven to the net, he's thrown hits, he's taken quality shots on goal, he's been in the corners. His play has been very good, and if that's not enough for you, that's fine. The lack of goals is extremely frustrating and he needs to finish. But my point is that he is playing well, and if he keeps playing like this, he will score. The odds are some of these chances will go in the net.

Some posters buried in this thread did go to extremes with Nash, but instead of arguing with those few responses, you argue with posts that have legitimate concerns.

If you post those specific posts, and those posts are anywhere remotely close to what you say they said, I will gladly agree with your response to them.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

And now, the "Nash has to score goals or he's useless" crowd has nothing to say but feeble attempts at mocking the posters who actually watch the games and can see that Nash is playing well.

Again - I personally have never said that it's okay for Nash to just play well and not score. He needs to score goals. But the frustration with his lack of goal scoring that some posters are feeling is making them say things like "he's a perimeter player" and "he's floating" and what not. Nash has been that for long stretches this season. But in the playoffs, he's creating chances, he's driven to the net, he's thrown hits, he's taken quality shots on goal, he's been in the corners. His play has been very good, and if that's not enough for you, that's fine. The lack of goals is extremely frustrating and he needs to finish. But my point is that he is playing well, and if he keeps playing like this, he will score. The odds are some of these chances will go in the net.

Nash has been inconsistent. Hes had a few solid games and a few invisible games (namely game 6 for Philly and game 1 vs. Pitt). So lets not act like hes been this force every single game - its simply untrue.

Its really gotten to the point where hes getting credit for things that any run of the mill NHL player should be doing. Thats all just a red herring to counter the fact that Rick Nash is a goal scorer that doesn't have a single goal yet.

 

[we want cup]

If Nash was Russian this would be such a different thread.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

One goal in twenty games. That would be a four goal season, we are really polishing a turd here now.

Zuccarelo has 2 assist thus far, and he's only 5-7. Lundqvist has 6" on the guy not to mention his albatross of a contract next season, and he has a goose-egg in that department.

This guy couldn't set up The Great One! /smh

 

[Matt Rentfree]

And now, the "Nash has to score goals or he's useless" crowd has nothing to say but feeble attempts at mocking the posters who actually watch the games and can see that Nash is playing well.

Again - I personally have never said that it's okay for Nash to just play well and not score. He needs to score goals. But the frustration with his lack of goal scoring that some posters are feeling is making them say things like "he's a perimeter player" and "he's floating" and what not. Nash has been that for long stretches this season. But in the playoffs, he's creating chances,]he's driven to the net, he's thrown hits, he's taken quality shots on goal, he's been in the corners. His play has been very good, and if that's not enough for you, that's fine. The lack of goals is extremely frustrating and he needs to finish. But my point is that he is playing well, and if he keeps playing like this, he will score. The odds are some of these chances will go in the net.

You mean all the stuff that Dubinsky did for 3.4M less of a cap hit?