Nash needs to step-up on the scoresheet in the "g" column. Now. Period. He is not bring paid $7,8 M for puck possession or fancy play. We gave up tons to get him in addition. Anyone here defending this mans contribution are either blind or organization shills. If he plays up to his potential (which we have seen) we should be fine losing a first rounder...
5 goals in 20 games in 11-12. One in Triple OT.
Vs.
1 goal in 20 games over two post seasons. None significant.
What looks significantly better than the other?
Oh, and it's also interesting to note that Gaborik did it with a torn labrum while Nash admitted he was at 100% last year.
Even if we don't rewrite history, it's Gaborik, and by a landslide.
Gaborik was a much better Ranger. Gaborik is also a much better playoff performer right now. You can say all you want, that Nash brings it, but Gaborik has 21g in 61 playoff games and Rick Nash has 2g in 24 playoff games.
I know you said his stat line is better than Nash's, but my point was to clarify that their playoff careers haven't even been remotely close. Nash's playoff resume, in terms of production, struggles to keep pace with most 3rd/4th liners. In fact, we have a handful of 4th liners with better playoff resumes; Moore, Carcillo, Boyle, etc.
When a Pouliot, a supposedly dead and revived Richards, a 38 year-old St. Louis, a headless Hagelin, and a pocket sized Zuccarello have either more points or more goals, you have to start capitalizing. None of this "the little things" ********. MSL and Zucs can get away with that **** (Tenacious forechecks, monstrous hitting, and solid scoring chances) but not someone who should be our #1 contributor. How the **** he isn't using his big ass and his big frame to ease into the offensive zone or control the puck is beyond me.
A 42 year-old Jagr can do it but not Nash?!
Their regular season careers haven't been remotely close either. I remember when we first traded Gaborik/got Nash everyone was saying how much better Nash was and that he would blossom here etc..(and Nash was great his first year) and I completely disagreed. Throughout their careers Gaborik has always been the superior player with the drawback being how injury prone he is. That's not to say Nash isn't also an excellent player though. Gabby is perennially underrated. Post lockout from 2005 to 2012 he 228 goals and 439 points in 427 games. That's super elite production.
You know, I actually watched the LA game, but any armchair GM could over-analyze Gaborik's contribution to that game.
For instance, one might say that Gaborik "contributed" or "fulfilled his role" by not only scoring in the last seconds of the 3rd period to send the game to OT, but also being "clutch" and "winning" the game in OT.
For those of you who actually watched the game, did Gaborik provide the intangibles that Nash has been providing?
Gaborik for lack of a better term has been garbage but since he finds a way to put the puck in the net, that's what you pay him for. If they define his success by goals, he is delivering but he is definitely not playing like a superstar.
Wonderful, as I expected I see the obligatory Gaborik > Nash posts
Just ridiculous
If you had the choice between Gaborik's 8 points in 8 games, including a last second game tying goal and an OT game winner without doing much else or Nash's 4 assists (0 in his last 5) coupled with maybe two games where he made an impact with physical play and defense, which would you take? Seems pretty obvious to me.
Wonderful, as I expected I see the obligatory Gaborik > Nash posts
Just ridiculous
True but this has been an ongoing probelm for Nash goign back to last year. i understand he cant score every game but i think in his entire playoff career he has 2 goals in like 25 gamesCrosby hasn't scored either. The pucks not bouncing right for them. The hope is that they find their stride before their team gets kicked out.
What's so ridiculous about it? He's a better playoff performer and goal scorer. What has Nash done in the playoffs?
What's so ridiculous about it? He's a better playoff performer and goal scorer. What has Nash done in the playoffs?
You are being too harsh on Nash man. His defense has improved
Gaborik has had as many bad playoffs, numbers-wise, as Nash has.