Rick Nash.....1 goal in 20 NYR playoff games

[ReggieDunlop68]

There is a lot more than scoring goals, but at the end of the day, what is the direct result of winning a game? Scoring goals.

All of the little plays add up, and players score goals off of good shifts, momentum swings, etc, but at the end of the day that puck has to cross the red line.

Nash was acquired by the New York Rangers to do that. To get that puck over the red line. The fact that he has done that just once in his 20 post season games with the Rangers, and fans are still defending him (yet criticizing Richards a multitude of times in every GDT) is absolute non-sense.

He needs to do more than have a great shift once or twice a game. Secondly, I didn't even think he was noticeable in that game outside of two plays he set up.

All the matters at the end of the day is what's on the scoreboard, and Nash better start contributing to what's on the scoreboard if they want to beat a better team in the Penguins.

I'd much rather have Nash put up a 2-3 goal game where he doesn't look particularly sharp, than him get a multitude of chances and not finish on a single one of them.

Results, results, results. I don't get how people don't understand this. Sports, like most industries, is results driven.

We win that first round in less than seven if Nash can score a couple of goals. We win that last game before OT if Nash can score a goal. He can be making his life, and the life of everyone on the team a lot easier by doing this.

His effort is wildly inconsistent too. He's either going HAM a couple minutes at a time, or just coasting throughout the game.

Nash hasn't been bad in the post season. But he can be A LOT better. A LOT BETTER.

Although I completely agree with you, some of Nash's defendants may find the bolded out of line.

A few things should be noted judge the severity of your claim. I will paraphrase a few of the key points, so you can re-think your honest appraisal for its globalized appraisal of Rick Nash's performance in the playoffs.

Rick Nash was noticeable in game 7.

It is also clear to me, although I may only be "checking the box score" that Rick Nash has indeed been on the ice and he is also skating too.

He has finished several checks.

He not only sometimes looked "engaged," but there may be a possibility that he actually cares about what he's doing for a few shifts.

 

[jniklast]

If playing "well" means playing better than the average player, then I agree that Nash has been playing well. Like many have said, he was mostly engaged, hitting, defensively responsible and he even made a couple of nice passes.

If we are going by the standards of what he is able to do, what he is paid for and what his role was supposed to be when we acquired him, I cannot agree that he has been playing well. He is lacking consistency in his effort, he is not playing as good as he can and most importantly (and what this thread is about) he has not scored a goal.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Stop wasting your time, you see what you want to see and in this case a lot of people only see what happens in the offensive zone and I guess on the perimeter, because I agree with you, but really it's a losing battle.

Nash has been huge on the backend.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Hopefully this will be the brain hammer

The score board is what matters at the end of the 60 minutes. You would be kidding yourself if you think it's not important. Not the box score in particular, but at the end of the day, the team with more goals in the net wins.

So, yes, what the scoreboard shows is very important. And Nash needs to start contributing to the score on that scoreboard, DIRECTLY. HE NEEDS to score, not get a secondary assist.

Lamentations of the Archosaur [52:13]

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Lamentations of the Archosaur [52:13]

LOL'ed.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

A final word from another "decent" player

I knew at a young age, whether I was playing baseball or hockey or lacrosse, that my teammates were counting on me, whether it be to strike the last batter out in a baseball game or score a big goal in a hockey game.

-Wayne Gretzky

 

[Blueshirt Special]

I'm laying off the Nash-Bash for now.

I felt he has been trying and I'm hopeful he will figure it out.

Playoff hockey really is a different game.

Onward

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Tomorrow, this thread title will be changed to "Rick Nash.....2 goals in 21 NYR playoff games".

Book it.

 

[trilobyte]

Booked a few of those already, but Nash cancelled.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Tomorrow, this thread title will be changed to "Rick Nash.....2 goals in 21 NYR playoff games".

Book it.

I really hope he does. We need him.

Booked a few of those already, but Nash cancelled.

Boy are you going to feel like a goon when he surpasses Carcillio's goal total!

The logic of any worry "the fans" had prior to his first goal will surely be exposed for the farces they are. When he scores prepare your burn suit.

 

[smoneil]

I think he played really well last night, and set up our 2 best scoring chances that didnt go in the net. Stepan and MSL should have each had a goal.

If Nash had those 2 assists off of those feeds, would ppl still be complaining? Probably.

Points don't matter with Nash. Goals matter. He's not brought in here to score 40 or 50 assists. He's bought in here to score goals.

Carcillo, among others, has more goals than Rick Nash in a WHOLE HELL of a lot less playing time. Nash's job security is getting more tenuous by the day.

Again, i like Nash a LOT...but hes not a guy who can single handedly win you a game out there...hes more of a piece to the puzzle. Rangers have several pieces to the puzzle....Hagelin is a piece, Stepan is a piece, etc. I personally think they lack that 1 more gun..that 1 guy who can put you over. That guy who you can say something like...well hell, even if we shut down MSL and Richards we still have to deal with....

Watch Nash. Where do you see him most often? Behind the net? On the side boards? NEVER see him take the puck to the net. NEVER see him as a net presence. He's almost forgotten that most goals in the NHL are scored from 3 ft and in from the crease. 25 foot wristers...that's all he's giving us right now.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

The score board is what matters at the end of the 60 minutes. You would be kidding yourself if you think it's not important. Not the box score in particular, but at the end of the day, the team with more goals in the net wins.

So, yes, what the scoreboard shows is very important. And Nash needs to start contributing to the score on that scoreboard, DIRECTLY. HE NEEDS to score, not get a secondary assist.

When did I say that scoring goals is not important?

YOU are the one say that it is all that matters.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

So now posters are suggesting that if Nash had 40 or 50 assists he still has failed. I swear the hyperbole on this board is nauseating.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Lamentations of the Archosaur [52:13]

Although I disagree with what you have been saying - this is hilarious.

 

[AlternateSideParking]

A dominant Nash could be the difference between early golf and the CF or SCF.

He's played well. But what he's doing isn't enough to overlook or excuse the fact that he isn't scoring.

He hasn't had a lot of open ice to work with, which is common in the playoffs. He's a huge perimeter player, and like Gaborik's tenure here, he's going to have to hang around the net and take a beating in order to bury a couple.

He's definitely trying.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Booked a few of those already, but Nash cancelled.

I usually don't go out on a limb like that, so enjoy it while you can!

 

[KingWantsCup]

So happy we have Nash he's so much better than Gaborik in the playoffs.

#StuffNoOneSays

 

[Riverdale]

So happy we have Nash he's so much better than Gaborik in the playoffs.

#StuffNoOneSays

Gabby. I miss you

 

[mandiblesofdoom]

I wonder if Nash is trying to change his playing style on account of the concussions. If that's the case, it would be difficult to criticize him, even though he's been disappointing.

 

[mike14]

So happy we have Nash he's so much better than Gaborik in the playoffs.

#StuffNoOneSays

In 8 games with LA Gabby has 1 less goal than he did in 25 with the Rangers. Let's not rewrite history to make out he was some kind of playoff monster here (yes, it's still a better stat line then Nash)

 

[Matt4776]

Gabby. I miss you

 

[KingWantsCup]

Straight up this is how I feel right now.

 

[Fataldogg]

So now posters are suggesting that if Nash had 40 or 50 assists he still has failed. I swear the hyperbole on this board is nauseating.

Did Nash get 40 or 50 assists?

Last I checked, he didn't even get 40 points...

Last I checked, he has a whopping 4 assists in 8 playoff games...

You saying his production doesn't matter over and over is comical, because he does the "little" things right. Guess what, we can get a player at one forth the salary who can produce the same way and bring all of the little things. And since that is the case, why are we paying Nash $7.8M?

Oh, and Gaborik is showing Nash what it is to do well in the post season. Every Ranger fan on here thought Gaborik was finished, and he has thrived since going to LA.

 

[Fataldogg]

In 8 games with LA Gabby has 1 less goal than he did in 25 with the Rangers. Let's not rewrite history to make out he was some kind of playoff monster here (yes, it's still a better stat line then Nash)

5 goals in 20 games in 11-12. One in Triple OT.

Vs.

1 goal in 20 games over two post seasons. None significant.

What looks significantly better than the other?

Oh, and it's also interesting to note that Gaborik did it with a torn labrum while Nash admitted he was at 100% last year.

Even if we don't rewrite history, it's Gaborik, and by a landslide.

Gaborik was a much better Ranger. Gaborik is also a much better playoff performer right now. You can say all you want, that Nash brings it, but Gaborik has 21g in 61 playoff games and Rick Nash has 2g in 24 playoff games.

I know you said his stat line is better than Nash's, but my point was to clarify that their playoff careers haven't even been remotely close. Nash's playoff resume, in terms of production, struggles to keep pace with most 3rd/4th liners. In fact, we have a handful of 4th liners with better playoff resumes; Moore, Carcillo, Boyle, etc.

 

[Fataldogg]

A dominant Nash could be the difference between early golf and the CF or SCF.

He's played well. But what he's doing isn't enough to overlook or excuse the fact that he isn't scoring.

He hasn't had a lot of open ice to work with, which is common in the playoffs. He's a huge perimeter player, and like Gaborik's tenure here, he's going to have to hang around the net and take a beating in order to bury a couple.

He's definitely trying.

This x1000. I don't know how people just don't understand this. No one is saying he's been putrid. But, he hasn't been good enough. Nothing he is doing nullifies the fact that he isn't producing. At $7.8M you need to do a lot more, you're getting paid for results. There are plenty of much cheaper options out there that provide the same thing (mostly role 3rd liners).