THANK YOU and where the hell was everyone when I was saying this and trying to move the guy for the past 2.5 yrs?
My hope in bringing in Copp before the deadline was that it would allow us to ditch Strome this summer. Then next year we slide Chytil into that 2C spot with Panarin and Kakko while letting Copp center a really strong 3rd line with Goodrow and Blais. Then eventually Goodrow can slide down to the 4th line and Othmann can step into that 3LW spot. Still hoping it works out that way.
If Chytil can't embrace that spot, Copp is perfectly serviceable as a 2C until we can properly address it and he fits into a 3C role far better than Strome does.
some variation of mostly this^. Chytil, esp w/quality Ws, is part of the solution, not part of the prob
That’s not enough of a sample size. He has played less than one game at center as a Ranger. This is a big decision that they have to make. Can’t just leap into it and throw Strome away.
It is not an easy choice. Strome has his warts but we know what he is. We know he can center a Hart candidate.
It's an easy choice. Strome sucks. Nominally productive net + at best. Does not justify $$ which is now scarce. Give up, let him go.
the bolded above is bullshit....the hart candidate should make the players around him better, we shouldnt need to strome for panarin to put up points.....crosby has played with terrible linemates for years at times
this^
I'm not a Strome hatin' sumbitch like a lot of my fellow fans, but... unless he's a playoff monster this year... gotta go, gotta go.
I kind of wish they had traded him at the Deadline, but I understand how they sort of COULDN'T.
NO, bs, they could have/should have, and done so even before the TD. The prob here is Rangers try to have their cake and eat it too, by hoping to max returns on decent players, but they drive the value down by waiting til the last minute and there is no term as any meat on the bone for a suitor.
Again, bern is right, NYR mgmt here is wrong.
I'm pretty confident one or the other will be a NYR next season. It's both that would make it impossible, unless they jettisoned Nemeth, Blais, and forced Kakko to sign tiny bridge deal or qualifier. And that would look kind of stupid right after dealing Buchnevich since he 'wouldn't fit'
I doubt either can be signed. MAYBE if you don't do 5 McKeggs or so, MAYBE you can scrape up for Capp at a loss of depth. We need to lose all of Strome + Nemeth + Hajek + Geo + recover Hank 1.5 buyout for approx 11m + to offset new Zib + Fox $$ and that is WITHOUT substituting other player salaries for those.
If panarin is that adamant that he plays with Strome then he’s part of the problem
Idk how you can defend the guy, stupid penalties, lack of awareness in the d zone, over passing, the list goes on and on
If panarin wants to play with his buddies so bad he should have thought about that before signing here, he’s an unbelievable player but he needs ti make the players around him better and he does at times. But he’s been a dumpster fire this year at times. Strome has been infinitely worse
Agree
This Panarin/Strome chemistry thing must be more off ice at this point, because I just don’t see it on ice. More often than not it’s just waiting for Panarin to make a brilliant play and Strome is along for the ride. Strome has turned into a glider like he’s a high skill player who can get away with it, but he’s not. He doesn’t move his feet, and that is part of the reason he takes a lot of stick infraction penalties. In fact, the Panarin/Strome partnership seems to be more of a detriment to the team now. Rip the Strome bandaid off and use the cap on someone else like Copp. Panarin will get over it and still love to play hockey…and most importantly, as you’ve mentioned, make whoever is on his line a better player.
They work together and apart but not enough to justify $$ or denying mins to Chytil Krav and previously, Barron
so, the 2 scenarios are similar, difference is we NEED Stromer right now. Might not NEED or WANT 1, and possible BOTH.
NO WE DO NOT
If you believe Edge (I do), the Rangers had interest in Zegras and were actively trying to trade Buch to Edmonton for the 8th overall pick. That deal never materialized, and the rest is history. If we had not won the lottery that year, it's impossible to say what the Rangers would have done. Maybe we don't trade for Trouba and we instead draft Seider. Regardless, Zegras was reportedly high on their list. We know from Edge that players like Glass, Pettersson and Keller were also high on their list in recent years. Glass hasn't worked out, and Keller isn't a center, but the problem isn't from a lack of trying.
We want the team to select BPA and, even though it hasn't worked out that way thus far, the players we took were the consensus BPA at the time. They just happened to be wingers instead of centers.
See above, prob is NYR wants its cake and eat it too, holds on to guys too long, trave value diminished, return is less/draft upgrade situation worsened, self inflicted