Post-Game Talk: Requiem for the 2023 NHL Draft

[TheYardMachine]

Reinbacher is not a sexy pick but i can easily imagine ourselves in 2029 looking back at this pick and being really happy with a big minute munching RHD who should be able to get 40-50 points while being a rock defensively.

Michkov would have been more exciting but its also a possibility that he doesnt ends up the superstar he was tagged for years.

I can understand the disappointment for the fans but i hate to see everyone goes rabid everytime something doesnt go their way. I just feel bad for the kid who was just drafted and seeing all the overly negative comment everywhere. I saw people calling him Bustbacher which is just dumb

 

[Omar]

Hughes said that not seeing Michkov live factored into the decision not to pick him yet he said that he's only seen Reinbacher play through video and not in person.

He also flat out just said that he sees Reinbacher as a #2 dman for a ceiling and not sure that he will run the 1st PP wave in the NHL.

It could have been Bergevin speaking.

 

[larek]

One dysfunctional and hypocritical GM to the next. Bergevin didn't seem to be as nepotistic as Hughes and Gorton; all they do is hire their buddies. Even drafting Xhekaj's brother with a fourth-round pick is absurd. He would have been available in the latter rounds. There is no defending this draft.

I constantly see people clamoring for a superstar, and we had a future one available at #5, which we passed on. I'll always be a Habs fan but my god I wish we had open-minded people leading our team for once. I'll definitely be watching more KHL/CHL in the next few years than Habs games, that's for sure.

I had hugh at about 8 now after the last remarks I have him at 5

 

[ZUKI]

Hughes said that not seeing Michkov live factored into the decision not to pick him yet he said that he's only seen Reinbacher play through video and not in person.

He also flat out just said that he sees Reinbacher as a #2 dman for a ceiling and not sure that he will run the 1st PP wave in the NHL.

Hugues is the GM of Habs, not a scout.
He could have only see by videos, but the scouting staff them saw the dman live, something they couldn't with Michkov.

The Habs scouting team have probably worked 80-90 hours per weeks for a while. I am sure that Evrybody were there last weeks , ( Hughes as well ) so i don't put too much importance to those press conferences. They are extremely tired and are answering live questions in both languages

 

[vokiel]

Just thinking, 3 goalies were BPA where we were picking ?

No those are need picks, shot-gunning for a position.

 

[cave troll]

I'm starting to imagine that in 2 years we'll have some 10 goalies in the preseason camp.

 

[MonkeyBusiness]

Hugues is the GM of Habs, not a scout.
He could have only see by videos, but the scouting staff them saw the dman live, something they couldn't with Michkov.

The Habs scouting team have probably worked 80-90 hours per weeks for a while. I am sure that Evrybody were there last weeks , ( Hughes as well ) so i don't put too much importance to those press conferences. They are extremely tired and are answering live questions in both languages

Well except for Martin Lapointe who cannot speak either French or English fluently and leaves you with more questions than answers whenever he speaks.

 

[Omar]

Reinbacher is not a sexy pick but i can easily imagine ourselves in 2029 looking back at this pick and being really happy with a big minute munching RHD who should be able to get 40-50 points while being a rock defensively.

Michkov would have been more exciting but its also a possibility that he doesnt ends up the superstar he was tagged for years.

I can understand the disappointment for the fans but i hate to see everyone goes rabid everytime something doesnt go their way. I just feel bad for the kid who was just drafted and seeing all the overly negative comment everywhere. I saw people calling him Bustbacher which is just dumb

It’s not about not taking Michkov. It’s about missing an opportunity to draft an elite offensive star in the best draft in 20 years. We unlikely have the chance to do it again because we’ll likely be a tweener team for the next few years and draft too low for it to matter. So if that opportunity is gone, what does this team become? Another playoff bubble team that repeats what we’ve had for the last 30 years. Achieving nothing.

 

[cave troll]

It’s not about not taking Michkov. It’s about missing an opportunity to draft an elite offensive star in the best draft in 20 years. We unlikely have the chance to do it again because we’ll likely be a tweener team for the next few years and draft too low for it to matter. So if that opportunity is gone, what does this team become? Another playoff bubble team that repeats what we’ve had for the last 30 years. Achieving nothing.

I like your optimism
Somehow I have a fealing we'll be the weakest team in the east for next 3-4 years if we stay with this roster.
The only thing that can put us out of Top10 in drafts is some massive tanking in the west.

 

[Rapala]

Well, this should be fun. Have at it.

Are Mods supposed to encourage fights?

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Reinbacher is not a sexy pick but i can easily imagine ourselves in 2029 looking back at this pick and being really happy with a big minute munching RHD who should be able to get 40-50 points while being a rock defensively.

Michkov would have been more exciting but its also a possibility that he doesnt ends up the superstar he was tagged for years.

I can understand the disappointment for the fans but i hate to see everyone goes rabid everytime something doesnt go their way. I just feel bad for the kid who was just drafted and seeing all the overly negative comment everywhere. I saw people calling him Bustbacher which is just dumb

I guess we should also be happy with the Kotkaniemi pick also and his 40/50 pts season while being responsible defensively.

 

[TheYardMachine]

It’s not about not taking Michkov. It’s about missing an opportunity to draft an elite offensive star in the best draft in 20 years. We unlikely have the chance to do it again because we’ll likely be a tweener team for the next few years and draft too low for it to matter. So if that opportunity is gone, what does this team become? Another playoff bubble team that repeats what we’ve had for the last 30 years. Achieving nothing.

Well thats pretty much about not taking Michkov. If we took Leonard, Dvorsky or Benson people would have been pissed about missing Michkov as well.

Michkov is still a very small player and things are never sure 100%. If he does become a 100 point player of course it stings but at the same time if we get playoffs success with Reinbacher and he becomes a great 1st pairing guy, it can be a whole different story.

Maybe Michkov become not so great while we have a 1st pairing guy and with hindsight we will be happy with the pick. Maybe that will ends up beingna complete disaster. I sont think he was a reach since he was sure to be a top 8 pick for a while now

 

[ZUKI]

Boy the shine sure has faded off him.

Feels like they just want to think they're smarter than everyone else. Big egos in that draft room.

i don't think so; not that they are smarter, but more that they are acknowledging a lot more about the players following all the time, the contacts, the meetings, the videos and everything they have done to do their evaluations.

To me , it's us that are naive to think that we are as much smarter than them

 

[TheYardMachine]

I guess we should also be happy with the Kotkaniemi pick also and his 40/50 pts season while being responsible defensively.

I dont see the connection between Kotkaniemi and Reinbacher at all. He looks like a much more promising player who checks all the boxes while KK was a long shot from the beginning. I wasnt thrilled with the pick yesterday since i was excited about the idea of a possible star forward as well.

But i can understand why they went with Reinbacher because player like him have huge value

 

[cave troll]

It is what it is. We drafted Reinbacher and we should all support the kid.
I would have not drafted him but he is a Hab now and that's it. End of the story.
Let' hope he becomes a great 1D.

 

[rahad]

I trust Sakic though. He's been around for a couple of years and has done a very good job so far. The way he dumped Newhook like an old rag for Colton and a russian Samuel Girard wanabe who walk like he got a stick deep in his *** should be a cause of concern for everyone including the most devout of our fans.

Maybe KH played Sakic on this one but i would definitely no bet on it. What i've seen of Newhook so far i'd say the guy looks a lot like a Ryder or Tatar (not the playstyle but kind of player). Some skills and flashes will probably do well in the reg if you give him TOI but total ghost in palyoffs so far.

I don't think there should be any comparison made with the Dach trade. Dach is a 3rd overall pick who was 1 year younger. He was dumped by a badly managed team who was dumping everything to tank and draft Bedard. He was also younger than Romanov and had lot more potential than Newhook. Most people liked the Dach trade from what i remember btw. Some guys said they'd rather take the pick but were not overly critical of it.

I wish i'm wrong. I wish Sakic is wrong. I wish it's going to be a stroke of genius for KH. But i would definitely not bet on it. Newhook will have a lot of things to prove this season. We need top 6 talents. I'm sorry for the believers but Josh Anderson doesn't cut it. He's a 3rd line guy at this point of his career. Newhook will have to be part of the solution. He's 22 now. He needs to show some progress in his game this year.

Dach is a unicorn. Where will you find a 6ft4 center? Dach has a good trade.

Boy the shine sure has faded off him.

Feels like they just want to think they're smarter than everyone else. Big egos in that draft room.

The ''honeymoon''is over lol.

 

[Rapala]

So who's fault is it for not picking michkov?

Is it Molson or Hugo? I'm betting Molson was the one that said no.

Some people have been saying that all along and coincidently they are the ones who aren't losing their shit.

 

[Albatros]

I guess we should also be happy with the Kotkaniemi pick also and his 40/50 pts season while being responsible defensively.

If you just left it to the court of public opinion they'd have ended up with a Tkachuk - Wright - Michkov line in a couple of years.

 

[rve24]

Yup, I'm the child arguing with everyone on this board. Anyway, I'm bored with you, good bye!

Apparently Lapointe's daughter has nothing better to do tonight lol. Shhhh we're not allowed to voice our opinions lol

Sure you are allowed to voice an opinion, and I support that but expect a response on a public forum
Obviously that 2nd part is something you don't want to deal with.

All good.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Won't he be eligible for the 2024 draft also?

Yup, but if he has an even better season Habs might have to use a higher pick to secure his rights. This way, Habs can sign him and have his rights be pushed 2 years, so have 5 years of control from now and not potentially use a higher pick

 

[Gustave]

I'm starting to imagine that in 2 years we'll have some 10 goalies in the preseason camp.

Among our usual 93 players in camp. After the second round of cuts from 106 players.

 

[rve24]

Some people have been saying that all along and coincidently they are the ones who aren't losing their shit.

Who knows, but haters going pick a target n blame them.
IF the info cones out we gotta discussion for sure
.....before that happens it's posters picking a target and bashing away.
Owner, GM, head scout, mail person.....who knows but the atttackers without info look most often stupid.....

 

[Ezpz]

If you just left it to the court of public opinion they'd have ended up with a Tkachuk - Wright - Michkov line in a couple of years.

Nobody here wanted Tkachuck. Zadina was far and away the poll winner.

 

[Kennerback]

It is what it is. We drafted Reinbacher and we should all support the kid.
I would have not drafted him but he is a Hab now and that's it. End of the story.
Let' hope he becomes a great 1D.

I agree.
I also think they need to smarten up in their drafting. They can’t even explain what exactly happened. While other teams look giddy, Lapointe and Bobrov look out of their depth and overtaken by events.
Some friendly fans kindly fill in their blanks to help them offer some coherent response to the public on their behalf.

 

[larek]

Reinbacher is not a sexy pick but i can easily imagine ourselves in 2029 looking back at this pick and being really happy with a big minute munching RHD who should be able to get 40-50 points while being a rock defensively.

Michkov would have been more exciting but its also a possibility that he doesnt ends up the superstar he was tagged for years.

I can understand the disappointment for the fans but i hate to see everyone goes rabid everytime something doesnt go their way. I just feel bad for the kid who was just drafted and seeing all the overly negative comment everywhere. I saw people calling him Bustbacher which is just dumb

You make it sound like Habs have had alot of chances to draft a potential super star at no 5