Raptors Discussion: REPORT: Raptors trade DeRozan, Poeltl, Protected 1st to Spurs for Leonard, Green

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You'll see a huge discussion on how good Kawhi is earlier in this thread. :laugh:

In a nutshell, this is an excellent trade for the Raps considering:

1) Massive updgrade from DD to Kawhi
2) No OG or Siakam
3) Heavily protected 1st

Completely off topic but I saw your username - You going to the radiohead concert this Thursday/Friday?
 
This x1000000.

I completely disagree. I'm not sure how this makes sense from a basketball standpoint at all. If Kawhi had even 2 years left I could be sold on that. Masai has a lot of work to do because as of right now this team isn't near good enough to be in a title or bust season. We don't know if Kawhi is even going to be as good as he was or if he wants to be here.

Of course we could resign him like George but its so unlikely at this point you have to look at it as if you know he's walking
 
Great deal. Love all the people who were bashing trading demar.. they ain’t talking now after the return

I am.. and I was ok with trading Demar. Check this space on day 1 of the season though, Masai has work to do and that work could change my view for sure
 
Would anyone take a chance on Blake Griffin if they could somehow get rid of Ibaka's contract?
 
I think its great that we didn't give up OG or Siakam. I also like the fact the pick is 1-20 protected in '19. The 2 seconds it converts to if not a 1st is irrelevant.

If Leonard comes and plays this is a great deal. There is the possibility that Leonard comes and plays then gets converted to want to stay in Toronto because of the love of city as Lowry converted when he was first traded from Houston. If you all remember Lowry almost didn't come here and hated the trade at the time of it. Players do tend to change their views on city once they play here. Look at Mark Buerhle when we acquired him from the Marlins. He too wasn't to fond of coming here when first traded. He changed his views.

Worst case we flip him for a bigger package to LA which wont be hard. Although I liked Poerlte, I think if we have to trade Leonard to LA we can get better younger pieces to come back in a trade then what we gave up to San Antonio.
 
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How about Khawai Leonard + Kyle Lowry to lakers in a blockbuster for Ingram + Kuzma and salary dumps (Frye + Deng)

If Khawai doesn't want to play in Toronto I was thinking the same. Ship Leonard + Lowry to Lakers in a blockbuster. Unfortunately I think you get one of Ingram or Kuzma not both. The other youngster that will need to be coming from the Lakers would be Ball. Something I wouldn't want at all, but if Lowry is in the deal they would need to take back Ball.
 
This will not end well for the Raps. May not start well either if Kawhi sulks about coming here.

Was this making a splash for the sake of making a splash?
 
this was posted here, or somewhere else, and i sent it to my buddy and lookin thru old msgs found it

"Take this how you may - my friend works for MLSE. Said the rumoured deal is
DD, poetl & OG for Kawhi & a first."

they were pretty close even if they were just talking out their butts
 
If Khawai doesn't want to play in Toronto I was thinking the same. Ship Leonard + Lowry to Lakers in a blockbuster. Unfortunately I think you get one of Ingram or Kuzma not both. The other youngster that will need to be coming from the Lakers would be Ball. Something I wouldn't want at all, but if Lowry is in the deal they would need to take back Ball.

I would take Ball in a heartbeat, just don’t tell his dad that he was traded.
 
My guess is Masai was able to negotiate the Spurs off of OG by adding Poeltl and the 1st.

It nearly fell apart several times because the Spurs had second thoughts before finally giving in.
 
this was posted here, or somewhere else, and i sent it to my buddy and lookin thru old msgs found it

"Take this how you may - my friend works for MLSE. Said the rumoured deal is
DD, poetl & OG for Kawhi & a first."

they were pretty close even if they were just talking out their butts

OG is not remotely equal to a protect 1st. It’s hard to describe how far off that value is.
 
I think the Green inclusion will help this team tremendously. His inclusion in the deal just made our second unit that much stronger.
 
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