Reid Boucher pleads guilty to sex crime involving 12 year old

[nowhereman]

Absolute miscarriage of justice. He should never be allowed near children ever again.

I'm constantly amazed at the lack of common sense in the legal system, especially when it comes to the more privileged amongst us. Just a few years back, some rich Vancouver kid killed somebody in an intersection, driving mommy and daddy's sports car at 180km. But the judge felt the kid might have attempted to stop and, since there was no video evidence to prove if he did or didn't, he got off. These are highly-educated, highly-experienced legal professionals and, yet, they make decisions that have you wondering how they even manage to dress themselves in the morning.

The culture of this sport is so f***ing gross.

I've played this sport since I was old enough to walk and I'm still trying to figure out what aspect of it's culture promotes the abuse of children.

If hockey does have a culture problem, what exactly do we address so this doesn't happen in the future?

 

[metalan2]

I don't think so. From the article:



Let's wait to see what happens there. I doubt the judge says "Nah, it's cool bra, go live your life".

They already said his plea deal agreement. It's nothing and it will be expunged from his record if he follows is probation.

 

[ItWasJustified]

Enablers of people who engage in sexual assault of anyone, let alone a minor, should face consequences.

How did Lamoriello enable Boucher's sexual assault if the act of sexual assault was committed before Lamoriello drafted Boucher?

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

The culture of this sport, whatever shortcomings it has, is not to sexually abuse underaged girls.

Oh obviously.

I just mean with everything that has come to light over the past 2 seasons, it’s getting harder to be a fan.

 

[bandwagonesque]

From the article. Helps people understand what went down.

Jesus, just awful. What a manipulative scumbag. I wish something would have been done sooner. Always sickens me when you hear about this 11 years later. Imagine waiting over a decade for your assaulter to be brought to justice and watching carve out a professional career (even a mediocre one).

Then there's this little cherry:



WTF is broken in the hockey community that seemingly basic actions on sexual assault can't be taken?

If no accusations were made, why did a meeting take place at all and why was he moved to another billet family following the meeting? This is just semantics.

 

[ohcomeonref]

Hopefully he gets the book absolutely thrown at him and while he's away he's given the type of mental health help he needs so he doesn't re-offend. This is honestly terrifying.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Hopefully he gets the book absolutely thrown at him and while he's away he's given the type of mental health help he needs so he doesn't re-offend. This is honestly terrifying.

Unless more victims come forward, I'm not sure he can get the book thrown at him at this point since he already pleaded guilty to a much lesser charge.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

If no accusations were made, why did a meeting take place at all and why was he moved to another billet family following the meeting? This is just semantics.

You have no clue what was or wasn’t said or what was talked about and kids get moved between billet houses all of the time over the smallest things so that means nothing. Not a single person from what I’ve seen has said USA hockey knew what happened. Just a bunch of people assuming they did because they moved him to a different billet house. If they did, shame on them and hopefully there’s consequences but people need to stop assuming and acting like they know what happened.

 

[Number8]

How did Lamoriello enable Boucher's sexual assault if the act of sexual assault was committed before Lamoriello drafted Boucher?

IF, Lamoriello knew about the incident and still drafted him, then that’s enabling.

I don’t know if he did, hence why I said they should check.

 

[vandymeer13]

Probably not unless they get treatment but the big problem here is that this type of behavior has been all too prevalent in sports for a long time.

Also I know nothing about billeting but having a 17 year old male hockey player and a 12 year old girl in the same house might be something that gets looked at?

Ideally having billets with older children than the player is a better situation right?

I don't know. I went to high school with a lot of kids on a ushl team, and one of the girls a grade below me was a billet family and she slept with a couple players. She would of been 16 and they were also in high school and all they did was move them out of the house when the parents found out. I think they did it twice, after the second time her parents wised up and they stopped hosting players and they started getting players from the baseball farm team where the players were older and a little more respectful. She was pretty good looking her parents were loaded and they must of really just liked the perks of getting season tickets and such. A player going after someone a year younger is one thing going after a pre teen-ager is really low, and he should get jail time.

 

[wetcoast]

I don't know. I went to high school with a lot of kids on a ushl team, and one of the girls a grade below me was a billet family and she slept with a couple players. She would of been 16 and they were also in high school and all they did was move them out of the house when the parents found out. I think they did it twice, after the second time her parents wised up and they stopped hosting players and they started getting players from the baseball farm team where the players were older and a little more respectful. She was pretty good looking her parents were loaded and they must of really just liked the perks of getting season tickets and such. A player going after someone a year younger is one thing going after a pre teen-ager is really low, and he should get jail time.

Can't disagree with you here all that much but I also don't know anything about the program that he is in.

Throwing guys in jail is great for punishment but does little for rehabilitation.

 

[Suntouchable13]

I'm constantly amazed at the lack of common sense in the legal system, especially when it comes to the more privileged amongst us. Just a few years back, some rich Vancouver kid killed somebody in an intersection, driving mommy and daddy's sports car at 180km. But the judge felt the kid might have attempted to stop and, since there was no video evidence to prove if he did or didn't, he got off. These are highly-educated, highly-experienced legal professionals and, yet, they make decisions that have you wondering how they even manage to dress themselves in the morning.


I've played this sport since I was old enough to walk and I'm still trying to figure out what aspect of it's culture promotes the abuse of children.

If hockey does have a culture problem, what exactly do we address so this doesn't happen in the future?

This has nothing to do with hockey culture. It just happened to be a hockey player who did the abuse. These things happen a lot, unfortunately, in all walks of life.

 

[Seras]

Dude gets off SCOTT FREE.

He blackmailed a 12 year old for sexual favors as a 17 year old. Even if he was young, it's hard to imagine him being much different now if he's never once tried to reconcile with the victim. What a shame.

Not to mention US hockey just sweeping it under the rug like it's no big deal.

Everyone in the world knows what he has done, and he will be judged solely on this action for the rest of his life.

Should have gotten more? Definitely, but everyone he ever interacts with will know what he has done till the day he dies.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

The culture of this sport is so f***ing gross.

This isn't the culture of hockey.

Unless you mean to protect people who shouldn't be protected, then I agree.

 

[Fatass]

12 year old girl! He was 17. This guy should be in prison.

 

[Leafs1991]

I feel empathy for both sides. I hate seeing lives ruined. How has his behavior been in the 10 years? What were his accomplishments? I hate saying "off with his head" before knowing everything.

You don't want to see the life of Reid Boucher ruined despite the fact that the woman he abused has had alcohol and drug abuse issues and other mental health issues since then?

So he can ruin one life but you don't want think him getting equal punishment is okay? How does that make sense.

I understand he was young. Sometimes young kids do stupid things and may not know, at the time, that what they're doing is truly wrong or understand how it may affect the victim.

He should be punished. The issue comes from the stigma afterwards. If he is punished and given rehabilitation or whats the other one? There's another R-word similar to rehab that helps criminals get better, and see how what he did was wrong, maybe he can make it back into society in a full manner without judgement from others.

 

[Suntouchable13]

You don't want to see the life of Reid Boucher ruined despite the fact that the woman he abused has had alcohol and drug abuse issues and other mental health issues since then?

So he can ruin one life but you don't want think him getting equal punishment is okay? How does that make sense.

I understand he was young. Sometimes young kids do stupid things and may not know, at the time, that what they're doing is truly wrong or understand how it may affect the victim.

He should be punished. The issue comes from the stigma afterwards. If he is punished and given rehabilitation or whats the other one? There's another R-word similar to rehab that helps criminals get better, and see how what he did was wrong, maybe he can make it back into society in a full manner without judgement from others.

I mean, I didn't know any of that. Sorry.

 

[Warden of the North]

Lock him up and throw away the key.

 

[Warden of the North]

I feel empathy for both sides. I hate seeing lives ruined. How has his behavior been in the 10 years? What were his accomplishments? I hate saying "off with his head" before knowing everything.

I'm sorry what?

What more do we need to know exactly here?

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

This isn't the culture of hockey.

Unless you mean to protect people who shouldn't be protected, then I agree.

I mean that essentially…yep.

 

[Leafs1991]

I mean, I didn't know any of that. Sorry.

It's usually what happens when someone is abused and aren't able to get help right away, and get treatment such as therapy.

 

[Suntouchable13]

I'm sorry what?

What more do we need to know exactly here?

Sorry, I meant about his background and what he has been up to in the past 10 years. People have mentioned he hasn't been a good person since. So that makes me feel a lot less empathy for him.

 

[Warden of the North]

Sorry, I meant about his background and what he has been up to in the past 10 years. People have mentioned he hasn't been a good person since. So that makes me feel a lot less empathy for him.

I don't care if he's been building orphanages for the last decade. He sexually assaulted a 12 year old.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Sorry, I meant about his background and what he has been up to in the past 10 years. People have mentioned he hasn't been a good person since. So that makes me feel a lot less empathy for him.

It’s not him you should be feeling empathy for anyways.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Sadly even if they threw the book at him, you just know he’d be in protective custody.

Which that whole thing…is another joke. Throw him in the general prison population and let the bikers and skinheads deal with him.