Red Dead Redemption 2 (October 2018)

[Pilky01]

You should watch a bit less TV

I was using the most extreme example. Time is incredibly important in all court cases, from criminal offences to highway traffic act violations. Charter rights are in the balance and you can't just tell the judge "sorry but I didn't have time to review disclosure because I had already clocked my 10 hours of work on other matters".

More than 200 cases tossed over delays since Supreme Court's Jordan decision | CBC News

 

[syz]

"It's a privilege to work 100 hour weeks at our company" is maybe the stupidest f***ing thing to come out of the games industry in uhhhhhever.

 

[Tonneau]

Yeah, I do. Deadlines do that to you no matter what industry. You have a product you're trying to get out of the door at date X - no one is doing 40 hour weeks right before.

Deadlines in the video game industry are completely arbitrary.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Deadlines in the video game industry are completely arbitrary.

They're not completely arbitrary if you're a stockholder...which is the problem.

 

[AllAbout813]

My crazy conspiracy theory is this 100 hour work week comment is to drum up more interest and intrigue in the game.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

They're not completely arbitrary if you're a stockholder...which is the problem.

The company should hire more employees and pay them better.

100 hour weeks should be illegal and doubly so - massive fines for every single instance of labour abuse. Terrible business practice.

 

[Pilky01]

Regardless of where the story has gone I was flabbergasted that anybody at Rockstar made that statement to begin with. "Crunch" and worker's rights in tech have been issues getting tons of attention lately what with the sudden closure of Tell Tale Games, so it just seemed incredibly tone deaf. Read the room Rockstar.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

It highlights the massive chasm between the haves and have nots. The haves love to work long hours because they make the decisions and get paid a crap ton, to them working 100 hour weeks is awesome.

 

[Gardner McKay]

It highlights the massive chasm between the haves and have nots. The haves love to work long hours because they make the decisions and get paid a crap ton, to them working 100 hour weeks is awesome.

Define a crap ton? I don't know any people, whether your looking at a 100k earners, 500k earners or even 7 figure earners, that love working 100 hours a week.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Define a crap ton? I don't know any people, whether your looking at a 100k earners, 500k earners or even 7 figure earners, that love working 100 hours a week.

500k bonus is on the low end of what I'd expect bigwigs at 2k/R* to make. Their 100 hour work week consists of meetings and making decisions while the programmers have to slog at computer screen doing menial work and praying they won't get laid off once work is finished.

So maybe "awesome" was a wee bit hyperbolic but my point was more about the fact that what they put and what they get out of insane work weeks is very different.

 

[Commander Clueless]

It highlights the massive chasm between the haves and have nots. The haves love to work long hours because they make the decisions and get paid a crap ton, to them working 100 hour weeks is awesome.

I don't think 100 hour weeks is ever awesome.

I've done 60-80 hour weeks (plus on call after hours support every other week) during crunch time, and that was bad enough.

Granted, the paycheques are amazing.


EDIT: Oh, you mean the guys at the top.

 

[Gardner McKay]

500k bonus is on the low end of what I'd expect bigwigs at 2k/R* to make. Their 100 hour work week consists of meetings and making decisions while the programmers have to slog at computer screen doing menial work and praying they won't get laid off once work is finished.

So maybe "awesome" was a wee bit hyperbolic but my point was more about the fact that what they put and what they get out of insane work weeks is very different.

That makes a lot more sense.

Although I'd be willing to bet most of those programmers are hourly employees. Be a nice way to rack up some serious overtime.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Do I need to preorder this game or will there be some left on the shelves day one?

I also still have an old Xbox one, should I pony up for a one X or PS4 or 5? Not sure what number their up to.

 

[AllAbout813]

6am to 11pm, Monday through Saturday is about a 100 hour work week. My God LOL. I have a hard to picturing any real serious work getting done from 7pm onward.. brain would be completely fried.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

That makes a lot more sense.

Although I'd be willing to bet most of those programmers are hourly employees. Be a nice way to rack up some serious overtime.

In terms of straight up compensation it should be decent but the stress of "you don't have an option" and "you have no idea if you will be employed after this game ships" cannot be fun whatsoever.

 

[Gardner McKay]

In terms of straight up compensation it should be decent but the stress of "you don't have an option" and "you have no idea if you will be employed after this game ships" cannot be fun whatsoever.

Yeah but you know what you're getting yourself into when you take contract roles (I am assuming the vast majority are contractors). Having worked in IT staffing for a few years taught me to see it in a different way. These guys love going from project to project. I actually had a much harder time recruiting for perm. IT positions because they didn't want to be stuck in one place to long.

6am to 11pm, Monday through Saturday is about a 100 hour work week. My God LOL. I have a hard to picturing any real serious work getting done from 7pm onward.. brain would be completely fried.

I would imagine that the amount of work that gets completed on a daily/weekly/monthly basis would be asymptotic. I know that when I do 60-70 hour weeks, I get more work done from 7 am - 11 am than I do from 11 am to 7 pm.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

So it looks like its gonna be about 150 GB download and install for digital on ps4. That is nuts.

 

[The Macho King]

Define a crap ton? I don't know any people, whether your looking at a 100k earners, 500k earners or even 7 figure earners, that love working 100 hours a week.

I've done a few. They've all made me want to jump out of a window. I always take a long ass vacation after those weeks.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

So it looks like its gonna be about 150 GB download and install for digital on ps4. That is nuts.

I believe this is because the way games are installed on PS4 is a bit weird and requires a lot more space than needed once the installation is done.

It's about 80 GB on Xbox and I was led to believe that, once the installation is done on PS4 it will be very similar. You just need the extra space available to start installing the first time.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I believe this is because the way games are installed on PS4 is a bit weird and requires a lot more space than needed once the installation is done.

It's about 80 GB on Xbox and I was led to believe that, once the installation is done on PS4 it will be very similar. You just need the extra space available to start installing the first time.

Yeah from what I read it is 99 GB base on ps4 without install space and 107 GB flat on xbox.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Do I need to preorder this game or will there be some left on the shelves day one?

I also still have an old Xbox one, should I pony up for a one X or PS4 or 5? Not sure what number their up to.

I'm sure there will be plenty left. It's a big game, but with the rise of digital downloads there tends to be plenty of physical copies left for everything.

If I'm wrong, I'll sincerely apologize.


Also, I think the OG Xbox should be fine, but you might want to wait for reviews before making a decision. I know ACG on YouTube is a reviewer who usually checks out performance on all consoles.

 

[crowi]

Can't wait to play poker minigame for ten hours+.

 

[CBJx614]

Just pre-ordered the special edition today before work and started downloading. The game itself was 83GB I believe without all the other stuff.

 

[HoseEmDown]

How would I know if I have enough space on my old Xbox one for this and should I start deleting things to make room? Is this thing gonna take like an hour to update before you can even play?

 

[Jovavic]

How would I know if I have enough space on my old Xbox one for this and should I start deleting things to make room? Is this thing gonna take like an hour to update before you can even play?

Go to the "games and apps" tab and in the lower left hand corner of the screen should be a percentage of how full the drive is. I haven't heard anything about a day one patch, but I doubt it'll be as big as the newest Call of duty was