Re-tooling For One More Run With This Core
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ORRFForever
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Good OP - you've obviously put a lot of thought / effort into it.
The problem : The EXACT same thread was done last year after the playoff loss so when does the "one more run (year)" actually mean "one more run (year)"?
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ORRFForever
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Yes. He is easily worth 750K - just from a leadership point of view.
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When is Dubas’s presser? Might as well just replay last year’s presser.
Lots of back patting and participation trophies about to be given out in the upcoming presser.
Lots of back patting and participation trophies about to be given out in the upcoming presser.
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Honestly, I think you move two of JT, Marner or Nylander. We are too much on the "high skill" spectrum (hence regular season warriors, playoff poopers). Sacrifice some (not all) of the "high skill" game for more "grind it til you find/heart game".
I am not saying get Colton Orrs, but more skilled-rugged players - I think we could use 2 -3 Nazem Kadris/Matthew Tkachuk-esque players (without the suspensions of course) and we would be alot better. JT would probably fit this style a lot better, but his cap hit is horrible.
I am not saying get Colton Orrs, but more skilled-rugged players - I think we could use 2 -3 Nazem Kadris/Matthew Tkachuk-esque players (without the suspensions of course) and we would be alot better. JT would probably fit this style a lot better, but his cap hit is horrible.
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You can't move JT so that leaves Marner and Nylander.
We don't want Matthew Tkachuk - he has been HORRID in the playoffs.
I don't disagree with you, but the problem I see, everytime someone makes this argument, is two fold...
1. There are a handful of those types of players in the entire league and teams are extremely unlikely to move them because they know how valuable they are to their own success.
2. Teams aren't very high on trading their most highly coveted pieces, for guys that another team is moving because they couldn't get it done.
The likelihood that Toronto actually gets an upgrade on one of the guys they would be moving, is very, very small. Of course, you entertain all offers and reach out in an attempt to better your roster, but we certainly shouldn't assume that just because we want to trade a good player, that the rare type of player we covet, will be available.
I'm open to the idea of a pivot towards a different core and strategy, but I need to hear realistic (and detailed if possible) moves that would actually improve the existing core and periphery roster, while adhering to cap compliance.
I'd love a team with the roster composition that some have suggested, but I need more details of the trades and signings that get us there.
Omar23
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Does muzzin just disappear
Remember the good old days when kerfoot for Kari was a win for dubass
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saffronleaf
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need to hear his game 7 2nd intermission speech first
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I want to bring him back to see him hit 1000 points and for the extra leadership. At $750,000 I don't want to end up with another Mike Amadio instead of Spezz.
Remember the Avs a few years ago where they traded away ROR, Duchense and others and retool. If we are going to make changes, it is really boom or bust. Like either go big or just make minor changes.
I think unless something dramatic happens, there will be minor changes and the only big change will be Trotz coming in to replace Keefe. Would be such irony if Keefe wins Coach of the Year and gets fired. Worked wonders for another team in Toronto before.
I think unless something dramatic happens, there will be minor changes and the only big change will be Trotz coming in to replace Keefe. Would be such irony if Keefe wins Coach of the Year and gets fired. Worked wonders for another team in Toronto before.
Time to move on. Let him finish his career in Ottawa, get his 1000 points and go into the sunset
Also time to move on from Simmonds experiment
2022, you can't skate, you can't play
Can't believe OP, said Tkachuk
Anyone who says Tkachuk would be good on this team has never watched a game of hockey that doesn't involve the Leafs. That's a clear case of thinking that gritty players = good in playoffs.
The Leafs should trade Nylander for a power forward to play on Tavares wing.
saffronleaf
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that would be terrible. sacrificing nylander for tavares. ew.
Install Teams and Zoom, get a team from Dailla Lama Academy and get them to calm the team down
Or call up Jacko during intermission if they need a tough mofo speech
We are too loyal to fault
Spezza and Simmonds takesaway growth opportunities for Robertsson, Steeves and Anderson.
They need opportunities to play and build their game
NHL experience is NHL experience. You can play 10 years in the minor and it won't help
I would really take a look at what JT can get in return. Seattle might want him to sell jersey and have something for their fans to cheer.
The more I think about it, the more I don’t see why he has NTC and no free agent would sign… if the Leafs win a Cup, it is all worth it.
JT is not a bad player, heck he was good and sometimes great but trading him and signing Kadri to replace him will probably still give 5mil cap space for Leafs to upgrade the 3rd line.
Masai traded DD and Dubas kept saying he wants to learn from Masai.
The more I think about it, the more I don’t see why he has NTC and no free agent would sign… if the Leafs win a Cup, it is all worth it.
JT is not a bad player, heck he was good and sometimes great but trading him and signing Kadri to replace him will probably still give 5mil cap space for Leafs to upgrade the 3rd line.
Masai traded DD and Dubas kept saying he wants to learn from Masai.
saffronleaf
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I was thinking a Tkachuk style player too, or a Wheeler when he was good, Nick Paul anyone 
The name doesn't matter to me, but whoever it is has to be willing to take the puck in between the dots on the rush and do something with it. This entire team is a perimeter team... doesn't work come playoff time.
I would not keep Engvall, I think there are better options out there for what we are going to have to pay him.
I don't mind keeping Kerfoot, I get everyones take on him, but I like his flexibility
As for the D, maybe Muzzin is LTIR'd? This might have been his last gas. I would keep Brodie, despite some misplays, overall he is good. Gio is a must keep imo... agree with the poster that the AAV is prob close to 3mil, any less is a win. I would like Holl to disappear.
The name doesn't matter to me, but whoever it is has to be willing to take the puck in between the dots on the rush and do something with it. This entire team is a perimeter team... doesn't work come playoff time.
I would not keep Engvall, I think there are better options out there for what we are going to have to pay him.
I don't mind keeping Kerfoot, I get everyones take on him, but I like his flexibility
As for the D, maybe Muzzin is LTIR'd? This might have been his last gas. I would keep Brodie, despite some misplays, overall he is good. Gio is a must keep imo... agree with the poster that the AAV is prob close to 3mil, any less is a win. I would like Holl to disappear.
